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CaliNative Jul 6, 2022 8:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9668592)
e_r:

https://i.postimg.cc/FRHtkP39/Marine-Hardware-CD46.jpg
San Pedro CD, 1946

Note two addresses, one on Beacon (downtown San Pedro), one on Sardine (could be considered the warehouse district).

Doesn't look like Beacon dowtown. Must be Sardine location. Probable strong fish odor in air. They still canned tuna and sardines and even mackerel around there in 1946.

unihikid Jul 6, 2022 3:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9668396)
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Here's another mystery snapshot; this one taken down in San Pedro.

"1940 Photo San Pedro Mobil Gas Marine Hardware Fishery Supply Warehouse District"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/eLffBw.jpg
eBay

Do we have any San Pedros (Pedroites?) on the thread who might recognize this area?

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I really want to say that's where LAMI is based (Los Angeles Maritime Institute). They have a cafe on the ground floor. In the background would be where Ports O Call" once was. also note the water/dock area. The building is a light blue now, and is mostly untouched.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7319...7i16384!8i8192

https://lamitopsail.org/

John Maddox Roberts Jul 6, 2022 3:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9668415)
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From a family album.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/pvLPlM.jpg
eBay

Mt. Lowe Incline.



When I enlarged the snapshot in order to read the sign I noticed a second sign a bit farther up and tacked to a tree.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/xMLsUp.jpg

The tree sign appears to have a lot of writing on it. I can't imagine what it says.






The tree sign is also visible in this hand-colored slide.... but I don't see the bigger sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/a06yto.jpg
eBay

I see the bigger sign!...It appears to have white lettering on a dark background. (opposite of how it looks in the album photo)


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What I can make out of the 1st sign:

"Length of Incline Walk 3000 ft.
Direct Ascent is 1325 ft.

Steepest Grade
62***Cent"
Maybe someone with better eyes can read the rest. I suspect that the last word is "percent," in reference to the grade of slope, if I'm remembering correctly from my old army Combat Engineer days.

unihikid Jul 6, 2022 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9668381)
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Thanks for the birthday wishes! :)






Here's a mystery location from eBay

"Vtg 1965 Wilshire Blvd Street Los Angeles CA W/ City Bus Old Cars Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/rSthEp.jpg
eBay

So what's going on with that old lamp post?


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The Lot across the street might be the Sunset Blvd house lot. For the post, it looks like they might be replacing the older style signs for Wilshire to the "Shotgun" style:shrug:?

GaylordWilshire Jul 6, 2022 4:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9668381)
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Thanks for the birthday wishes! :)

Here's a mystery location from eBay

"Vtg 1965 Wilshire Blvd Street Los Angeles CA W/ City Bus Old Cars Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/rSthEp.jpg
eBay

So what's going on with that old lamp post?


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I'm certain that the house at left is 684 S June Street just north of Wilshire in Hancock Park. I'm not sure what the odd post is all about--appears to have been at the sec of Wilshire & Keniston. I'm guessing it might have been a marker for the Wilshire Crest subdivision.


This is an item I have for my story-in-progress on the house:

https://i.postimg.cc/QNJWwKph/HP684-...UT-bmp-001.jpg
Historic Los Angeles

HossC Jul 6, 2022 8:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9668415)

Mt. Lowe Incline.

When I enlarged the snapshot in order to read the sign I noticed a second sign a bit farther up and tacked to a tree.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/xMLsUp.jpg

The tree sign appears to have a lot of writing on it. I can't imagine what it says.

I found a different version of the lower Mount Lowe sign in a video on YouTube. Note that the direct ascent is 80ft shorter. I couldn't see the higher sign, but I spotted a couple of others from further up. I have a feeling that we've seen the telescopes pointing to different locations before.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LoweSigns1.jpg
YouTube

CaliNative Jul 7, 2022 6:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9669215)
I found a different version of the lower Mount Lowe sign in a video on YouTube. Note that the direct ascent is 80ft shorter. I couldn't see the higher sign, but I spotted a couple of others from further up. I have a feeling that we've seen the telescopes pointing to different locations before.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LoweSigns1.jpg
YouTube

The Mt. Lowe incline RR is one attraction of the old days that would probably be a huge attraction today. The depression killed it off. I wonder how much it would cost to build an aerial tramway to Mt. Wilson (or Lowe)? It would be wonderful :wiseman:

Flyingwedge Jul 7, 2022 6:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9668381)
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"Vtg 1965 Wilshire Blvd Street Los Angeles CA W/ City Bus Old Cars Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/rSthEp.jpg
eBay

So what's going on with that old lamp post?

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https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...UC11708892.jpg

EXM-N-9456-057 @ USC Digital Library

This 1952 photo looks east on Wilshire; the large building in the background is still on the SEC of Rimpau. At the bottom we see a sign
atop what appears to be e_r's lamp post, on the SEC of Keniston as GW said. The sign seems to have a left/north-pointing arrow.

Does the sign say "Muller Bros"? There was a Muller Bros at 6380 Sunset (near Cahuenga) in 1956, so the sign could be an ad for that.

odinthor Jul 7, 2022 12:38 PM

:previous:

Well done, FW: What's on the sign looks like the Muller Bros. logo/font all right!

https://i.postimg.cc/x1CkDFYL/Muller...-1952-7-23.jpg
LA Times, 7/23/1952

transitfan Jul 7, 2022 1:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9668381)
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Thanks for the birthday wishes! :)






Here's a mystery location from eBay

"Vtg 1965 Wilshire Blvd Street Los Angeles CA W/ City Bus Old Cars Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/rSthEp.jpg
eBay

So what's going on with that old lamp post?


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I may be wrong, but I think that picture was taken before 1965. The bus is still sporting a LAMTA logo on the side. LAMTA was replaced by SCRTD in 1964, and while most buses retained the two-tone green livery of LAMTA, they generally had the SCRTD logos applied right away.

GaylordWilshire Jul 7, 2022 1:05 PM

:previous:


Excellent find, FW


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A.../muller20s.jpg

A 2012 post on Muller Bros, its site to one day become that of the Cinerama Dome, is here.

HossC Jul 7, 2022 6:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9669717)

The Mt. Lowe incline RR is one attraction of the old days that would probably be a huge attraction today. The depression killed it off. I wonder how much it would cost to build an aerial tramway to Mt. Wilson (or Lowe)? It would be wonderful :wiseman:

I'd love to ride the Mt Lowe incline and railroad, but remember that health and safety hadn't been invented when the original was built. I think that could make the costs prohibitive. The grab below is from the same video as yesterday, and shows a man scooting down one of the tracks sitting on a small block.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag.../LAMtLowe1.jpg
YouTube

Martin Pal Jul 7, 2022 7:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9670096)
[...] ...but remember that health and safety hadn't been invented when the original was built.
_________________________________________________________________

HossC, :haha:!

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2022 4:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9668592)

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 9668799)
I really want to say that's where LAMI is based (Los Angeles Maritime Institute). They have a cafe on the ground floor. In the background would be where Ports O Call" once was. also note the water/dock area. The building is a light blue now, and is mostly untouched.

:previous: Thanks guys!

I almost didn't post the photograph.

Here it is once more.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/eLffBw.jpg


Today / for comparison
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/p42fL1.jpg


I imagine the Los Angeles Maritime Institute might like to own the photograph.






Does the giant fish light up?...(below / on the left)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/nG6Mho.jpg

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Noir_Noir Jul 8, 2022 2:38 PM

:previous:


The Fishermen’s Co-operative Association building.


https://i.imgur.com/KHelMDi.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - San Pedro News Pilot, 24 November 1937


Two pictures from about 1989/90.


https://i.imgur.com/mHyTKQc.jpg
loc.gov - Library of Congress

https://i.imgur.com/CDLydKf.jpg
loc.gov - Library of Congress

Bristolian Jul 8, 2022 3:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 9669801)
:previous:


Excellent find, FW
A 2012 post on Muller Bros, its site to one day become that of the Cinerama Dome, is here.

I would strongly advise not clicking on the Retronaut link in GW's 2012 post. The link appears to have been hijacked and is now a ransomware scam.

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2022 6:32 PM

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...Hoss, thanks for the Mt. Lowe video!

From the video.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/DymD6a.jpg
eBay



A reminder of how circular the circular bridge was.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/FZ1JxO.jpg
dbs-library






Circular Bridge cabinet card.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/5WFL0f.jpg

It appears that someone left their laptop.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/aJgnON.jpg

What the heck is that. . .any guesses??? :shrug:



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Earl Boebert Jul 8, 2022 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9671071)
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[snip]

What the heck is on that abutment? It looks like a laptop!



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/aJgnON.jpg

Any ideas? :shrug:


Links coming
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I think it may be the photographers plate/sheet film case for his view camera.

Cheers,

Earl

riichkay Jul 8, 2022 7:20 PM

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
pixels.com


The bobby-soxers mob Frankie upon his arrival at the Pasadena station, Aug. 11 1943.

On the 14th he would appear at the Hollywood Bowl, and on the 16th in a radio broadcast from the Hollywood Canteen.


The rest of the photos are courtesy of the L.A. Times archives....


In this shot we can see the north side, and a sliver of the signage, of the Pasadena Winter Garden skating rink, 171 S. Arroyo Pkwy....our friend Martin Turnbull has covered that building on his site.... https://martinturnbull.com/2021/12/0...-circa-1940-3/

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



Prior to Sinatra's arrival....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds



....a picnic lunch....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds



.....and the kids get in some dancing....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

...the Crown Transfer and Storage building shows at 45 S. Arroyo Pkwy.

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2022 10:36 PM

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I was excited to post this photograph as a mystery location

Initially I thought this was a photograph of one of those stylized (kitschy) Los Angeles apartment buildings that were built following the discovery of King Tut's Tomb in 1922. (resulting in 'Egyptmania')

Seller's description:...1916 RPPC LOS ANGELES CA 420 W 59th PLACE GRAND HOTEL HOME ? CALIFORNIA


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/OBTAXD.jpg
eBay

But King Tut's Tomb wasn't discovered until 1922!

. . .and apartment buildings don't usually have turnstiles. (I just noticed them) *slaps forehead*

So despite the seller's description. . ...My guess is. .the building is actually a pavilion at the San Diego World's Fair, 1915-1917.




Here's the reverse with the 420 W 59th PLACE address - and - the 1916 postmark.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/kWNhiT.jpg

But no mention of the world's fair.


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Flyingwedge Jul 9, 2022 3:23 AM

:previous:

I checked photos of the SD Exposition buildings but didn't see this one.

Then I thought maybe it was from the 1915 Panama-Pacific Exposition in San Francisco, but no.

As it turns out, the RPPC shows the Fine Arts Building from the 1894 California Midwinter International Exposition in San Francisco's
Golden Gate Park. The building became the first home of the de Young Museum.

Read about it (and see more pics) at the de Young website and also at OutsideLands.org.

GaylordWilshire Jul 9, 2022 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 9670811)
I would strongly advise not clicking on the Retronaut link in GW's 2012 post. The link appears to have been hijacked and is now a ransomware scam.


Glad you caught that Bristolian--I've removed the link fom the post.

https://i.postimg.cc/9MdpPcs2/muller-LAT.jpg
LAT Feb 9, 1936

Martin Pal Jul 9, 2022 6:44 PM

Enjoyed your Sinatra arrival post, riichkay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9671138)
[...]
The bobby-soxers mob Frankie upon his arrival at the Pasadena station, Aug. 11 1943.

On the 14th he would appear at the Hollywood Bowl...
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https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...dyW3L._AC_.jpg
Hollywood Historic Photos

On Aug. 14, 1943, Frank was visited by Jose Iturbi, composer, conductor, and premiere performer at the Hollywood Bowl for over 50 years.
This night, Max Steiner conducted the orchestra.


http://governorsislandguide.com/wp-c...2/sinatra2.jpg

https://ucarecdn.com/d57f229b-5792-4...-81da8467d64a/
Hollywood Bowl/history

Frank Sinatra’s Hollywood Bowl debut on August 14, 1943, is the first appearance by a pop singer with the Los Angeles Philharmonic.


https://www.mcall.com/resizer/FPKUh3...DPNR6SIFK4.jpg
L.A. TImes archive

People arrive at the Hollywood Bowl for Frank Sinatra's performance.

The ladies at the second turnstile from the right seem very excited about the man in front of them walking toward them. Could that be Sinatra?


Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9671138)
...and on the 16th in a radio broadcast from the Hollywood Canteen.
_________________________________________________________________

https://greekreporter.com/wp-content...ia-768x582.jpg
WikiMedia

Frank Sinatra at the Hollywood Canteen, 1943, with Harry James, above, and Bing Crosby, below.

https://www.hollywoodphotographs.com...750/HC-353.jpg
Hollywood Photographs

The two photos are dated 1943, but not specifically to around August 14th.

BillinGlendaleCA Jul 9, 2022 7:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9669215)
I found a different version of the lower Mount Lowe sign in a video on YouTube. Note that the direct ascent is 80ft shorter. I couldn't see the higher sign, but I spotted a couple of others from further up. I have a feeling that we've seen the telescopes pointing to different locations before.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LoweSigns1.jpg
YouTube

They've recreated Inspiration Point...

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...rFgvhCf-XL.jpg

Lwize Jul 10, 2022 1:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 9671958)
They've recreated Inspiration Point...

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...rFgvhCf-XL.jpg

Looks fishy

BillinGlendaleCA Jul 10, 2022 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9672112)
Looks fishy

Yup, shot with a 10mm fisheye lens.

CaliNative Jul 10, 2022 7:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9670096)
I'd love to ride the Mt Lowe incline and railroad, but remember that health and safety hadn't been invented when the original was built. I think that could make the costs prohibitive. The grab below is from the same video as yesterday, and shows a man scooting down one of the tracks sitting on a small block.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag.../LAMtLowe1.jpg
YouTube

:previous:
Hoss, I know it would be almost impossible and expensive to rebuild the railway. What I am suggesting is an aerial tram up to Mt. Lowe or even better, Mt. Wilson. It could carry tourists, hikers, T.V. transmission workers, Observatory staff etc. I'm sure it would be heavily used. The current two lane road to Mt. Wilso is long and winding. Tram woukd be a direct route up the south side from Sierra Madre or Pasadena. Aerial trams are not hugely expensive. They are all over the world. One has been proposed to Mt. Lee or Mt. Hollywood. Another to Dodger Stadium. They exist everywhere--Palm Springs, Swiss Alps, London, Rio etc. etc. I'm sure you are aware of all this and probably are more of an expert on it than I am. Wouldn't a Mt. Wilson tramway be nice? I estimate a cost of under $50 million that would pay for itself with fares. We need an investor(s) and approval from the Forest Service. It can be done. Maybe the base station could be located near the Sierra Madre Gold Line station. Maybe done by Olympics? :wiseman:

Godzilla Jul 10, 2022 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6519802)
http://i.imgur.com/8btq4ph.jpg?1?1479
LAT Dec 7, 1912


Back to the vicinity of Third and Vermont once again-- I came across this Times story on former L.A. mayor Henry T. Hazard's estate once at 255 S. New Hampshire--Hazard owned a lot of land hereabouts, perhaps as much as 80 acres at one time. What interested me about these pictures is that somewhere on the thread were posted some mystery photos of what seems to me may have been of this house and garden, but that were never identified. I've looked back, to no avail. Anyone remember? Can anyone find photos anywhere?


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpg

1910 and 1914 Baist atlas maps, 1921 below


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...2520PM.bmp.jpg

Maps from Historic Map Works






Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7315420)


It turns out that the Hazard Homestead and its lower latitude flora located in "the Bimini District" was a location for Theda Bara's lost film, Cleopatra (1917).

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...pshhyp4fax.jpg 1917 MoPicNews


Elsewhere, it has been reported there were 3,000 extras present as part of a barge-on-the-Nile scene, in or near what is now known as Dominguez Slough. Sadly, just like Ray's Mayflower, few, if any "location" stills exist. :shrug:


:previous:




"Beautiful new residential show place on Foothill-To-Sea Boulevard" is captioned above the Henry T. Hazard homestead at Third and Vermont. To what road does "Foothill to the Sea Boulevard" refer? Vermont Ave., as distinct from "Foothill Blvd."?*



http://www.sciencebuzz.org/sites/def...lm%20Frame.jpg
http://www.sciencebuzz.org/sites/def...lm%20Frame.jpg





:previous:


The Mo Pic News article erroneously referenced former LA Mayor Henry T Hazard as Governor. Read more about this colorful character here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_T._Hazard In addition to GW's Mayor Hazard reference, there have been other NLA references, notably FW's discussion of the Hazard Pavillion. https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=43585 (See also: https://losangelestheatres.blogspot....-pavilion.html)










*According to a May 12, 1988-LAT article the 20 longest streets within Los Angeles city limits are:
STREET: MILES
1. Sepulveda Boulevard: 25.4
2. Mulholland Drive: 23.8
3. Figueroa Street: 22.2
4. Sunset Boulevard: 20.2
5. Western Avenue: 20.0
6. Vermont Avenue: 19.8
7. Victory Boulevard: 17.9
8. Vanowen Street: 17.0
9. Roscoe Boulevard: *16.4
10. Foothill Boulevard: 16.4
11. Ventura Boulevard: 16.1
12. Sherman Way: 15.9
13. Laurel Canyon Boulevard: 15.3
14. San Fernando Road: **15.1
15. Burbank Boulevard: 15.1
16. Oxnard Street: 15.0
17. Saticoy Street: 14.9
18. Normandie Avenue: ***14.8
19. Olympic Boulevard: 14.8
20. Hoover Street: 14.1

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2022 3:55 PM

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mystery auditorium. (currently on eBay)


"Antique Real Photo RPPC Auditorium Pacific - Palisades California - US Flag "

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DIbxBo.jpg
eBay

Does anyone have an idea where this auditorium was located?



"Back stamp is AZO unposted with 2 triangles pointed up & 2 down." (no photo)

AZO?

One of the popular photographic papers used for printing postcards was Kodak Professional AZO Paper.

This was suitable for making contact prints, rather than enlargements for which the source of light would be much weaker.

Postcards produced on AZO paper had AZO stamp boxes on the back. The style of these boxes varied over time.


You learn something new every day. :)
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ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2022 4:56 PM

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Once more.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/BvjwUZ.jpg

I would be remiss if I didn't say how amazed I am that you all were able to figure out the purpose of the jury-rigged lamp post. :worship:


Muller Bros. sign.
Quote:

GaylordWilshire / Flyingwedge
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/PDEwUY.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1294/WDxAvI.gif

:worship: ....:worship:....:worship:

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HossC Jul 11, 2022 5:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9672905)

mystery auditorium. (currently on eBay)

"Antique Real Photo RPPC Auditorium Pacific - Palisades California - US Flag "

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DIbxBo.jpg
eBay

Does anyone have an idea where this auditorium was located?

That picture can be found in the Santa Monica Public Library. The description says "Interior of Tabernacle, the temporary auditorium in Temescal Canyon" and dates the image at 1923. The image below shows the exterior in 1924. There are many other views if you use the search term "Tabernacle in Temescal Canyon".

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...calCanyon1.jpg
Santa Monica Public Library

odinthor Jul 11, 2022 5:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ovens (Post 9666617)
took a little hike today up into Willacre Park in Studio City --

I wandered a bit off the trail and found this little stack-stone foundation, with some stairs. There was a tree growing behind it -- I assume the tree grew well after the stones were set up. Any thoughts / ideas? Happy 4th ya'll.

Was curious if anyone was aware of a home tract up there?

https://i.imgur.com/QxZwbtu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lBPifHg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8xz1yJR.jpg


EXACT LOCATION: 34.13323° N, 118.39315° W

ovens, I've been trying to make some progress on this, without success (perhaps others will have better luck).

All I can find is that the park (opened in 1982) was formed from the Wilacre estate, and so presumably the structures or foundations found there are those of the Wilacre family . . . on which family I don't seem to be able to find anything. Sigh.

:runaway:

HossC Jul 11, 2022 6:43 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9673043)

ovens, I've been trying to make some progress on this, without success (perhaps others will have better luck).

All I can find is that the park (opened in 1982) was formed from the Wilacre estate, and so presumably the structures or foundations found there are those of the Wilacre family . . . on which family I don't seem to be able to find anything. Sigh.

:runaway:

I couldn't see any structures there on any of the historical aerial views that I checked.

HossC Jul 11, 2022 6:44 PM

I continued looking for the Tabernacle in Temescal Canyon, and found it on this 1927 aerial view.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...calCanyon2.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

For comparison, here's a 1927 image "Looking down from Temescal Canyon with a view of the Tabernacle on the left and classrooms on the right and Sycamores in the foreground."

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...calCanyon3.jpg
Santa Monica Public Library

rick m Jul 12, 2022 12:44 AM

Rare Hazard family photo album---
 
An absolutely BIZARRE set of photos are found in the Hazard family album at UCLA Special Collections Library---

odinthor Jul 12, 2022 4:26 AM

I just now ran across some more information about Wilacre Park and its ownership history. Here's a link (my virus check says the link is safe):

http://www.studiocitymileofstyle.com...g-wilacre-park

Godzilla Jul 12, 2022 8:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick m (Post 9673404)
An absolutely BIZARRE set of photos are found in the Hazard family album at UCLA Special Collections Library---




Thanks for the reminder. The album was compiled by Henry Hazard's brother, George Washington "GW" Hazard. GW predeceased his brother by about 7 years having died in 1914.

From GW's obit:
Quote:

Many years ago he began assembling the now-famous Hazard collection of photographs of historical persons and places, for which he has refused $10,000. His intimate acquaintance with the early history-makers of the city enabled him to obtain much unpublished material which had been denied to others.

Most of the older residents of the city have at some time furnished Hazard material for his book. Some of those who gave him liberal assistance were ex-Mayor Workman, Attorney Henry O'Melveny, Prof. Rockwell D. Hunt, H.D. Barrows, Maj. Ben C. Truman, Mrs. L.M. Foy, Mrs, Laura E. King, Joseph Mesmer and other members of the Native Sons, Pioneer Society and Historical Society. The matter was prepared for the publisher by Verne Dyson.

Hazard was born in 1842 in Evanston, Ill. He arrived in Los Angeles in December, 1863, with his parents, Mr. and Mrs. A.M. Hazard, and has since been a resident of the city.

In his youth and early manhood Hazard was associated with his father in the freighting business. He was on a freighting expedition in the Owens River Valley when he learned the news of the assassination of President Lincoln.

Hazard and Miss Mary Ann Cox were married in 1877. Mrs. Hazard and these children are living: Mrs. Harry G. Folsom, Miss Evelyn Hazard and Arthur Hazard of this city, and Mrs. Charles B. Wynne of New York City. Other living relatives, besides former Mayor Hazard, are two sisters, Mrs. Abide Leckler and Mrs. Mary E. Taft, both of this city.

Odd Fellows Lodge No. 35 will have charge of the funeral services to be held at 2 o'clock tomorrow afternoon at the chapel of Overholtzer Sons' Company, at Pico street and Grand avenue. Burial will be in Evergreen Cemetery near the graves of his parents. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...hington-hazard
Quote:

Background
Hazard began compiling his extensive collection of photographs of historical persons and places relating to the history of Los Angeles in the 1880s, which he planned to use in writing his "History of Los Angeles and vicinity." When Hazard died in 1914, Verne Dyson, a writer for the Los Angeles Times and manager of the Pasadena News Bureau, purchased the collection from the Hazard family. Dyson continued to add to the collection, with the intention of finishing and producing Hazard's work. Although Dyson did complete a manuscript (now in the Verne Dyson Papers, 1914-1962 (Collection 804) in Special Collections), and issued a 30-p. prospectus for the work in 1914, it was never published. https://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8ws8v1b/

This is presumably the referenced link>> https://digital.library.ucla.edu/cat...198/zz0017pdjn. There are a number of unpolished gems here. Huntington Beach pickle factory? (Page 5)

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2022 2:15 AM

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From GW's obit:

I almost had a heart attack!

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Thanks for the link to the back story of Wilacre Park, odinthor.

This line caught my attention.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/5cH5AM.jpg
link



I found a second reference at avoidingregret.

"There were lots of signs of former habitation in the park, from the paved road to fences and other rusted, graffitied metal scraps. Wilacre reportedly housed the estate of a silent film star."


I've searched through the city directories for Will Acres. . .William Acres. . .and a few other possibilities but came up with nothing. Of course, Will Acres might be a stage name.


I'm hoping one of you can dig up some information on this elusive "silent film star".

:superwhip

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Earl Boebert Jul 13, 2022 2:57 PM

IMDB shows no one named Acres with a birthdate between 1 Jan 1880 and 31 Dec 1910.

The name may be a portmanteau, constructed from William (or Wilma) A. Cres_____ or some such.

Cheers,

Earl

odinthor Jul 13, 2022 4:28 PM

Concerning Wilacre Park, here is the first portion of the LA Times article referred to in the material at the link previously mentioned:

https://i.postimg.cc/x8Y8pggN/Viole-LAT-1985-3-26.jpg
LA Times, 3/26/1985

odinthor Jul 13, 2022 4:44 PM

Now, I thought that looking into the Jules Viole mentioned in connection with the park's history might reveal something of interest. Well, it did--but . . . nothing pertinent to the case at hand.

Some stray facts I gathered about Viole:

1890: Residence at 100 Aliso, and drugstore at 8 Upper Main, both shared with J. Celestine Clipfel. (1890 CD)

1893: Founding member of the Board of Directors of the Société de Secours Mutuels de la Legion Française de Los Angeles, “formed for purposes of mutual benefit to its members.” The other two directors were Auguste Blanchard and Felix Imbert. (LA Times, 1/10/1893) From this, we can see how it could have come about that he would know of the death of the Frenchman who had owned the park property. Diligent search of the membership rolls of the legion would likely yield the name.

1897: Residence at 780 New Depot St.; drugstore probably at same site as above, but re-addressed at 427 N. Main; both residence and drugstore evidently owned in partnership with John Lopizich. (1897 CD)

1904: Residence at 454 N. Beaudry. (1904 CD). More about 1904 and Viole shortly in another posting to come.

I was getting CD fatigue, so jumped to 1923: Residence at 1417 Lucile Avenue. (1923 CD)

1/23/1948, LA Times: Died "Wednesday" at 11901 Iredell St. (adjacent to park), aged 84.

1/2/1955, LA Times: His widow [Angele, née Donato], died at the Iredell residence.

And here is Mr. Viole himself (near center, to the right of the ribbon), with Joan of Arc (he was sometime president of the French Hospital):

https://i.postimg.cc/bJy46tkN/Viole-...-1937-5-10.jpg
LA Times, 5/10/1937.

odinthor Jul 13, 2022 4:51 PM

But wait! There's more.

In 1904, Viole was a co-owner of an interesting building at 1806 S. Main. The other owner was his partner-druggist Lopizich. Here is a (heavily edited by me) article about it:

https://i.postimg.cc/m2zJ6RzM/Viole-...-1904-4-19.jpg
LA Times, 4/19/1904

(Sorry the print's a bit small.)

:cheers:

ethereal_reality Jul 14, 2022 12:22 AM

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:previous: ... So the neighbors were afraid Mrs. Dunsbar was going to run a whore house in the La Paloma building.


From odinthor's article.

The building is a bee hive of cell. There are twenty-nine tiny rooms over two stories.
The neighbors also consider the name most suggestive - "La Paloma" (the dove).


A description of the 2nd floor.

"The upstairs consists of a broad hall in front, leading onto the extremely fancy balcony.
Other halls twist around the place like a rabbit warren, being many and very small. Upon these halls open the twenty-nine tiny rooms.
Some are in suites of two and some are single."






I've done my best to enlarge the article.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/0pxZTB.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/KKQqHv.jpg



And then there's the building, itself.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/zfEWBR.jpg
LA Times, 4/19/1904


My kingdom :pimpdaddy: for a better photograph of the building.



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Snix Jul 15, 2022 5:22 PM

Globe Coffee Shop
613 S. Hill Street
Opened November, 1936
(postcard view 1940)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cc6426ed_b.jpg
ebay
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1c468e7c_b.jpg
LAT 11.10.36
and closed by 1958
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f5124d38_z.jpg
LAT 10.12.58
Here are owner George Barraclough and his family pouring milk over the cornerstone of Barraclough's restaurant at 6220 W. 3rd Street in 1955.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ce1bd131_z.jpg
LAT 11.22.55
https://i0.wp.com/martinturnbull.com...os-Angeles.jpg
martinturnbull.com
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...230b5412_b.jpg
LAT 1.27.63

Martin Pal Jul 15, 2022 5:33 PM

Since Los Angeles is the host of the MLB All Star game this year, I thought I'd post this photo from the pre-game festivities the last, and only, time it was held
at Dodger Stadium, July 8, 1980. (The Coliseum hosted one in 1959 when the Dodgers played there.)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1f00052c_b.jpg
Photo courtesy of Jerry Reuss/Flickr

This event was the first time any stadium used the large DIAMONDVISION screen in the ballpark. Looks rather quaint now, at the time it was revolutionary.

An article about the 1980 All Star Game references how this came to be at Dodger Stadium, among other innovations for the event.

https://www.mlb.com/news/los-angeles...-all-star-game

(You can also find the entire game to view on youtube.)

This year it is being held next Tuesday, July 19, 2022, after being postponed from 2020. I'm not sure why it was postponed two years, but this year is 42 years from 1980 and 42 is a number every baseball fan knows. July 19, 2022, also happens to be Rachel Robinson's 100th Birthday! There has been no mention of this that I have noted anywhere. Maybe they are planning something with that in mind for that day. She did appear at Dodger Stadium on Jackie Robinson day this past April, and hopefully she will be able to again next week! That would be pretty special.

riichkay Jul 15, 2022 11:28 PM

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Add re: the Stadium, a ski jump pictured on Oct. 25, 1963....

"A 165-foot ski jump is constructed at Dodger Stadium (from the right field side to the left field side of the field) as part of the Giant International Ski Show and Grindelwald Ski Swap which opens today and runs through October 27. The jump hill is 28 stories high, nearly twice the height of the Dodger Stadium. Manufacturers, retailers and area ski operators all show their wares at the event, while slalom racing, fashion shows and world-famous personalities highlight the attraction."


There's also a film of the jumpers in action.....https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/v...tage/450041910

ethereal_reality Jul 16, 2022 3:35 AM

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riichkay, we've seen this amazing ski jump (on nla) but it was years ago. . . .so it's great to see it again. :)






Unless I'm mistaken, we haven't seen this building on nla. (I could be wrong, of course)


Does anyone know if this stone cabin has survived?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/CSfBBr.jpg
Published in the July 27, 1950 edition of the Valley Times.

When the photograph was taken in July 1950 it appears to be located in a residential area. ...(but the descriptions below beg to differ :shrug:)



I found two different descriptions:

"Stone cabin is possibly one of the oldest dwellings at Amestoy Ranch which is located at Los Encinos State Historic Park in Encino, CA".


and. . .

"Cabin built of native stone which gives evidence of being oldest structure in State Historical Monument in Encino, and which is possibly 150 years old."

That's 150 years old in 1950!


I'm looking for my link(s) again.
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Bristolian Jul 16, 2022 4:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9677212)
This year it is being held next Tuesday, July 19, 2022, after being postponed from 2020. I'm not sure why it was postponed two years, but this year is 42 years from 1980 and 42 is a number every baseball fan knows. July 19, 2022, also happens to be Rachel Robinson's 100th Birthday!

I believe that when Covid hit and the 2020 All Star game was cancelled, the 2021 game had already been awarded to Coors Field in Colorado and preparations were underway. Rather than halt that, Dodger Stadium got the next open date which was this year which happened to set up the remarkable milestones you mention.

riichkay Jul 16, 2022 4:48 AM

Dodger Stadium has also hosted boxing....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

March 21, 1963....Emile Griffith vs. Luis Rodgriguez headlined in a welterweight title match....I assume that in addition to the ringside configuration on the field there were fans in the stands along the first and 3rd base lines.....attendance that night was announced at 22,000.


There were 3 title bouts on the card that night (the fights were originally scheduled for the 16th)....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds





https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

In the featherweight fight, Sugar Ramos (right) pummeled Davey Moore in the 10th, the fight went on until the ref stopped it in the 11th....Moore gave a cogent interview after the fight, but collapsed in the dressing room and fell into a coma.


Moore never recovered, dying at White Memorial Hospital on Mar. 25th, age 29.


Bob Dylan read of the tragedy in the N.Y. Times, within hours he composed what many consider the best sports song ever, "Who Killed Davey Moore?" (although Dylan competes with himself, he later recorded another classic boxing tune, 1975's "Hurricane", about the wrongfully convicted middleweight Rubin "Hurricane" Carter).


Dylan never released "Davey Moore" commercially.....here's the Pete Seeger version (for my money the definitive recording) from a performance at Carnegie Hall, 6/8/63....as Pete says in his introduction, "a completely different kind of elegy...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56C...channel=csulon

Snix Jul 16, 2022 4:11 PM

Is this the cabin?
https://www.parks.ca.gov/pages/619/images/P0075152.jpg
https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=619
https://losangelesloveaffair.files.w...1/dscn7090.jpg
https://losangelesloveaffair.files.w...1/dscn7098.jpg
https://losangelesloveaffair.wordpre...historic-park/
"The oldest structure in the parks, however, probably a square stone house about 16x16 feet, 200 feet west of the adobe. This rock cabin bears some evidence of having been the field quarters of ranch foremen or tenders of the livestock..."
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...47e8f01b_b.jpg
Valley Times 7.28.50
This 1970s brochure says it was built around 1794
History records that on the afternoon of August 5, 1769, Don Gaspar de Portola's party of discovery arrived…About 25 years after the explorers visited here, Francisco Reyes, who had been the alcalde (mayor) of the Pueblo de Los Angeles, staked out a small rancho near other famous springs in the vicinity of the present site of the San Fernando Mission. After three years, the Franciscan Fathers exchanged the 4,460-acre Encino Rancho for this land to make it part of the mission grounds. Francisco moved to the Encino Rancho and built a small one-room stone hut, the first house in the area of Encino. The stone structure is believed to be one of those which stands on the park grounds.
https://digital-collections.csun.edu...id/41/download


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9677695)
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riichkay, we've seen this amazing ski jump (on nla) but it was years ago. . . .so it's great to see it again. :)






Unless I'm mistaken, we haven't seen this building on nla. (I could be wrong, of course)


Does anyone know if this stone cabin has survived?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/CSfBBr.jpg
Published in the July 27, 1950 edition of the Valley Times.

When the photograph was taken in July 1950 it appears to be located in a residential area. ...(but the descriptions below beg to differ :shrug:)



I found two different descriptions:

"Stone cabin is possibly one of the oldest dwellings at Amestoy Ranch which is located at Los Encinos State Historic Park in Encino, CA".


and. . .

"Cabin built of native stone which gives evidence of being oldest structure in State Historical Monument in Encino, and which is possibly 150 years old."

That's 150 years old in 1950!


I'm looking for my link(s) again.
.



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