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I would think there's someone at some of these papers, the U-T, NC Times, Business Journal, etc that we could email and push them to do a little investigation on the height limit matter, find out whether the city is working on it, who's really holding back, are developers even interested in going higher than 500', etc. Would make for an interesting story!
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The Navy and the Marines can stay and should stay. The naval facilities (save thier ugly ones downtown, and luckily they are being replaced) are fine where they are and I love seeing the huge ships in the bay. But Miramar is just such a bad spot for the Marine Corps. I support them, but not where the base is.
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Does anyone have updated pics of Electra, Aria, etc. that can be posted on the Projects forum?
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Ok here is a more reasonable solution for the Marine Corps to relocate the operations that they perform at Miramar. The March Air Force Reserve (Station/Whatever).... That location is still fairly islolated along the I 15 corridor (or is it 215 always get them confused)
Anyway that airstation is stagnating and in a fairly isolated spot compared to Miramar. Why not shift the operations that are done at Miramar to March??? It seems perfectly reasonable to me. It is still very close to Pendelton. I know that the military always says that they have "symetry" between Miramar and Pendelton, this can be maintained if operations are shifted to March. Like you all have said we can all "get along" if we compromise, Marines MOVE ON to March and let San Diego grow and prosper. This is also a strategic metro area along the Pacific Rim and Southern California needs another Mega Airport to handle future growth. Imagine LAX and San Diego both pumping out massive amounts of flights, worries will go away and the region can thrive! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :cheers: |
I think it's the 215, but anyways...
That is a good idea! I like it. You are a good thinker. Now if we only had more power.:( |
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http://www.san.org/airport_authority...st_summary.asp Maybe someone can find 04, 05 and 06 numbers to see if the pattern has changed. But it looks pretty flat to me... Commercial Airlines Air Air Percent Year Carrier Taxi Subtotal Civil Military Total Change 1980 65,235 28,857 94,092 48,978 3,621 146,691 - 1981 59,497 35,320 94,817 40,200 2,329 137,346 -6.4% 1982 65,447 32,437 97,884 32,985 2,822 133,691 -2.7% 1983 73,531 32,773 106,304 32,778 2,838 141,920 6.2% 1984 88,726 25,417 114,143 34,490 2,899 151,532 6.8% 1985 101,544 23,858 125,402 33,200 3,810 162,412 7.2% 1986 116,677 20,253 136,930 29,278 3,887 170,095 4.7% 1987 127,723 41,027 168,750 25,336 4,097 198,183 16.5% 1988 134,095 41,337 175,432 24,873 4,283 204,588 3.2% 1989 133,060 46,484 179,544 23,525 4,319 207,388 1.4% 1990 132,561 51,984 184,545 23,238 4,531 212,314 2.4% 1991 132,381 49,616 181,997 20,934 4,276 207,207 -2.4% 1992 130,892 54,273 185,165 22,378 5,479 213,022 2.8% 1993 137,879 45,628 183,507 19,860 5,239 208,606 -2.1% 1994 141,968 51,697 193,665 21,536 5,845 221,046 6.0% 1995 138,728 64,198 202,926 19,027 5,041 226,994 2.7% 1996 145,275 57,498 202,773 16,779 6,511 226,063 -0.4% 1997 150,847 54,770 205,617 16,034 2,817 224,468 -0.7% 1998 148,472 56,413 204,885 16,114 2,258 223,257 -0.5% 1999 148,173 56,298 204,471 16,847 1,036 222,354 -0.4% 2000 153,314 37,097 190,411 15,708 770 206,889 -7.0% 2001 148,280 43,808 192,088 13,396 1,504 206,988 0.0% 2002 144,737 45,346 190,083 15,044 1,253 206,380 -0.3% 2003 141,702 45,797 187,499 14,535 1,251 203,285 -1.5% Average Annual Growth 1980-1990 7.3% 6.1% 7.0% -7.2% 2.3% 3.8% 1990-2002 0.7% -1.1% 0.2% -3.6% -10.2% -0.2% 1980-2002 3.7% 2.1% 3.2% -5.2% -4.7% 1.6% |
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^Hear hear.
And the article on railroads, that definitely is the future but in America it is harder to pull off, but someday... In the meantime, air travel is up across the board since 9/11 and it will continue to grow, and San Diego is on the outside looking in, until a new multirunway airport is built. |
Three topics.....
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Does anyone know what the time for the Fully realized harbor Front Design and why is was not added to the North Embarcadero Visionary Plan that was past a year or two ago? I know it was expensive but it should of been atleast added to the general plan..... http://www.sasaki.com/what/portfolio...egion=4&page=2 Topic 2: I have heard of this proposal about a ChinaTown district in Downtown San Diego. I don't know if its in the design stage and just fell off the radar for CCDC, but I did find a link a developer was using. http://www.fehlmanlabarre.com/#projects Topic 3: Is this a backdoor plan if San Diego does not get its airport? A high speed rail system to LA? The guess there are several proposals on the table here one.... http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/ and 01.30.2007 Sasaki On Board as Part of LA-to-San Diego Rail Project Sasaki Associates is part of a multi-disciplinary team of designers and engineers, led by HNTB Corporation, that was recently chosen to provide design services for the Los Angeles-to-San Diego portion of the California High Speed Rail Project. Sasaki's San Francisco office will provide urban design, station area planning and architectural design services for the team. For more information on this project visit: http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov |
NIMBYS killed Brown Field. A real pity there.
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I always really loved that waterfront proposal of theirs. Too bad it never happened.
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I really wish downtown had a stronger Chinese influence and a nice little Chinatown. :(
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^^ Thanks for posting! It won't be long until Sapphire, Bayside and Breeza make it out of the ground.
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It seems like Rancho Penasquitos is San Diego's Chinatown! :jester:
There are more chinese sings there than anywhere else in the city. |
More than Kearny Mesa or Manila Mesa?
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Possibly? I was only making a joke of course and is in no way a fact. :)
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With that said, CaHSR will not save San Diego. At best, it will decrease demand for in-state air-travel by shifting it to trains. I don't know.... nor anybody probably knows... is that by how much will it decrease demand at Lindbergh and push back the theoritical year that it supposedly reaches capacity. |
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LA had considerable Italian heritage some 100 yrs ago, but you don't see a little italy now for a good reason - all those italians either assimilated, or dispersed, and italian immigration tapered off. |
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