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Cage Jul 26, 2017 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 7876525)
Even more surprising is YVRs falloff in Transborder numbers, I thought those would have stayed more constant as a lot of that is business traffic.

YVR transborder still gets a huge boost in Q3 from Alaskan cruise business. While the cruise market has declined over the past 15 years, its still a sizeable chunk of business.

LeftCoaster Jul 27, 2017 9:08 PM

Ya I would have thought the Whistler bump in the winter would have counteracted that a bit but clearly it's not of the same magnitude.

thenoflyzone Jul 28, 2017 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfTowner (Post 7875922)
compared Melbourne to Montreal.

All this talk of Montreal and Melbourne......Seems Melbourites(?) (Melburnians?) want something Montrealers have.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...urne-1.4223296

They even named their joint after a Montreal neighborhood.

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Originally Posted by wave46 (Post 7876579)
I'm wondering if that's because the Quebec market alternates between sun vacations in the winter (like most of Canada) and European getaways in the summer

Absolutely. There is no denying that.

OutOfTowner Jul 28, 2017 6:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7877955)
All this talk of Montreal and Melbourne......Seems Melbourites(?) (Melburnians?) want something Montrealers have.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...urne-1.4223296

They even named their joint after a Montreal neighborhood.



Absolutely. There is no denying that.

Melburnians, and most Melburnians will refer to their city simply as.. Melbs!

It's a beautiful city, you should all go there sometime.

Something I forgot to mention in my initial rant is that Melbourne is a no curfew airport - flights can takeoff and land 24/7 whereas Trudeau (like most Canadian airports) bans heavy planes between midnight and 7am (1am for landings).

They will dig the bagels, that's right up their (numerous) alley(s)!

Melbourne's alleys are fantastic, and for those who don't understand anything and who feel the need to label everything, the label 'European' is often applied.

They're not at all European though, they're just 'Melburnian'.

We could learn a lot, but they're not New York so.. no pressing need to mimic.

p_xavier Jul 28, 2017 1:12 PM

http://www.admtl.com/sites/default/f...presse-ANG.pdf

Total growth of 9.1% YoY for YUL in June, 11% for the second quarter.

SkahHigh Jul 28, 2017 1:19 PM

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Originally Posted by d_jeffrey (Post 7878300)
http://www.admtl.com/sites/default/f...presse-ANG.pdf

Total growth of 9.1% YoY for YUL in June, 11% for the second quarter.

8.6% yearly growth

http://www.manbunhairstyle.net/wp-co...ng-not-bad.jpg
manbunhairstyle

Airboy Jul 28, 2017 3:02 PM

YFB I know most of you will never get to this one, but it is worth planning a trip north.

This has taken a lot of work but it finally gets to open.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/...soon-1.4224984

I might get back up on another project in a couple of years.

G.S MTL Jul 28, 2017 5:10 PM

Great increase for YUL ... should be at 18 million + for 2017

nname Jul 28, 2017 9:24 PM

airberlin to start YYZ-DUS on May 1, 2018

http://ir.airberlin.com/en/press/pre...ghts-to-Canada

yyzer Jul 28, 2017 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nname (Post 7878851)
airberlin to start YYZ-DUS on May 1, 2018

http://ir.airberlin.com/en/press/pre...ghts-to-Canada

Nice! Hopefully will be a daytime arrival.... :cheers:

thenoflyzone Jul 29, 2017 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nname (Post 7878851)
airberlin to start YYZ-DUS on May 1, 2018

http://ir.airberlin.com/en/press/pre...ghts-to-Canada

Wish them the best of luck. LH couldn't succeed on the route. Let's see how AB does.

yyzer Jul 29, 2017 2:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7878991)
Wish them the best of luck. LH couldn't succeed on the route. Let's see how AB does.

LH moved all their North American long haul ops out of DUS to MUC... that's why they operate MUC-YYZ today instead...

FRA-YYZ is still their primary flight of course..

Now we just need a German carrier to fly TXL-YYZ... :)

yyzer Jul 29, 2017 2:28 AM

Few more YYZ news items...

Westjet are adding an additional 55 flights per week to YYZ this winter...

https://www.meetingscanada.com/westj...ronto-pearson/

Danish carrier Primera Air possibly planning BHX-YYZ for next year... this has been reported on a few sites..

ttp://www.anna.aero/2017/07/27/primera-air-gears-join-low-cost-long-haul-transatlantic-market/

Rumours of Air Ukraine returning to YYZ with 777s in 2018...

http://www.rusaviainsider.com/ukrain...y-fleet-plans/

Finally, Interjet of Mexico operated their first flight into YYZ today...

DrNest Jul 31, 2017 8:26 PM

Flying through CYVR the other day I saw BA's A380 at the gate and it got me thinking; if Air Canada were to place orders for A380s, which routes would they use them on?

Purely hypothetical, but I would speculate Montreal-Paris, Toronto-Heathrow, and Vancouver-Shanghai/Beijing as potential routes. Maybe even Toronto-Vancouver. Any other suggestions?

TorontoDrew Jul 31, 2017 8:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 7880954)
Flying through CYVR the other day I saw BA's A380 at the gate and it got me thinking; if Air Canada were to place orders for A380s, which routes would they use them on?

Purely hypothetical, but I would speculate Montreal-Paris, Toronto-Heathrow, and Vancouver-Shanghai/Beijing as potential routes. Maybe even Toronto-Vancouver. Any other suggestions?


Well I know British Airways already does Vancouver Heathrow with an A380 so I could see Air Canada doing that route as well. Are the Emirates the only airline with a regular A380 route to Toronto?

DrNest Jul 31, 2017 8:36 PM

Yes, it's just Emirates bringing the A380 into Toronto as of now. I had heard rumours that BA would use on the Heathrow route too, but that was just rumours, and as far as I know nothing solid planned.

SignalHillHiker Jul 31, 2017 8:57 PM

Anecdote... I'm not sure if this is not clear in their boarding passes, but I suspect it is and they're just not reading them well enough.

So far this summer I have received phone calls from groups of relatives on three separate flights (most recent was this evening) from Toronto to Dublin. They had hours-long layovers in St. John's that they didn't know were happening so they could only phone - hey! Come pick us up for an hour! - last minute. It's the WestJet direct flight from St. John's to Dublin when it leaves here.

Canadian74 Aug 1, 2017 3:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 7880954)
Flying through CYVR the other day I saw BA's A380 at the gate and it got me thinking; if Air Canada were to place orders for A380s, which routes would they use them on?

Purely hypothetical, but I would speculate Montreal-Paris, Toronto-Heathrow, and Vancouver-Shanghai/Beijing as potential routes. Maybe even Toronto-Vancouver. Any other suggestions?

YVR-HKG
YYZ-HKG
YYZ-FRA

have potential too I think

But in AC's config the A380 would have 600+ seats, which is just too much.

AC can already fill 450 in their 777s - I think that's good enough for them. If they want something larger they are more likely to get the 777-9X in a few years

jmt18325 Aug 1, 2017 4:09 AM

Traffic in Winnipeg up 8.8% in Q2:

http://www.waa.ca/media/news/article...uarter-results

wave46 Aug 1, 2017 1:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 7880991)
Anecdote... I'm not sure if this is not clear in their boarding passes, but I suspect it is and they're just not reading them well enough.

So far this summer I have received phone calls from groups of relatives on three separate flights (most recent was this evening) from Toronto to Dublin. They had hours-long layovers in St. John's that they didn't know were happening so they could only phone - hey! Come pick us up for an hour! - last minute. It's the WestJet direct flight from St. John's to Dublin when it leaves here.

Westjet does have a flight that runs from Toronto-Dublin via St. John's on a 737 - WS 16/17. But the scheduled layover on each leg is only ~2 hours at St. John's.

Westjet doesn't have non-stop transatlantic service outside of London-Gatwick from Toronto. All their flights to Dublin and Glasgow have to make a stop at St. John's or Halifax.

Now, maybe your relatives are taking the earlier flight to St. John's? It would seem odd though - usually the airline tries to minimize the layover time. :shrug:


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