Given its location, they need an architect group that understands NY. That folks... is SHoP. I'd put my money that if you want a tower that will not only fit in for area, but complement the jewel that is Chrysler, they need to call in the professionals. Not BIG Group, sure as hell not Kaufman or Sam Chang Group, not Vinoly, hell... not even AM Stern... nope... call the SHoP gurus.
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I would like SHoP, especially where it concerns the Chrysler. But all of these firms are supposed to be able to step up to the job. We'll see what we get. It will be closely watched, that's for sure. |
Personally I find it silly that this building should have to show deference to a 90yr old building. The Chrysler building had its time in the sun. Allow progress to move forward and let other buildings take over the spotlight.
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If it were any other old tower, sure. This is the Chrysler Building we're talking about. It is beloved, and it deserves a higher degree of protection. Any other city would have view corridors up the ass for an icon like this.
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I can't tell if you actually think that would have been a possibility. Are you being serious? That being said, I'm not sure what this adulation of SHoP is all about. Yes, they're a top notch architecture firm and have been on a role with some impressive high profile projects, especially here in NY, but there are many eminently brilliant and qualified architects that could handle such a delicate task and premier location. |
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I would put the Chrysler Building as one of the most recognized skyline icons in New York, but even the Empire State Building doesn't have protected view corridors. The Chrysler Building still will be visible from most angles anyway, regardless of whatever gets built here. However, we would hope that it's something that lives up to the iconic nature of the Chrysler Buildng, not to mention One Vanderbilt itself will be something of a skyline icon in its own right. Whatever is built here should be something that would bridge the two. The Chrysler Building is nearly 90 years old, as old as the ESB and more of the classic skyscrapers Downtown like 40 Wall and 70 Pine Street. Even the Woolworth is still an icon after all these years and loss of dominance. No amount of new buildings around them will diminish that. In the case of the Chrysler Building, you actually need something much taller so the towers won't cancel each other out. This building is also surrounded on all sides by designated landmarks, so there will be a lot of discussion about what goes up here. Also, they're planning to put a new Hyatt here, which would probably be for the upper floors. That would give eye popping views of the Chrysler Buildng. http://a4.pbase.com/o11/06/102706/1/...CZzUbuB.g1.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o11/06/102706/1/...PNIKAKk.g4.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o11/06/102706/1/...F6v8Um.g10.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o11/06/102706/1/...8MfpVR.g13.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o11/06/102706/1/...7ST8By.g15.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o11/06/102706/1/...i8mWqC.g16.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o11/06/102706/1/...8vzGcq.g18.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o11/06/102706/1/...tZ9syY.g20.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o11/06/102706/1/...07E073.g22.JPG |
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It would he equally sad to build something in front and completely blocking Eiffel Tower. I’m happy this is being built but hopefully it tapers. |
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I don't think this new building on it's own will completely overwhelm it, but we also need to remember the Pfizer site one block east- also in planning phases for a big new development. We might see the Chrysler building really start to get hemmed in on both sides. That site is likely more impactful because it has the potential to block the view from queens- an iconic view of this building. |
There will be a lot of scrutiny on this tower. The developers understand that they will need to get this approved.
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Tishman Speyer and Abu Dhabi will likely be watching this closely as they attempt to sell off the Chrysler Building. A hulking tower across the street would lessen its value as a trophy asset.
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The only negative from the Chrysler's perspective is a few potential impacted views from the highest floors, but that's happening anyways. |
NYC is so damn lucky. Another possible supertall. I am sick with jealousy but congrats anyway.
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I don't know how people feel about what type of design should go here, whether it should be a very tall tower, or whether it should fall somewhere in the middle between Chrysler and Vanderbilt. But looking at the site, and the programming, I'm guessing it will be higher than Vandy. So, from just that standpoint alone, what type of tower should rise here? Should it be a box? I say no, especially with the Chase tower and the proposed Tower Fifth looking to move on the skyline.
I think this will be a slender (not like the superslim towers on 57th) tower that either steps back or is tapered as it rises. How it meets the street level is a real question, but I'm guessing it could be set back from 42nd Street or Lexington Ave, possibly saving more of the profile of the Chrysler Building. I'm just throwing out some random designs, maybe someone will photoshop them onto the site to give us an idea of how a tower of some height would fit in basically... Skyneedle https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f8/9e/49/f...kyscrapers.jpg https://www.pinterest.com/pin/441845413423364383/ https://graphics.chicagotribune.com/.../skyneedle.jpg https://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...htmlstory.html International Center https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1...wsOVAgDNA8DCww https://kultura.onet.pl/sztuka/700-m...hinach/60q6reh Greenland Tower https://architectureprize.com/submit...341QvwxPSb.jpg https://architectureprize.com/winner...er.php?id=2853 |
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Here is an overview from Google Maps... the red boxes over the One Vanderbilt site and the Grand Hyatt site are the exact same size, and area in green is the extra lot area that the Grand Hyatt takes up relative to One Vanderbilt. Looks to be about 20% larger, perhaps
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That would be a good spot for the plaza. The view of the Chrysler would be great. Or maybe they will recess the building back from 42nd, aligning it with Grand Central and opening up the views more.
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My thinking is that they could do something here like was done at One Vanderbilt, exposing Grand Central to more views...
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That piece of junk does not belong between two of New York's iconic landmarks.
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