Block 23
Here is a new thread for everything occuring on Block 23. :)
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Thanks Obadno! Great enlarged pic! I haven’t seen it that way. More impressive!!!
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Has it ever been determined if these are the final renderings or is it possible that they will go higher with the residential? With all the activity and demand downtown, you'd think at least 20 stories wouldn't be out of the question.
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I found a massing diagram of a taller office section and I would guess thats the best we can hope for. http://dtphx.org/wp-content/uploads/...nt-webcrop.png As you can see from the diagram, the building is only about 15 stories but it has high ceilings. In the original (and from what we know probable) massing the building is only 4 floors but its as tall as the 9 story office building across the street because of its 15 foot ceilings. In this massing above its more like 15 stories with the equivalent height of a ~25 story office building for the same reason. Im hoping, with the continued downtown demand and shrinking office vacancy, Red takes the risk of developing a larger office building. Considering they finished citiscape in 2009 during the depression, they might see the stronger economic forecast and take a risk on this. |
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Anyone remember when CityScape was new, and they built a temporary sales office? It was located where the dirt has been removed in the second picture that fawd took.
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Bit of a delay because they found an old foundation on the site and are preserving it for photographs prior to proceeding.
https://i.imgur.com/NEJZIwI.jpg |
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Also, will depending on how deep they dig be telling of how tall the office portion of the project will be? |
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It's going to be nice to see that nasty parking lot disappear forever. I gotta say that this project has really grown on me. At first, I wasn't happy with the height but it's going to have an awesome street presence if built like what we see in the renderings with the buildings spanning across the whole lot like that. Much nicer than cityscape.
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The larger massing was shown to the City to show that the office portion is being built to sustain future height.
This is essentially a 20-story residential tower with a block-wide podium; even that tower is unattractive given how wide it is. The worst part is the ground floor plan, though. 90% of 1st St and Jefferson will be dead walls from the Fry's, where shallow retail bays could have been placed to integrate it and make it, well, urban. The space along Jefferson and 2nd st for residential amenities is also out of place with Colliers and TSA next door. |
Tonight Fox 10 News at 9 is doing a story tonight on the artifacts found so far during the archeology dig so far.
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Fry’s in Downtown Phoenix breaking ground in April
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With a new very moody rendering: http://azbigmedia.com/wp-content/upl...apartments.jpg |
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For anyone who wanted an update on the archaeological dig occuring at Block 23:
http://www.azfamily.com/story/350381...autostart=true Interesting stuff... |
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