Man, you guys have a heck of a boom. I'm amazed at how many condo buildings are going up. That will make for a more lively city instead of just commuters. Any idea of the percentages of construction for office to retail to residential?
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^i wish
but thank you for the attention;) |
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^i see...
then yes, i agree;) |
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damn the Padres game is so good tonight!
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whens opening night down here? the 6th?
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Friday (April 6th yep:))
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Sorry, but I think there is a lot more than it sounds like you might be giving credit for. Think of Sorrento Valley (now including the new Qualcomm complex...which is a fancy green building too), UTC, University Heights, Mission Valley and the Balboa Park/163 Corridor. Coronado even has condo towers by the Hotel Del. Del Mar Heights has had success building mid-rise offices and I wouldn't be suprised to see a highrise or two there in the not too distant future. |
Just wanted to throw it out there^^^
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Anyone else think they're addicted to SSP?
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^dude, i just had 500 posts docked for whore posting, yes i am addicted;)
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If we can develop a 12-Step program for SSP, we'll be rich:upload_71700:
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id say the majority of those are mid-rises...few high rises. nothing in downtown is even over 500 feet...so outside? im guessing 300 tops, if that.
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I have to whore post sometimes to keep the individual project threads alive. They always need help. For whatever reason, we don't have a lot of San Diego SSP members. I think if there was snow in San Diego we'd see more of that type of thing.
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La Jolla is pushing 400 feet...
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Seriously though, I bet Buffalo has more regular members than San Diego...
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What the hell has happened in here? How did you all get so chatty in just a couple of days? I guess the only way to keep up-to-date in here is to check in everyday...not necessarily a bad thing :)
Here's an interesting article from this week's SD Business Journal regarding the 7th & Market proposal. This condo/apartment/hotel will have 638 units, so chances are favorable for a fairly tall tower. I believe this project is the empty lot in between The Mark and Alta. Redevelopment Arm OKs Proposal for Historic Block on Market Street African American District Was Once Called Harlem of the West By JESSICA LONG San Diego Business Journal Staff A downtown city block once slated to become little more than another reinforced-concrete parking lot may soon host apartments, condos, a hotel and a police substation, as well as public art and retail space. A committee of the Centre City Development Corp. voted March 26 to accept a proposal by the joint venture of Related/City Link Investment to develop the 55,000-square-foot block bounded by Seventh Avenue on the west, Market Street on the north, Eighth Avenue on the east and Island Avenue on the south. Related LP is based in New York, while City Link Investment Corp. is based in downtown San Diego. On March 28, the full CCDC board approved an exclusive negotiation agreement with Related/City Link that paves the way for the two to discuss finances. In Related/City Link’s proposal, total development costs for developing the block are listed at $298 million. “It’s envisioned to be a fairly extensive mixed-use project,” said John Collum, senior project manager with the Centre City Development Corp., the city’s planning and redevelopment agency that oversees downtown redevelopment projects. CCDC owns the block, excluding a privately owned, 56-room hotel designated a historic landmark because of its relationship with African Americans who visited the city. The venerable Clermont Hotel, once advertised as “a hotel for colored people,” was built in 1887. The history of the property is expected to play a big role in the redevelopment project, which may include public art or some other kind of homage to an area dubbed the Harlem of the West in the 1920s. In its proposal to CCDC, Related/City Link proposed a project that was roughly 1 percent police storefront and cultural space, 2 percent retail/restaurant, 21 percent condos, 35 percent hotel and 41 percent apartments. The proposed hotel would feature 220 rooms, according to city documents that have been filed with CCDC. The overall project would include 418 apartments and condos, with the average size being 753 square feet. About 20 percent of the units would be considered affordable housing, and offered to residents with lower incomes. Representatives for Related/City Link were unavailable to give details of their proposal. According to Derek Danziger, communications director for CCDC, the process of selecting a developer for Seventh and Market began several months ago. Related/City Link was among seven original proposal submitters, a pool that was later whittled to three, then two and, finally, just one last week. “Basically, our board said we had a much greater opportunity to do more,” Danziger said. “Parking will still be an essential element, but now there’s room to develop other things.” |
I put myself on the Google Map yesterday...that's when you know you're in trouble
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yo SD urban...im gunna post your pics from SSC aight?
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That's great news SD Urban! That site was originally going to be a parking structure. I think it's funny that the project will include a police substation. The police headquarters is about 6 blocks away...lol
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a pic of that site that i took...not extensive... http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...2007-SD042.jpg Padre's Pizza is across the street... http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...2007-SD041.jpg |
Is Padre's pizza good? I make it down to SD once a month?
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its just another pizza place...its not bad though...i like it cuz it involves "Padres"...ahhh:tup:
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As much as we all get excited about the big projects, it's the small, individual businesses that help keep the streets lively.
Here's some stuff I discovered in East Village that's helping to transform the neighborhood- A sneak peak at the restaurant/live music venue/bowling alley under construction now http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7749.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...IMG_7748-1.jpg And the new coffeehouse around the corner from the future bowling alley that's getting ready to open soon. According to the owners working inside, they will be open every night till midnight. What a great asset this will be to the area. For those of you familiar with PB, Zanzibar Coffee is opening up a couple of blocks away. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7744.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7743.jpg The cool thing about this place are the jumbo coffee roasters in the glass room in back of this pic. It's similar to the large vats that you see in the local microbreweries. This place will also have a second story mezzinine. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7742.jpg The owners hard at work http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7741.jpg |
i cant wait for that bowling alley;)
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do you know when completion is expected for the bowling alley?
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i cant believe they are building a zanzibar downtown! i love that place! and a bowling alley! holy crap!
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Doesn't Zanzibar in PB have music and events?
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^^ thanks for all the updates yall...every time i hear something like this, i get even more pumped about downtown san diego being one of the best urban areas in the country. |
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Returning bowling to Downtown, Dan Hurd, Michael Merrigan and Richard Synott, owners of the Gaslamp Tavern at Fifth Avenue and E Street, will open the East Village Tavern and Bowling Alley at 930 Market St. in June. The 9,124-square-foot hotspot will include Downtown’s only bowling alley — the six lanes alone will occupy 4,000 square feet — plus an expanded bar and kitchen area. “We haven’t been able to do the menu we wanted (at the 2,200-square-foot Gaslamp) so this extra space will allow us to do that,” Hurd says. Hungry bowlers can look forward to grilled paninis, pastas and several entrée salads in addition to a food and beverage menu similar to the Gaslamp Tavern’s. This isn’t Downtown’s first bowling alley — at least three have rolled through 92101 at various times, including Academy Bowl, Sunshine Alley and Tower Bowl, which was located where One America Plaza now towers. Quote:
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Here's Downtown San Diego's original bowling alley circa 1920s. The view is facing East on Broadway. As mentioned above, this Bowling alley was sitting where One America Plaza now stands. http://www.sdera.org/images/photos/t...oadway23_m.jpg Quote:
WHAT?! Man, I haven't been there in two months and look what happens. Apparently, they couldn't stay open without my patronage. Fucking starbucks. I blame them. That sucks because Bassam has been there FOREVER!!! Well, I guess on the bright side, Bassam will be replaced with a couple new, unique coffee houses that will hopefully bring the same flavor to DTSD that Bassam did for so many years. |
thanks SD urban
Andrew, that picture is mind-blowing!!! wow...the changes... |
Why does San Diego County have so few Highrises??
I totally agree with eburress: Look at metro areas like Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Minneapolis, even suburban areas of Orange County and LA !! They all have way more highrises spread out all over the metro area than SD County.
Shit Oxnard has a couple of highrises. How come north of UTC you find NOTHING. (The shit off Del Mar Heights doesn't count as highrises in my book) Carlsbad/Oceanside/Escondido/Vista etc. all fairly large cities with lots of office space but it is all in low slung campus style buildings. Kearny Mesa/El Cajon/Chula Vista NO highrises I just don't get it. The other metros I mentioned above are flat with no hills or oceans to restrict them so you would think they wouldn't have to build vertical. Is it because they have more fortune 500's?? Maybe it is because we are so close to the megalopolis of LA that they suck up all the kinds of companies that locate in highrises. :shrug: |
^my opinion...NIMBYs!! :hell:
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Well it could be NIMBYs or it could be local governments. For example take Plano Texas (Metro Dallas) or Irving, Arlington etc. Then look at Carlsbad, Escondido, Oceanside, and Chula Vista. Do they have different zoning or restrictions on highrises built into their local charters or laws that the Texas cities don't??
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i think its partly because of the types of industry in san diego and requirements in office space
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^^ There is anti-development sentiment throughout the SD metro area, but I think the root problem is that there just aren't that many companies (a.k.a. demand) for commercial development. Downtown...North County...Mission Valley...anywhere.
If you look at any big metro like Dallas, Atlanta, Houston, Denver, there are numerous skyscraper districts. Looking at Dallas specifically (because that's the place I am most familiar with), the areas of Las Colinas, Uptown, Park Central, North Central Expressway, Addison, Richardson, Frisco, Preston Center, North Irving, Galleria (just to name a few) all have at least as much commerical space as San Diego's Sorrento Valley/UTC area. |
Still this is a metro area of 3.5 million people (including Temecula/Murrieta) so those people must work for some *company* So look at Denver it is a smaller metro area then SD. Is it because they have more big corporate employers like oil companies??
Is the San Diego economy more small business and tourist based versus large corporate economies that drive Dallas, Atlanta, Houston, etc... The question is this: are there certain kinds of companies that are much more likely to be housed in vertical office space?? eburress: do you have photos of those different districts in Dallas?? |
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Yes, we all know that certain kinds of companies are more likely to be housed in vertical office space, but it's not like San Diego is overflowing with low-rise office developments either...certainly not like a San Jose, Houston, or Dallas. There's not as much office space of any kind here. |
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BTW, our airport (or the lack thereof) is one of the things that will continue to limit the amount of corporate expansion here in San Diego. |
^^^ Ok so then where does everyone work eburress??? I don't get it how can Denver which has far less people in its metro area have more "office space" then metro San Diego? Are you saying far more people work in hotels,restaurants, mom and pops, and funky strip malls here in SD then they do in Denver. Or is it that there are more military jobs and retirees here in San Diego?
Do you get what I'm saying. People need to have a job and usually that is in an *office*. |
^all of our offices are in 3-6 story business parks smack dab in the middle of all the sprawl...its digusting...
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