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Citrus-Fruit Apr 15, 2007 7:38 PM

Found them. These are a few minutes taken from a meeting in with residents and co last year.

Quote:

212-223 BROAD STREET (CUMBERLAND HOUSE) - REDEVELOPMENT OF SITE TO PROVDE A 40-STOREY BUILDING

Mike Taylor (Local Planning) reported that the Assistant Director for Planning Control suggested this item be withdrawn due to a lack of progress on the project proposal.The Chair person noted a number of local residents had concerns about the design.
It was one of two 40 storey towers for Broad Street talked about at the meeting from last year. Well according to the council anywho.

van heckler 1 Apr 15, 2007 7:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Citrus-Fruit (Post 2769277)
Its more difficult then I thought to stay away, there's so many things that you want to answer then realise you cant lol.

I've hardly posted at all in the last few weeks as I'm trying to get my average post count down to 2 per day. Don't ask me why, it's a bit of an obsession. But yer, on many occasions I've wanted to reply to certain posts like the one below, but have managed to resist...

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDX (Post 12563034)
Manchesters always been home to englands tallest building outside London, it is now, and always will be!

That stupid Manc had obviously forgot about Holloway Circus Tower.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Citrus-Fruit (Post 2769277)
You looking forward to the Cumberland house redevlopment? :notacrook:

Yer, we'll find out tomorrow won't we? I'm also excited about the 2 towers behind Auchinleck House as they should hopefully fill that little gap on the skyline between the Broad Street towers and the Fiveways towers.

Citrus-Fruit Apr 15, 2007 7:53 PM

Ahwell, thought you went a bit quiet. You've done well then. If you get to obsessed you end up doing zero work lol.

Auchineleck House could be anything yet. 2x 20 storey were reported almost 6 years ago but we havent heard anything since. Latest rumours apart from those were of a 28-30 storey. Not sure how much foundation that had but it seemed pretty resonable.

As you can see from my post above. Cumberland House could be a biggie. Not quite as big as 40 storeys. But certainly alot bigger then whats already there. I was thinking roughly 32 storeys. I'll be dissappointed if its anything less then 20 though. A good light, modern design however and ill be very happy. Its got to stay thin in my oppinion. Buildings down Broad Street are just far to fat. a tower like doon street in London would work a treat obviously alot smaller though.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images...Tower_pic2.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images...Tower_pic3.jpg

van heckler 1 Apr 15, 2007 8:19 PM

Not really a fan of Doon Street to be honest but I agree with it needing to be slender. As for Auchinleck House, Erebus has said...

Quote:

Dandara are planning to build two residential 15-20 storey towers behind Auchinleck House as part of the building redevelopment
About re-registering to ssc, can't you just use a different e-mail address?

Citrus-Fruit Apr 15, 2007 10:34 PM

Arr right, well in that case its obviously newer rumours. It certainly needs a revamp. Has done for years now. I know its suppose to be quite a big mixed use scheme and the site is'nt overly big. Think a 300 bed hotel was also on the cards.

Doon street is'nt fantastic, totally agree, but its a nice simple, light tower which makes its height known with a little bit more feminism about it. Something I think Birmingham needs with the big butch boys such as V and BST. :P

On the e-mail address problem. This is the only one im able to use on this computer. Hotmail etc has been deleted from now on due to uncountable virus being recieved.

A £899 computer and its slowed hugely within the last month. I should really get someone to look at it. :whip:

Its actually nice to speak to someone again. It was a bit quiet over here as you could probably tell :haha: but a bit of a refreshing change.

Citrus-Fruit Apr 15, 2007 10:41 PM

Over 9 years, 2 bannings is rather good I think Erebus ;)

Not to mention one was a tad unreasonable due to the uproar of the Danish Cartoons. :dead: I am rather argumentitive when frustrated however. Have to be in certain professions.

This is like my little zen room. So tranquil. :worship:

Citrus-Fruit Apr 16, 2007 10:04 AM

Arr yes Royal Blue - the man oblivious to contradiction.

Im not going to the Novatel today but I think somebody I know is Erebus. He always carries a camera aswell. I'll find out. :cheers:

Citrus-Fruit Jun 12, 2007 10:00 AM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/4...8d494ce0_o.jpg

van heckler 1 Jun 12, 2007 5:01 PM

Great panorama that.

jef Jun 17, 2007 4:53 PM

Doon Street is extremely poor proposed development.
Birmingham has the best with its Ballymore Snowhill residential tower. top notch.

rugbytommy Jul 25, 2007 10:24 AM

any updates on snow hill tower 1 and v tower?doon street proposal looks great.it's all happening in brum!

Citrus-Fruit Aug 6, 2007 7:53 PM

No. Doon Street is a London project. I was just giving an example of how I would want a specific site in Brum to turn out like :) Snow HIll is U/C with piling well underway, wont be long until concrete is being poured.

V - Tower has commenced enabling works ready for demolition.

P.S I've got banned again till August the 9th due to using the word Bollocks quite a few times in the wiggley thread. How astonishing. Its like a vendetta. I wonder who it was :haha: he really needs to grow up some and get a sense of humour as considering he singled out that 1 page out of 30 odd which subsequently was the only one in which I posted in, is quite ironic. Reasons. Languagem wasting mods time and trolling.

If im not mistaken I merely commented on the amount of bollocks being spoke in a thread which after only 3 days reached over 30 odd pages of people bickering and shouting off about each others cities. Its amazing how the likes of Wiggley survive who put zero input what so ever thats worthwhile into the forum, then a person who has an hatred for one of the mod's gets done over just because of the word bollocks. His either had nothing to do for a while or really is a bit of a loner with not much else to do.

Arr, the over controlling dickwods at SSC :worship:

Citrus-Fruit Aug 6, 2007 8:00 PM

Social Housing/Offices and Leisure
 
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1082/...2e0fc572_b.jpg

Citrus-Fruit Aug 6, 2007 8:02 PM

One of our 70's office towers.
 
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1042/...a7687ee6_b.jpg

Citrus-Fruit Aug 8, 2007 3:35 PM

Pano
 
Still a bit missing

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1311/...98387082_o.jpg

Citrus-Fruit Aug 8, 2007 3:41 PM

Cube site is all preped ready for piling

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1026/...0c49e321_b.jpg

Citrus-Fruit Oct 31, 2007 6:45 PM

Another big tower for Birmingham!
 
£150m tower hotel planned for Broad Street Oct 31 2007


By Jo Ind & Rhona Ganguly


A £150 million hotel boasting one of the tallest towers in the city is being planned for Birmingham's Broad Street.

The luxury development with a sky restaurant and conference facilities could be built between Sheepcote Street and the Novotel within the next four years.

Developers Regal Property Group have planning consent for a restaurant and 130 apartments on the site where the progressive synagogue once stood.

But now it is hoping to add to the original plans by including a luxury hotel, with a tower reaching the heights of Birmingham's tallest buildings.

At 122m tall, Beetham Tower, the Radisson SAS hotel near to New Street station, is currently the tallest building in the city. The proposed 50-storey high V tower - on the corner of Broad Street and Queensway - is expected to surpass this height but could be beaten by the Regal hotel.


Roger Holbeche, head of Regal in the UK, said: "We haven't made a formal planning application.


"Discussions are on-going, but they are very positive and are likely to lead to an early application."


The scheme includes conference facilities for up to 1,000 people to complement those of the International Convention Centre.


The Big Bite, a listed building formerly the Left Bank restaurant, would also be incorporated into the development.


If all goes to plan the luxury hotel with conference facilities and apartments above could be completed by 2011.


Mr Holbeche explained: "What we're trying to do is create something within the hotel which plugs the gap in the market.


"There will be ballroom facilities and conference facilities, maybe for up to 1,000 people. Naturally delegates would be stopping on site with the facilities on site.


"We are looking at building something absolutely top quality - one of the bigger buildings in the Birmingham arena.


"Whether it will be as tall as the tower of the proposed V building remains to be seen. It's not quite at a stage where we can say that."


John Lamb, spokesman for the Birmingham Chamber of Commerce, said: "I think any iconic building is welcome and obviously it brings the possibility of there being jobs - not only in construction but also in the running of the hotel."


He added if planning permission were to be granted for the hotel, it would relieve an existing lack of hotel accommodation in the city and could attract big events.


In addition, he said this could help attract Chinese Olympic athletes for the London 2012 Olympic Games.


"We already have the US track and field team and there is a big bid to get the Chinese delegation, which is enormous," he said.


"Sometimes you just can't get a hotel room in Birmingham. It will give the city a chance to attract big events."


Broad Street manager Mike Olley also welcomed the proposals.


He said: "We want exciting ideas for Birmingham - we want things that will get people investing the area.


"That can only be good for jobs locally."

Citrus-Fruit May 9, 2008 1:19 PM

Well might aswell give a quick update! Birmingham is buzzing at the moment. A few more 100m+ towers come out the closet and rumours of quite a few more.

One of the latest proposals which is just in design stage will be located next to twin 130m towers.

http://www.gallangroup.com/images/st_george_house2.jpg
Snow Hill's 44 storey scraper is up to 2 floors above the basements :banana:

wjfox2004 May 9, 2008 2:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Citrus-Fruit (Post 2997461)

Awesome. I'd love to see a 2012 version of that.

Citrus-Fruit May 9, 2008 2:43 PM

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Citrus-Fruit May 9, 2008 2:44 PM

the direct middle bit will be wall to wall off 100m+ towers. 1 u/c along with an 84m hotel tower. 152m V Building site work, approval of 118m, 130m, 130m towers and recently submitted 160m Natwest Tower. Others inlcude the Gallan proposal above aswell as St George Street, Regal, Post & Mail and HCT4.

Citrus-Fruit May 23, 2008 3:19 PM

New 21 storey tower, nothing to shout about, msot are planning to object to it due to the ridiculous size. Should be alot taller. Design is decent.

wazcaster May 23, 2008 3:34 PM

Birmingham is coming along pretty nicely. Its about time a city outside of London got some decent skyscrapers.

Edit: I just went back a page or two and I saw the shot of the Brummie skyline at night. Holy cr*p, I knew it was good, but heck, Birmingham's skyline is bloody awesome. Easily the best in Britain.

Citrus-Fruit Jun 5, 2008 8:07 AM

NEC has found a partner for its new multi-million pound casino. Help keep the centre attract new visitors.

PLANS to create a £90 million leisure complex and casino in the Midlands have come one step closer to reality after business chiefs selected a partner company.

Genting Stanley Ltd, based in Solihull, has been chosen as the partner of the development next to the National Exhibition Centre.

The proposals, which have been backed by Birmingham City Council, are yet to be given the green light by Solihull Council's planning comittee and the Government.

NEC Group bosses today said they hoped the latest announcement would "prove" the company’s dedication to the project.

The group also revealed details about the development, saying it would boast a spa, hotel, bars, restaurants and a casino, boosting the region’s economy by £2 billion a year and creating up to 29,000 jobs.

Paul Thandi, chief executive of the NEC Group, said: "It has always been our first priority to find the best possible partner for the NEC, for Solihull and for the wider West Midlands. We are confident that not only have we found a partner who shares our vision, we have also found an experienced team capable of bringing that vision to life.

" I look forward to working with the Genting Stanley team to demonstrate to Solihull Council that our proposal represents the strongest, most deliverable, exciting and appropriate opportunity for the local area in order that we can realise our strategy of providing a world class work, rest and play environment at the NEC."

Coun Mike Whitby, leader of Birmingham City Council, said: "This is an important opportunity for Birmingham and the West Midlands in helping to ensure the NEC is able to attract even more visitors into the region and to provide a world class attraction, all of which adds to our reputation."

Genting Stanley is the largest casino operator in the UK, with 40 sites. It is owned by Genting International, which has resorts and casinos around the world and is currently developing a £2.2 billion complex in Singapore which will be home to a range of attractions, including a Universal Studios theme park.

Peter Brooks, executive deputy chairman for Genting Stanley, said: "We are confident of being able to bring a wealth of experience and success to this project and we look forward to the opportunity of being a worthy partner to the NEC Group and demonstrating our strengths to the local government in this exciting endeavour."

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/bi...D1C828A796.jpg

skirwin1 Jun 5, 2008 9:57 AM

First post!!! :) WOW the brumy skyline is gona be really be quite decent in a few years time. some beautiful proposals going up. although i have to say that im not to keen on the cube. it looks kinda fady. n i feel this with allot of make's designs. there kinda look cheap and trendy, n i can just imagine them with plastic cladding and looking shit in a few years time. still their MnS headquarters in london and that st pauls information kiosk look awsome and these are the only buildings of there ive seen in the flesh. so lets hope the cube turns out well and proves me wrong.... btw great thread!

Citrus-Fruit Jun 5, 2008 11:08 AM

Welcome.

The Cube is a "love it or hate it" type of building. I think it'll suprise a few when it starts to reveal itself a bit more but you can understand the apprehension.

MAKE as an architectural firm have advanced from Will Alsop in a way to make thier designs more feasible, more attractive and more achievable. I hoep this works out for them.

-------------------------------

On other fronts.

Well, its only a matter of time. Birminghams got to the half hour stage of a marathon. Things begin to pick up and get more exciting, but theres plenty more to come. We never know what might happen. We could end up stopping for a piss, or we could go ahead and really become a city which si known, respected and highlighted around the globe.

We've got the opportunity. Just got to do it! :)

van heckler 1 Jun 7, 2008 3:43 PM

Thanks for doing the updates.

I see you've been banned again lol. It would be good to have you back. Are you gonna resign up or something?

Citrus-Fruit Jun 8, 2008 11:06 AM

Im struggling to find out why I was banned to be honest! Cant help to think it was Tubey being petty because I "slightly" disagreed with some of his comments about a certain topic.

Neil M's a bit bitchy aswell! Rants in Franco forum? What the hell is the kid on about! I dont even know how to say my name in French let alone hold a conversation.

Citrus-Fruit Jun 23, 2008 4:48 PM

Pictue Update
 
Just a few circling the SSC.

The best photographer's been out and about again and delivered as usual. Smileyface

The cusp off the city
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e106200812.jpg

The expanding skyline - roughly 2 miles long
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e106200811.jpg

Close up off the main core.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e106200813.jpg

Citrus-Fruit Jun 23, 2008 4:50 PM

Cra1g from a city centre perspective.

http://image.bayimg.com/jajlbaabn.jpg

T-Man Jul 3, 2008 12:42 PM

Since SSC has died again I'll put this here. It may be part of the reason that demolition for the V-Building hasn't started yet...

Quote:

In February 2000, following a call-in inquiry, planning permission was granted in
outline by the Secretary of State for the Arena Central scheme. It comprises the
redevelopment of the site bounded by Broad Street, Bridge Street, Holliday Street
and Suffolk Street Queensway and land south of Holliday Street. A mix of uses is
proposed and the scheme includes a new tower of up to 175 metres height. All
matters were reserved except for access.
A Section 106 agreement was signed at that time, which required the developers to provide the following:

1. A £5m contribution towards public transport improvements.

2. £1m to be paid upon the implementation of development on the site and two further payments of £2m to be paid on completion of the tower, the confirmation of the Transport and Works Act Order for Metro between Snow
Hill and the site or within five years (whichever occurs first).

3. £50,000 towards a feasibility study of public transport improvements.

4. A commitment to enter into a highways agreement to implement off-site highway works.

5. The provision and maintenance of shopmobility services.

6. The provision of public toilets.

7. Public art to a minimum of £100,000 in value.

8. A scheme of CCTV coverage.

9. A minimum requirement to construct residential floorspace.

The former NCP car park site south of Holliday Street has since been developed with a new residential building. In 2004, your Committee agreed an extension of time for the submission of reserved matters pursuant to the outline consent until February 2010, with the legal agreement essentially unaltered.
In October 2007, members approved the tower reserved matters phase (the V building) and agreed an updated masterplan for the scheme as a whole.

OBSERVATIONS:

The context for the payment of the planning obligation has changed since 2000. The understanding then, when the scheme was predominantly leisure based, was that the leisure and retail elements would be constructed first, followed by the tower. The developers have stated that the V-tower could now be the first building constructed (although this is now uncertain in that the proposed office building phase fronting Broad Street could now commence first).
In addition, the original masterplan envisaged the construction of new deep basement areas on the site. The updated masterplan approved in 2007 included the retention of existing basement parking areas and the adaptation of existing basement structures. The applicants are considering the possibility of remodelling existing underground structures as an advanced works contract in association with the office plots provided on the Broad Street frontage and to deliver the permanent arrangement for undercroft parking associated with that phase.
Lastly, since the Transport and Works Act powers were secured for Metro in 2005, the terms of the existing legal agreement require the developers to provide a single payment of £5m towards public transport improvements. (It has been agreed that this payment would continue towards the funding of the Gateway Project). This would, they state, have a significant impact on their cash flow arrangements compared to the originally anticipated staged payment process. They also state that there is a strong disincentive to undertake substructure works (which would currently trigger the payment of the transport contribution) so far in advance of securing the financing of the office construction or agreeing office tenants.
The developers have therefore requested that your committee give consideration to a supplemental agreement in respect of the following:
1. Amendments to the phasing of payment of the £5m public transport contribution. This would be on the basis that £1.5m would be payable upon implementation of the ‘first building’, then £2m and £1.5m respectively on implementation of the ‘second’ and ‘third’ substantive new buildings on the site. The first, second and third buildings would be defined as each having a minimum gross internal floor area of 10,000m2. The public transport payment would be index linked from the date of implementation of the substructure works.
2. The exclusion of the proposed substructure works from the definition of ‘implementation works’ in the existing agreement. This would allow those works to be completed without triggering the first payment (The ‘implementation works’ definition in the existing agreement allows demolition,
site clearance, site preparation works, setting out of services and the construction of access roads to be completed without triggering payment).
The request for these amendments is a response to changes in circumstances since the original grant of consent in 2000. Whilst it would result in the receipt of the first payment at a later stage than is required by the current agreement, the £5m overall requirement would still be secured. The revised payment trigger arrangements would also increase the likelihood of this major city centre regeneration project proceeding in the current circumstances.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Chief Legal Officer be authorised to prepare and seal a supplemental agreement to that attached to application number C/04238/90/OUT, as amended by application number C/04693/04/FUL to include the following:
1. Amendments to the phasing of the £5m public transport contribution as referred to above.
2. The exclusion of the proposed sub structure works from the definition of ‘implementation works’ in the existing agreement.

From here http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/democra...endaID%3d36657 It'll be decided on the 10th.

Citrus-Fruit Jul 4, 2008 12:43 PM

Interesting.

3 Contractors for the Library have also been shortlisted be decided at the end of the year.

T-Man Jul 4, 2008 2:10 PM

Yeah I saw that somewhere as well.
So when are you coming back sim?

Citrus-Fruit Jul 14, 2008 12:01 PM

Unfortunately, Tubeman has a immature vendetta against myself which will make it impossible to do so.

The fact he knows next to nothing about what the forum is set up for he needs his kicks from elsewhere and unfortunately for him and his ego he needs to inflict power to make himself feel better.

Citrus-Fruit Sep 24, 2008 9:30 AM

Lots of interesting titbits.

Some old and some new.

* 30 storey tower by Kuwaiti investors in Birminghams Digbeth area.

* Deutsche Bank are due to announce a major investment and elnlargement in city.

* Concept designs have been released by Dutch practice Mecanno for the citys new Library which will be the largest public library in Europe. Lots of glass boxes topped onto one another.

* New designs have been released by FOA for Birmingham New Street Station.

* Snow Hill towers have been re-phased. Current development is sterile and they will concentrate on Snowhill Two which is a 75m office block to help bring in revenue.

* Re-commencement wont start till Easter 2009 at the earliest.

* Colmore Row (165m) tower has been put forward for approval although distinct changes will take place including the lowering of light mast.

* NEC Arena 7th largest in Europe has struck a new sponsor deal and is now known as the LG arena.

* V Tower has been delayed indefinately.

* VTP 200 is being re-designed. (Although my sources state any planning wont happen for a while as funding is sparse)

* ISIS have delayed two schemes in Birmingham. Including one of the largest in Eastside.

* Cube is progressing well although trouble might not be to far away.

* All in all ... not good times for major residential developments in the city as is the case for all cities across the UK due to the credit crunch.

Citrus-Fruit Oct 12, 2008 6:42 PM

Snippets of Regal Tower - Broad Street
 
The first images of Regals Mixed Use Tower along Broad Street have been found, it comes on strong indications from the council of a major investment along the golden mile with a multi-billion pound make over of the area.

Schemes include numerous high-rises, although with the current economic climate its difficult to determine what will happen with alot of them. A review of Cumberland House has also been indicated.

Anyway. Here are the first renders. They plan to start 2009 with completion before the 2012 Olympics. Its rumoured Regal will announce Hilton as the flagship hotel chain. There will be a 54th floor skybar.

http://s244306752.websitehome.co.uk/...ight_image.jpg
Quote:

A £150 million hotel boasting one of the tallest towers in the city is being planned for Birmingham's Broad Street.

The luxury development with a sky restaurant and conference facilities could be built between Sheepcote Street and the Novotel within the next four years.

Developers Regal Property Group have planning consent for a restaurant and 130 apartments on the site where the progressive synagogue once stood.

But now it is hoping to add to the original plans by including a luxury hotel, with a tower reaching the heights of Birmingham's tallest buildings.

At 122m tall, Beetham Tower, the Radisson SAS hotel near to New Street station, is currently the tallest building in the city. The proposed 50-storey high V tower - on the corner of Broad Street and Queensway - is expected to surpass this height but could be beaten by the Regal hotel.

Roger Holbeche, head of Regal in the UK, said: "We haven't made a formal planning application.

"Discussions are on-going, but they are very positive and are likely to lead to an early application."

The scheme includes conference facilities for up to 1,000 people to complement those of the International Convention Centre.

The Big Bite, a listed building formerly the Left Bank restaurant, would also be incorporated into the development.

If all goes to plan the luxury hotel with conference facilities and apartments above could be completed by 2011.

Mr Holbeche explained: "What we're trying to do is create something within the hotel which plugs the gap in the market.

"There will be ballroom facilities and conference facilities, maybe for up to 1,000 people. Naturally delegates would be stopping on site with the facilities on site.

"We are looking at building something absolutely top quality - one of the bigger buildings in the Birmingham arena.

"Whether it will be as tall as the tower of the proposed V building remains to be seen. It's not quite at a stage where we can say that."

John Lamb, spokesman for the Birmingham Chamber of Commerce, said: "I think any iconic building is welcome and obviously it brings the possibility of there being jobs - not only in construction but also in the running of the hotel."

He added if planning permission were to be granted for the hotel, it would relieve an existing lack of hotel accommodation in the city and could attract big events.

In addition, he said this could help attract Chinese Olympic athletes for the London 2012 Olympic Games.

"We already have the US track and field team and there is a big bid to get the Chinese delegation, which is enormous," he said.

"Sometimes you just can't get a hotel room in Birmingham. It will give the city a chance to attract big events."

Broad Street manager Mike Olley also welcomed the proposals.

He said: "We want exciting ideas for Birmingham - we want things that will get people investing the area.

"That can only be good for jobs locally."

hotwheels Jun 8, 2016 8:40 PM

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Quote:

The heart of Birmingham is pulsating with a new urban district that is pumping 1.2 million square feet of mixed-use development into a 9.2-acre site. The transformative project by Arena Central Developments Limited, a joint venture between Miller Developments and Pro Vinci Asset Management, includes an extensive landscaped public realm. http://cdn.skyrisecities.com/sites/d...350-73457.jpeg

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http://skyrisecities.com/news/2017/0...-big-city-plan


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