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Once the Tollway builds access ramps over the UP rail line there, the city is prepared to build a parking lot and screening facility for employees only (probably with a bus connection to terminals, hangars and other facilities). https://www.dailyherald.com/news/202...burban-driving |
^ Itsa massive crazy project. Simultaneously running an international airport that is one of the busiest in both categories of Pax AND Cargo, reconfiguring And adding new terminals AND runways, building new control towers, realigning multiple rail lines AND rail yards, rebuilding AND adding new tollways on ALL sides. Adding a new western access that includes new local roadways AND utilities.
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Terminal 5 Expansion Completion Date (Theory)
I think I have a new theory for when the Terminal 5 expansion will be completed.
So you know how Delta currently operates out of Terminal 2, but usually only uses regional jets, A220s, and Boeing 717s because the gates they have are only for smaller aircraft? Well, once Delta moves to Terminal 5, they will have access to bigger gates that can support bigger narrow bodies and even a gate for a wide body. This image below shows Terminal 5 after renovations, and all of the orange planes represent Delta's new gates. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8b41b2c2_h.jpg So I went on Google Flights and played around with dates, and noticed that Delta started switching the regional jets, B717s and A220s with A319s, A320s, B737s, and even a decent amount of A321s staring June 5th. Even the short routes like Minneapolis show that the regional jets have been switched to bigger aircraft. So I wonder if by then, the Terminal 5 expansion will be complete and Delta would've moved there so that they have gates to operate the bigger narrow bodies. So could June 5th be the target completion date for the Terminal 5 expansion? |
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https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...postcount=3004 It is pretty much impossible to complete construction on such a massive, complex project in a little over 2 months. |
Yeah Delta is just upguaging for heightened summer demand once more and more people are vaccinated. T5 expansion isn't going to done in a few months.
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Does anyone know if any of the Tollway/CDOT/CDA has ever released info regarding the estimated number of average daily vehicle trips to O'Hare but broken down by origin points? |
Is there any chance the Blue Line gets extended to Schaumburg as part of West-side access?
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I see Blue Line access out to Schaumburg as practically useless. A ride from Woodfield to downtown Chicago would take well over an hour in such a scenario. At that point, any trains from the Schaumburg Metra beat it in terms of travel time. Granted that Schaumburg Metra isn't anywhere near Woodfield but oh well. Then there would still be a good many last-mile trips to Schauburgs auto-centric hell office buildings and retail. Thereby adding to the trip time. Meanwhile draining the CTA of valuable fuel and operations dollars to extend another 8 miles from O'Hare to Schaumburg. I see very little benefit for the city or even the metro as a whole.
With the possible southern extension of the Red Line being the exception the limits of the CTA should be regarded as established in my opinion. Focus on further inter-CTA connectivity and build-out. |
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What about Southwest Airlines and Frontier Airlines???? Will they ever stay at T5? They don't have enough gate space available. |
I believe the general concept is to put United, American, and their partners at T123 and exile everyone else to T5. That is dependent on completion of the T2 Global Terminal however.
Here's a rendering I found of the T5 parking garage: https://www.flychicago.com/SiteColle...reachEvent.pdf |
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Is it also safe to assume that KLM, Air France, Aeroméxico and Korean Air will continue to operate out of T5 since they are members of the SkyTeam Alliance. |
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The best thing is to keep investing in the I-90 bus system and add bus lanes/proper shelters like the Pulse routes where the buses diverge from the highway. While we’re at it, how about moving the Schaumburg bus terminal onto mall property instead of 1/2 mile away across a major arterial? |
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Delta will gain access to their own wide body capable gate when they move to T5, so that definitely leaves the possibility for them to offer international flights. Delta in fact used to have a seasonal international flight from Chicago to Paris. The only problem though is that ORD isn't one of their hubs or even focus cities, and they've instead chosen DTW and MSP for their midwest hubs. I hope that Delta at least makes ORD a focus city because in my opinion, they are missing out in one of the world's largest aviation markets. |
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With Alaska Airlines joining the Oneworld Alliance, does that mean Alaska with operate out of T3 as well? |
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As always the key will be what planning accompany's it. If you just run a heavy transit line through strip mall parking lots, you will never see ridership. If the adjoining suburbs take it upon themselves and an oppurtunity to increase residential density (and therefore tax base) in areas that are already very high denisty commercial uses, then it could work fantastically. There are a number of suburbs encouraging the "Texas Donut" style construction of dense, 4-5 floor, apartment blocks. If you put a few dozen of those along that 8 mile stretch, it could go a long ways in making areas West of O'Hare significantly more vibrant and pedestrian oriented. |
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2xxMeSU...jpg&name=large BTW as mentioned in a previous post by normarandlee, the satellite concourses are being designed by SOM while the Global Terminal is designed by StudioORD. The above picture shows StudioORD's concourses, so the actual concourses will probably look different. There are no pictures of SOM's concourses yet, but I'm assuming they'll look something like this: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9f731d7f_c.jpg |
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