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Originally Posted by Hudson11 (Post 6871563)

In some alternate skyscraper fantasy world of mine, a spired supertall would be in the place of this building instead of an epic 800' box. It ruined the slim tower composition of Downtown, blocking 40 Wall Street and 20 Exchange Place from the view from the north.

Well, if that had been the case, we likely would never have gotten the World Trade Center.

Yeah, I don't approve of this name change either. Cheesy!

Ultimately all of these changes / upgrades are for the better - I'm just glad the building was landmarked. The name change is 'whatever' . . . call it what you want.

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6872076)

Well, if that had been the case, we likely would never have gotten the World Trade Center.

possibly. Or maybe they would have put up a single Yamasaki tower. Though I don't like playing the revisionist historian...

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Originally Posted by Hudson11 (Post 6872377)

possibly. Or maybe they would have put up a single Yamasaki tower. Though I don't like playing the revisionist historian...

No, you just like conjuring up some fantasy world, clearly more relevant.

The name change is a joke though. Part of a landmark's identity is in the name. "Chase Manhattan Plaza" is legendary. "28 Liberty Street" could be anywhere in anytown USA.

I'm glad to hear that the building is getting mechanical upgrades and such..but NYguy is right- that new name could be stuck to any old building. Chase Manhattan Plaza deserves better!

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6872637)

it was meant to be a joke, but ok. I like the building, I just don't like where it's placed. And I agree, I doubt any New Yorker or anyone familiar with the building will be calling it 28 Liberty.

my grandfather worked there for awhile.

OMFG, is that G-man in one of those photos?? : P

Owner Set to Roll Out Chase Manhattan Plaza Overhaul

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...0311185544.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...0311184440.jpg

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Chinese company Fosun International Ltd., which bought the landmarked One Chase Manhattan Plaza from JP Morgan Chase for $725 million in December of 2013, is present its proposed renovation of the iconic building to the public for the first time this evening, at a Community Board 1 meeting. But ahead of that, the Wall Street Journal has published a couple renderings, which were drawn up by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, as well as some details of the planned overhaul. Fosun plans to put between $100 million and $200 million into a thorough overhaul of the tower and the plaza, adding more than 175,000 square feet of retail space, including 130,000 square feet three levels below ground. Fosun wants to replace the black granite at the base of the building with glass storefronts (naturally) and add a bunch of new entrances. More details should become available soon.

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http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2015/0...a_overhaul.php

This is a Landmarked building. I thought they cant change a thing short of emergency repairs.

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Originally Posted by The North One (Post 6916567)

OMFG, is that G-man in one of those photos?? : P

More like Dragnet meets Mad Men in those photos 2 me.

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Originally Posted by Pete8680 (Post 7083357)

This is a Landmarked building. I thought they cant change a thing short of emergency repairs.

They're just replacing some of the black granite at the base with glass storefronts. I think it preserves enough of the original architecture to make it past preservation issues.

Current black granite:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...06_634x407.jpg

Chase Manhattan Plaza, Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, Triborough Bridge, 6th Avenue... They can try to change these names but no one has to use them. It has been a long time since Chrysler was on Lexington Ave, but we haven't stopped calling it that...

Owner of former 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza tower to woo retailers with glassy entryways

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pb...y-St.&maxw=640

http://s14.therealdeal.com/trd/up/20...rty-Street.jpg

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Chinese investment firm Fosun received city approval to create 200,000 square feet of retail space beneath 28 Liberty Street, the Financial District office tower formerly known as 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza. The Shanghai-based firm won permission Tuesday from the Landmarks Preservation Commission to create entrances at 28 Liberty Street’s plaza that will connect the street level to five below-ground floors that it plans to lease to retail tenants. Fosun also got permission to cut out portions of the 60-story, 2.2 million-square-foot tower’s black marble façade, which will enable the installation of glass retail storefronts at the property. The company is looking to fill three of 28 Liberty Street’s five below-ground floors, with JP Morgan Chase – from which Fosun acquired the building for $725 million in 2013 – currently using two of the floors for back-office functions, according to Crain’s. The approvals will enable Fosun to create revenue from the vacant and windowless underground floors. Developer Harry Macklowe was among the first to capitalize on such lower-level retail redevelopment when he brought Apple to the space beneath the plaza at the GM Building in Midtown, which Macklowe owned at the time.

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http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...retailers-with
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2015/08/....fTMzI6xE.dpuf

I had no idea the building was this tall!

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Originally Posted by jayden (Post 7121754)

I had no idea the building was this tall!

Before the Twin Towers rose This building dominated Downtown.