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craneSpotter Oct 24, 2013 8:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 6314465)
And a normal flight from YEG to McMurray round trip is 700-1000 depending on the time of day.
I would love to see real completion in Canada.

I just paid $177.80 US return (NR, incl) for several coach tickets from SEA to LGB (Los Angeles area)! Non-stop on a JetBlue Airbus A320 with seat-back entertainment and a 34" pitch! Yeah I'm a cheap bastard...:D Alaska Airlines & Virgin America were just a tad more.

The prices for a return fare (CAD, incl) to the LA Area from YYJ for the same timeframe:

United Airlines (via SFO to BUR): 524.36; Alaska Airlines (via SEA to LGB): 539.28; Westjet (via YVR to SNA): 551.18
(it's about $375-400 return from YVR to LAX/SNA non-stop)

I dunno, those McMurray flight prices from YEG seem out of whack! There are two airlines and a decent volume, no? Almost seems like price gouging?? :shrug:

But, you can see my prices quoted above, it's not just the competition between airlines, but also seems to be the lower fees charged by the US airports (no AIFs) and higher passenger volumes between points. SEA/YVR and YYJ are all a similar distance by air to the LA area.

Airboy Oct 24, 2013 9:40 PM

AC fly’s Q400 a couple of times a day. Toronto gets a 320 a couple of times a day. YYC gets CRA 3 or 4 times.

WS fly’s the same on 737.
Vancouver 2X on CRJ
Plus Denver on a 319 I believe.

They could add more capacity I usually need to book a week in advance to get a seat. I have never been able to book the early afternoon flight.

Once the new terminal opens they can easily add more capacity but I don't expect the prices to go down.

craneSpotter Oct 24, 2013 9:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 6314725)
They could add more capacity I usually need to book a week in advance to get a seat. I have never been able to book the early afternoon flight.

Once the new terminal opens they can easily add more capacity but I don't expect the prices to go down.

hmmm, seems ripe for Porter to get in. Or, bigger planes by the existing airlines. Maybe some reduction in prices then.

Whoa YMM should have ~1.2 million PAX this year ! It could pass YQR...

SignalHillHiker Oct 25, 2013 12:15 AM

Ayreonaut just shared this on Facebook. Absolutely disgusting. I can't believe they're shameless enough to say this publicly.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...2F&h=zAQExbfwT

Daveography Oct 25, 2013 1:56 AM

^ Oh good, we're not the only ones that think so.

chris Oct 25, 2013 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 6314925)
Ayreonaut just shared this on Facebook. Absolutely disgusting. I can't believe they're shameless enough to say this publicly.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...2F&h=zAQExbfwT

WOW, I have never heard of another airline complaining and cutting service just because of an Airport Authority is celebrating the addition of a new route. Ridiculous, IMO.

losername Oct 25, 2013 2:24 PM

I have boycotted using Air Canada at any cost for the past 10 years, absolutely the worst airline out there. I recommend everyone to avoid using them.

davidivivid Oct 25, 2013 2:45 PM

Construction of the new multi-level parking going ahead nicely.


http://revenco.ca/img//AIQ-STAT/AERO1.JPG

http://revenco.ca/description.php?id=65

Dirt_Devil Oct 25, 2013 3:24 PM

^^ Thanks David

Cool picture, I am flying out of YQB next wednesday so I'll be able to see this by myself.

The_Architect Oct 25, 2013 3:33 PM

Edit: nevermind, answered.

davidivivid Oct 25, 2013 8:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirt_Devil (Post 6315505)
^^ Thanks David

Cool picture, I am flying out of YQB next wednesday so I'll be able to see this by myself.

And perhaps take some pics from a better vantage point!! :cheers:

YOWflier Oct 25, 2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by losername (Post 6315418)
I have boycotted using Air Canada at any cost for the past 10 years, absolutely the worst airline out there.

We disagree with you.

Signed,

The travellers of North America

http://www.worldairlineawards.com/aw...3/namerica.htm
http://www.worldairlineawards.com/Aw...2/namerica.htm
http://www.worldairlineawards.com/Aw...irline2011.htm
http://www.worldairlineawards.com/Aw...irline2010.htm

Dirt_Devil Oct 25, 2013 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidivivid (Post 6315869)
And perhaps take some pics from a better vantage point!! :cheers:

I'll try but I'm flying at night !! ;)

Echoes Oct 28, 2013 7:29 PM

More photos of the Saskatoon terminal expansion:


craneSpotter Oct 28, 2013 7:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echoes (Post 6318521)
More photos of the Saskatoon terminal expansion:

Nice looking little airport! Good job. Was a little cramped last time I went trough there.

craneSpotter Nov 1, 2013 7:46 PM

The Fort McMurray airport expansion is very interesting. I had no idea the airport was growing so fast ... It has just been designated an official point of entry to Canada by the CBSA. This year it got daily non-stop service to Denver and there is speculation Chicago will be added soon. It also has non-stop daily service to Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton and Calgary

For those that don't know, YMM is currently undergoing a 258 million dollar expansion to increase the terminal size to 5x that of the current. Here are some facts for the expansion and the airport from the Fort McMurray Airport Authority:

- YMM is the fastest growing airport in Canada with a passenger growth rate of 29% year to date

- In 2012, YMM served over 958,000 passengers

- Approximately just over 1.2 million passengers are expected in 2013! (passing YQR??)

- expansion will include new commercial and light industrial developable lands on-airport

- It will accommodate over 1.5 million passengers

- 16 retail and food and beverage outlets and other amenities

- Business lounge

- Over 2,300 parking stalls with power

- 4 airbridges and 8 aircraft parking stands

- Feature a connected 4-star hotel (Opening 2015)

How will this growth affect the other Alberta airports YYC/YEG?? Will they see less connecting traffic or will it just augment growth to those airports?

craneSpotter Nov 1, 2013 7:58 PM

Have these been posted already ??? Oh well - Some photos/renderings on the Fort McMurray expansion from the architect OMB-Mcfarlane Biggar:

http://www.officemb.ca/wp-content/up...2/06/04_fm.jpg

http://www.officemb.ca/wp-content/up...3/09/07_fm.jpg

http://www.officemb.ca/wp-content/up...3/09/06_fm.jpg

http://www.officemb.ca/wp-content/up...3/09/13_fm.jpg

http://www.officemb.ca/wp-content/up...3/09/12_fm.jpg

http://www.officemb.ca/wp-content/up...3/09/16_fm.jpg

chris Nov 2, 2013 6:01 AM

How is growth at Grande Prairie airport going compared to YMM?

isaidso Nov 2, 2013 6:43 AM

I love the wood in that Ft. Mac airport expansion. It's a welcome change from the generic sterility of most Canadian airports. Btw, would 29% PAX growth vault it past Billy Bishop in Toronto?

jmt18325 Nov 2, 2013 1:42 PM

Air Canada is the best airline I've flown on in NA, for sure...Westjet just gets tiring. I sure wish they'd do something about Wifi in this country though.


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