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TowerSpotter Nov 19, 2013 5:02 AM

New Design for 5 Allen Center:

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/e7/...8c0529706b.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/3c/...aa2f56086e.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/8d/...42905ba7e1.jpg

http://www.odell.com/portfolio/categ...-the-boards-2/

Urbannizer Nov 19, 2013 5:50 AM

The link above also has renderings for the Allen Center redevelopment:

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/3c/...6a7f7c8371.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/2d/...3d30749aa4.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/80/...91e70ce6ea.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/5c/...2cf41454f6.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/dc/...82201db1fa.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/91/...d84eb8b6e8.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/dd/...e0c11a535f.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/f6/...fefc252269.jpg

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/1f/...ffe8f65488.jpg

econik Nov 19, 2013 7:00 AM

Dang, I really want to like it but there's something very dull about it. Its basically a rectangle with a sash. However, if the sash were to light up at night I wouldn't mind its boring day look. sigh*o*nara!

N90 Nov 19, 2013 8:22 AM

By counting up floors, I got 18 + the two from the base. So 20. They've really scaled this one back from 50 floors to get off the ground. My guess is they reconcepted the design after nearly 6 years to fit a more aesthetical package to try to lure more tenants.

N90 Nov 19, 2013 8:55 AM

Let's see. Five Allen Center has been 20% preleased for some years now and that was with their original floor plan of 50 floors. This one is 20 + floors, so around half the size and likely around half the office space. The preleased commitment should be around 40% and up now, just over night without inking anyone new through both the redesign and scaling back.

This puppy just needs 50% before it starts moving dirt. That should be within the next year and a half.

toxteth o'grady Nov 19, 2013 2:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TowerSpotter (Post 6344340)

That building just keeps getting shorter and shorter. The render's not even a thirty-story structure.

toxteth o'grady Nov 19, 2013 2:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N90 (Post 6344462)
This puppy just needs 50% before it starts moving dirt. That should be within the next year and a half.

If they just drop five more floors...:koko:

TowerSpotter Nov 19, 2013 7:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6344385)
The link above also has renderings for the Allen Center redevelopment:

http://www.odell.com/media/cache/5c/...2cf41454f6.jpg

I really like the new color on 3 Allen Center.

toxteth o'grady Nov 19, 2013 9:23 PM

If I'm not mistaken, the new color is the same as the old color.

TowerSpotter Nov 19, 2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6345272)
If I'm not mistaken, the new color is the same as the old color.

The other one is dark brown and this one is light brown. Also I think this might be a new material.

cloud713 Nov 20, 2013 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TowerSpotter (Post 6345428)
The other one is dark brown and this one is light brown. Also I think this might be a new material.

you sure? seems like it might just be the rendering and its actually the same facade. i cant see them changing the whole facade just for a slight variation most people wouldnt even notice.

what is the building to the left of 3AC? the Doubletree? i dont recognize the facade and was wondering at first if it was the new facade for 1AC but i then i saw 1AC in its current state in other renderings.

TowerSpotter Nov 20, 2013 1:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cloud713 (Post 6345579)
you sure? seems like it might just be the rendering and its actually the same facade. i cant see them changing the whole facade just for a slight variation most people wouldnt even notice.

what is the building to the left of 3AC? the Doubletree? i dont recognize the facade and was wondering at first if it was the new facade for 1AC but i then i saw 1AC in its current state in other renderings.

Well from what the article says...It will be getting renovated both from the exterior and interior. Maybe reclading, the texture looks different in the rendering.

N90 Nov 20, 2013 1:57 AM

Here's my take on the direction of Houston's skyline. If Five Allen Center can integrate LED lights on its outer band's facade for night, then I'll agree with it being a useful addition to the skyline. Meanwhile 609 Main, the Marriott Marquis, 6 Houston Center, and International Tower, Houston's skylines brighter days are ahead of it. Literally.

Oh and the blue and purple lights are pretty rad.

Wattleigh Nov 20, 2013 8:39 AM

HAIF member 'Mab' found the updated leasing plan for the GreenStreet complex downtown, currently under renovation.

In addition to a half-dozen new restaurants and a fitness center, a 25-story 250 room hotel is planned for the corner facing Dallas and Fannin.

toxteth o'grady Nov 20, 2013 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TowerSpotter (Post 6345652)
Well from what the article says...It will be getting renovated both from the exterior and interior. Maybe reclading, the texture looks different in the rendering.

I think the biggest exterior change is the banner lettering at ground level. Which I'm not sure I'm excited about; that seems more appropriate to warehouses.

toxteth o'grady Nov 20, 2013 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wattleigh (Post 6346011)
HAIF member 'Mab' found the updated leasing plan for the GreenStreet complex downtown, currently under renovation.

In addition to a half-dozen new restaurants and a fitness center, a 25-story 250 room hotel is planned for the corner facing Dallas and Fannin.

It would be nice to include apartments or condos in the complex. It would complement the retail/office component.

N90 Nov 20, 2013 11:33 PM

Wow so much stuff going on in Houston and no one's posting.

Looks like Downtown Houston's on pace to keep shattering all previous records:
Quote:

By Urbannizer on HAIF:

10-Story, 302 unit building planned by Allied Orion Group. 2017 Completion. Listed as #24, but the location is #25 on the map.
Quote:

By Urbannizer on HAIF:

28-Story, 380 unit with commercial on ground floor. Construction starts may 2014. It's listed on the newest downtown development map. #17

http://downtownhouston.org/site_medi...cts_8.5x11.pdf
Now for some insane updates on the status of Uptown Houston:
Quote:

By Bisnow

Uptown Houston District CEO John Breeding (speaking to our 350 attendees) says development is booming in his submarket across all property types. Residential is the bulk of construction, with over 20 multifamily high-rises in the works. There are eight hotels in discussion that would add 2,000 rooms, with four planning to break ground next year. There's 2M SF of office development in the pipeline. TxDOT is reconstructing the 59/610 interchange starting in 2017 and ending 2021, and John says his district's $190M mass transit plan is more than just transportation improvement; it'll remake Uptown. Fun fact: Uptown is the 14th-largest business district in the country.

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...ure-of-uptown/
In comparison to what it used to be like a couple of decades ago in Uptown:
Quote:

By Bisnow

30 years ago, the Uptown/Galleria was one of the softest markets in the country with 25% vacancy and companies fleeing to other submarkets. (Even the dust was going elsewhere.) My, how times have changed—experts at Bisnow's Future of Uptown/Galleria event yesterday say it's now one of the best.
Elsewhere:
Quote:

By Houston Business Journal

PM Realty Group has plans to turn a long-standing strip center in Montrose into a mixed-use development

PM Realty Group did not share early design plans, but several sources confirmed the mixed-use structure could include residential with retail on the ground floor.

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/b...ould-slow.html
Quote:

By Bisnow

Many thanks to our sponsor Bury, which is keeping busy with several multifamily projects under construction. That includes some Uptown communities, like Bristol Park. That 219-unit mid-rise will sit on 1.5 acres by the park within walking distance of the Galleria. It's also working on a multifamily project at 249 and Cypresswood for Stonelake and Embrey.

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...ure-of-uptown/
Quote:

By Bisnow

Wulfe & Co founder/chairman Ed Wulfe. Ed thinks Uptown is on the verge of a new era, including the transformation of Post Oak into one of the best streets in the world. He says overall retail in the submarket is 99% occupied, with rents shooting up in response to high land prices. To make new retail development pencil out, you need to either do multi-level projects or mix with office. (He's doing both at BLVD Place, where 122k SF of retail and 90k SF office space will open in June.)

A resourceful member on HAIF also mentioned earlier this week to keep an eye on Uptown, it's on the verge of a super-boom with several retail, condos, apartments highrises, hotels on the verge of announcement, particularly along the Uptown Westheimer Corridor.
A possibility of a 5th Houston theme park being proposed:
Quote:

By TowerSpotter on HAIF

SAG is assisting the Pasadena Second Century Corporation and the City of Pasadena, TX with understanding the development potential of underutilized land surrounding the Pasadena Convention Center & Fairgrounds Complex. The site area encompasses over 200 acres. Our services included researching similar-sized communities nationwide to gain an understanding of what other suburban locales offered. The study is focused primarily on hotel, restaurant, retail, water park, amphitheater, and theme parks and understanding the supply, demand, pricing and financing factors that impact their feasibility.

http://strategicadvisorygroup.net/mi...t-pasadena-tx/
To end on this note with Green Street in Downtown Houston:
Quote:

By Midway Companies

The Green Street development is calling for a 25 story 250 room hotel in Downtown Houston at the corner of Dallas and Fannin. Other takers in the Green Street development are six unspecified restaurants and a fitness center.

http://midwaycompanies.com/img/leasi...ising_Plan.pdf

TowerSpotter Nov 20, 2013 11:44 PM

Haha thanks for updating N90 :)

Urbannizer Nov 20, 2013 11:47 PM

I would post but I'm out of town atm. Here's the newest development map for downtown.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7433/1...34cf5f3c_b.jpg

Urbannizer Nov 21, 2013 1:10 AM

Some updates from Monday, by me.

Skyhouse

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2812/1...0d0ef2e7_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/1...fb9fef1d_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7407/1...d1b5602f_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2865/1...54db8df9_b.jpg

Former Savoy Hotel

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3736/1...60d4d567_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7322/1...589cd3bd_b.jpg

Greenstreet

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/1...dae83260_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/1...98f6e0ea_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3754/1...3449bbd0_b.jpg

Former Macy's Site

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5482/1...6a2bbde6_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7341/1...419d9de1_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3779/1...cc0e3d50_b.jpg

806 Main

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3834/1...352cef56_b.jpg

BrandonJXN Nov 21, 2013 4:09 PM

As someone who has never been to Houston (aside from an hour layover at George Bush), can someone explain which buildings comprise Allen Center?

Wattleigh Nov 21, 2013 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThreeHundred (Post 6347744)
As someone who has never been to Houston (aside from an hour layover at George Bush), can someone explain which buildings comprise Allen Center?

http://brookfieldofficeproperties.co...nter-8392.html

The former Enron Tower was also part of the project at one point, though that technically ended when Chevron purchased the building from Brookfield a few years ago.

toxteth o'grady Nov 21, 2013 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N90 (Post 6347037)
A possibility of a 5th Houston theme park being proposed

I imagine all that had to happen was Astroworld getting leveled. Come to think of it, the Dome would make a good amusement park.

TowerSpotter Nov 22, 2013 12:13 AM

609 Main at Texas

http://www.bisnow.com/testzz/writer/...ows-closed.jpg

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...ile-john-mooz/

AviationGuy Nov 22, 2013 3:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6348272)
I imagine all that had to happen was Astroworld getting leveled. Come to think of it, the Dome would make a good amusement park.

Yeah, they could do it like Snoopyland at the Mall of the Americas in Bloomington, MN (indoor amusement park).

toxteth o'grady Nov 22, 2013 10:04 PM

Phillips 66 makes it official.

Rendering: Phillips 66 breaks ground on new corporate campus

diskojoe Nov 26, 2013 1:15 AM

All of these renders made me laugh due to the amount of people walking around in them. Never have I ever seen this many people in that area except when the custodians get off night shift.


diskojoe Nov 26, 2013 1:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyv (Post 6343222)
I do not understand why they have to tear down this building when there's so much vacant land around, I know it's not the most charming building but as little as Houston has preserved I would wish they rehab it.

There is not any vacant land in the area where this building sits. It used to be really vibrant back in the day when Montrose was a cool place to hangout.

glowrock Nov 26, 2013 1:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diskojoe (Post 6352983)
There is not any vacant land in the area where this building sits. It used to be really vibrant back in the day when Montrose was a cool place to hangout.

It's not like that section of Montrose isn't still pretty good in terms of bars, restaurants and the like, diskojoe. Perhaps it's moved a couple of blocks to the north and east of Montrose and Westheimer, but it's still definitely there. ;)

(See Hay Merchant/El Real/etc... for example)

Aaron (Glowrock)

toxteth o'grady Nov 26, 2013 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glowrock (Post 6352990)
It's not like that section of Montrose isn't still pretty good in terms of bars, restaurants and the like, diskojoe. Perhaps it's moved a couple of blocks to the north and east of Montrose and Westheimer, but it's still definitely there. ;)

It's there, but it's changing. One by one, the older smaller homes and apartments are coming down and being replaced by larger residential blocks. And it continues...

http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/x...pse1c8f322.jpg
http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/x...psf2fb7045.jpg
http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps6ac3093a.jpg

Urbannizer Nov 26, 2013 9:45 PM

SWN HQ: 11/25 by Triton

http://i.imgur.com/JDcKGKB.jpg?1

Energy Center Three: 11/25 by me

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3791/1...3f826138_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7448/1...79f64730_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7355/1...f38e2108_c.jpg

Samsung Tower: 11/25 by me

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5509/1...79512df3_c.jpg

Waterwall Place

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...08513999_n.jpg

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...02050242_n.jpg

Hanover West University: by larrydierker

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5474/1...bb0e804e_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2812/1...287dc193_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/1...01c008eb_b.jpg

Wattleigh Nov 26, 2013 9:53 PM

Brief piece on the Mid-Main Apartment project in Midtown...

http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=6964

Quote:

Mid-Main Movement

Mixed-use Houston development builds on urban ideals.

http://archpaper.com/uploads/image/0...-archpaper.jpg

As Houston begins to grow from the inside out, many developers are staking their ground in the Mid-Main district just south of downtown. Cultivating a culture of vibrancy, public transit, and neighborhood interaction are some of the goals of one new project located in this prime location along the METRORail light rail system. New York City–based Rogers Partners Architects + Urban Designers and local developer RHS Interests are planning to break ground in Spring 2014 on a mixed-use development located at the 3500 and 3600 block of Main Street. The privately funded project, which also enlists the help of architect and Rice professor William T. Cannady and Gensler Houston, is estimated to be complete by mid to late 2015.

LordElPaso Nov 26, 2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6353148)
It's there, but it's changing. One by one, the older smaller homes and apartments are coming down and being replaced by larger residential blocks. And it continues...

Indeed. This is progress to some, but it seems that this city is being squeezed out of the hands of the locals, into the hands of (corporate) developers, and a big part of why I loved Houston is slipping away.

Wattleigh Nov 26, 2013 10:48 PM

An account of the work now going on at the Texaco buildings downtown, by 'rechlin' on HAIF

Quote:

Quite a lot more activity today. There are several guys on the roof by the southwest side of the taller building, where they have set up another structure, a ladder up to a third floor window by the south corner, a few more guys hanging out a fifth floor window that has been removed (hard to see in the photo but just above the ladder), and they've removed a bit of the façade between the third and fourth floors on the southwest side of the shorter building.
and a photo from the same user's thread...

http://i.imgur.com/NAiEm69.jpg

Urbannizer Nov 27, 2013 6:05 AM

Former Macy's Site: 11/24 by Candace Garcia

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7324/1...1cfd56c6_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7349/1...d75b3752_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7449/1...1e3f0303_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5499/1...8f81381d_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5480/1...e255f6aa_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7332/1...ba735e03_b.jpg

toxteth o'grady Nov 27, 2013 6:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wattleigh (Post 6354274)
Brief piece on the Mid-Main Apartment project in Midtown...

http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=6964

Well, they get points for trying to embrace the new-urbanism. I had no idea, though, that the typical apartment block enclosing a parking garage - seen everywhere from Houston to Dallas to Fort Worth to Washington, DC - had gotten the name "Houston Wrap". Are we that predictable?:slob:

toxteth o'grady Nov 27, 2013 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordElPaso (Post 6354307)
it seems that this city is being squeezed out of the hands of the locals, into the hands of (corporate) developers, and a big part of why I loved Houston is slipping away.

In short, the hippies are getting pushed out so the yuppies can move in. Not sure it's progress, but at least the biodiversity of the green spaces is being maintained.

Bailey Nov 27, 2013 6:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6355308)
In short, the hippies are getting pushed out so the yuppies can move in. Not sure it's progress, but at least the biodiversity of the green spaces is being maintained.

Yuppies> Hippies

You do know that Yuppies stands for Young Urban Professionals? Why wouldn't we want these type of people in Houston?

shakman Nov 27, 2013 7:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bailey (Post 6355338)
Yuppies> Hippies

You do know that Yuppies stands for Young Urban Professionals? Why wouldn't we want these type of people in Houston?

I suppose Hippies stands for Hillbilly In-bred Professionals? :D

TowerSpotter Nov 27, 2013 7:31 PM

2 New Developments listed...Thanks to Urbannizer for finding these.


Wattleigh Nov 27, 2013 7:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6355307)
Well, they get points for trying to embrace the new-urbanism. I had no idea, though, that the typical apartment block enclosing a parking garage - seen everywhere from Houston to Dallas to Fort Worth to Washington, DC - had gotten the name "Houston Wrap". Are we that predictable?:slob:


It's probably referring to the bulk of other projects in the city, not an industry term...

As for the two other projects just posted - the one for the Greenway looks pretty good in terms of scaling. Sounds like it will accompany the other developments in the area pretty well w/ GFR based on the comments about the plans.

And it's good to see someone else has plans for the two blocks in Midtown that Milhaus had previously proposed apartments for. The neighborhood is too hot for that land to remain dormant for too long.

Urbannizer Nov 27, 2013 7:43 PM

East Downtown Promenade: 11/24 by HoustonMidtown

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3692/1...45ecf084_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3780/1...6fc8bde9_b.jpg

Urbannizer Nov 29, 2013 2:34 AM

Birdsall By the Park Apartments

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3777/1...f54152a7_b.jpg

Broadstone Midtown: 11/20

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...25274870_n.jpg

Urbannizer Nov 29, 2013 7:07 PM

Alexan Midtown: New Renderings

http://tcresidential.com/wp-content/...01_gallery.jpg

http://tcresidential.com/wp-content/...es_gallery.jpg

Harris County / COH Joint Processing Center

http://www.pgal.com/media/cache/d4/d...a0cf6748a4.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGAL
PGAL has completed Programming for the Harris County/City of Houston Joint Processing Center. The primary goal of this project is to combine County and City operations to establish a new level of detainees processing by focusing on directing identified detainees to the appropriate outside community resources in lieu of increasing the jail population while separating out those individuals who require specialized handling from the general population. This new facility will provide: upfront increased medical and mental health screening for all incoming detainees; space for short-term assessment of detainees entering the detention system as well as for those about to be released; eliminate County/City duplication and provide improved services for the public; and incorporate current/future technology such as video visitation while addressing deficiencies in current functions and operations.

http://www.pgal.com/portfolio/harris...ocessing-cent/

Urbannizer Nov 30, 2013 8:12 AM

Bunker Hill: MetroNational is the developer, going up in the Memorial City area.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5483/1...3f2a3df5_b.jpg

Quote:

  • 12-Story Apartment High-Rise
  • 348 Units
  • 64,500 square foot of amentities
  • 26,000 square foot retail space
  • 44,000 Whole Foods

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2850/1...8065c3a6_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7399/1...4a941748_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/1...9d35968b_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5508/1...5ba8ecda_b.jpg

http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...l/#entry441825

MCM 303: Also proposed for the Memorial City area by MetroNational

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3725/1...af93fe27_b.jpg

glowrock Nov 30, 2013 8:32 AM

Nice project! :tup:

Aaron (Glowrock)

TowerSpotter Nov 30, 2013 8:37 AM

The developments keep on getting better and better.

N90 Nov 30, 2013 10:29 AM

My gosh, what kind of a beast is Houston becoming. In the last one week they've proposed 9 buildings above 10 floors. The 4 from that Westheimer mixed use all 4 range from 17-22 floors, a 10 story announced elsewhere, an 11 story in Greenway, a 12 story (or higher) in Houston's Memorial City area, 28 story residential tower for downtown, a what seems to be 33 floors in Downtown, and Urbannizer mentioned another in Uptown that looks exactly like the Austonian which I've seen renderings for before (for Uptown Park). It's supposed to be in North Uptown and is an exact replica of the Austonian by the same architect and same height.

That's 9 in one week with one more pending (so 10, the Uptown Park) and HAIFers have implied this isn't even close to all the stuff we don't know about yet.

For the Uptown Park rendering see TowerSpotters post number 17: http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...ity-mixed-use/

N90 Nov 30, 2013 10:33 AM

Under construction Houston is second to New York in number of buildings, tied with Miami and San Francisco. For proposed, only New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles have more.

Also so many under construction and proposed are over 500 feet. Which should keep Houston as the third tallest in number over 500 feet behind New York and Chicago. In fact, two of tonight's reveals are over 500 feet (the two in Uptown).

Urbannizer Nov 30, 2013 10:43 AM

And we have more. :-)

Another Residential High-Rise for Downtown: Designed by Ziegler Cooper, this one is proposed for the remaining block behind Hess Tower. Sorry for the rough image quality.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3788/1...b09e5ac1_b.jpg

Gables Post Oak: New Rendering

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3780/1...db8e32da_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7434/1...700a40b9_b.jpg

http://www.humphreys.com/wp-content/...igns_FINAL.pdf


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