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Ramako Jan 11, 2013 9:20 PM

The Great Canadian Heritage Restoration Thread
 
The_Architect's post in the re-clad thread (quoted below) inspired me to start this thread. Let's see your city's best restorations of heritage buildings. Post pictures of what they looked like when they were built, as they were during the "dark times" and what they look like now.


Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Architect (Post 5969283)
Toronto recently had this restoration/reclad at Queen and Bathurst. The old Reverb/Kathedral/Big Bop music venue (where I actually played a couple times).

Before:

http://wegowego.com/events/images/00...1/IMG00453.jpg
Sauce.

and After:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...April_2012.jpg
More sauce.

I'm personally torn because I loved playing there and it was a good part of my life, but the reclad is definitely good for the building and the area. Looks much better.

Bonus, tiny picture, but this is what the building originally looked like. Shame it lost the roof:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ndBathurst.jpg
I like alfredo sauce personally.


Martin Mtl Jan 11, 2013 10:06 PM

Great idea for a thread.

Here's a recent one. This victorian building sits at the corner of Des Pins and Saint-Laurent. It was in such a bad state that I was sure it was not possible to save it. Then the city obliged the owner to do something about it and voilà !

The original

http://projetmontreal.org/wp-content...29_750x500.jpg
Source: projet Montreal

Before the restoration

http://images.lpcdn.ca/641x427/20110...nord-ouest.jpg
Source: La Presse

After the restoration

http://montrealrealestateblog.com/wp...-stLaurent.jpg
Source: Montreal RE blog

Ramako Jan 11, 2013 10:16 PM

The Dineen Building at Yonge & Temperance:



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...phy/bizcaf.jpg
From thecharioteer at Urban Toronto



Here it is on the left:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...568_it0311.jpg
From thecharioteer at Urban Toronto



And again on the left:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...057_it8938.jpg
From thecharioteer at Urban Toronto



How it looked from Google Street View just a few years ago. I was sure that it was going to either collapse or be demolished:

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default...6839-22592.jpg
From Urban Toronto



And here it is today:

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default...6839-22580.jpg
By: Craig White at Urban Toronto



Learn more here:

A Breath of Fresh Air for the Historic Dineen Building on Yonge
The Dineen Building Opens For Business
Urban Toronto project thread

caltrane74 Jan 11, 2013 10:40 PM

I see subway construction in one of those pictures...

Must be getting ready for the Yonge line..

MTLskyline Jan 11, 2013 11:54 PM

Those are some fantastic restorations in Toronto. I especially like the moldings around the roofline.

MTLskyline Jan 11, 2013 11:57 PM

This one was not quite as far gone, but it was a good restoration nonetheless.

3414 Stanley (2009-2012)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8493/8...dc40b824_b.jpg
Photo: Guillaume St-Jean
http://www.flickr.com/photos/guil343...in/photostream

MTLskyline Jan 12, 2013 12:11 AM

Godin Building, corner Saint-Laurent and Sherbrooke. Built in 1914-1915 by Joseph-Arthur Godin. It is one of the few Art Nouveau buildings in Montreal. It was classified as a heritage building in 1990 by the Quebec government. Unfortunatley I don't have any pictures of when the building was new.

2003
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5007/5...255294e6_b.jpg
Montreal May 2003 by Montreal Photo Chick, on Flickr

2006
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1002/1...7ed12c5c_b.jpg
Godin Building by designwallah, on Flickr

2003-2006
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/149/39...776_z.jpg?zz=1
2003-2006 by guil3433, on Flickr

Martin Mtl Jan 12, 2013 12:36 AM

St-James church on Ste-Catherine.

From wikipedia: When it was built in June 1889, it was the largest Methodist church in Canada, with 2,000 seats; it was nicknamed the "Cathedral Church of Methodism." In 1927, to cover upkeep costs, the church permitted a commercial building to be built in front of its Sainte Catherine Street façade. The building, adjoining the church's structure, concealed the church for over 78 years, the church itself being announced by a large neon sign.

In 2005, as part of an $8-million restoration effort sponsored by the city of Montreal and the Quebec government, a portion of the commercial buildings were demolished, once again revealing the facade of the church, lovely restored to its former glory.

The original

http://www.mccord-museum.qc.ca/ObjView/v2532.jpg
Source: McCord museum

From 1927 to 2005:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BjoQ-lPQ3z.../s640/sjuc.jpg
Source: Vanishing Montreal

Today:

http://redandr.ca/photo/city/img/Sai...(Montreal).jpg
Source

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/52/142...983a6f18_o.jpg
By blork on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8024/7...5f30d4db_b.jpg
By aljuarez on Flickr

lake of the nations Jan 12, 2013 12:52 AM

The Paton Factory was built in 1866. In 1871, it was Canada's second largest factory.

http://tolkien2008.files.wordpress.c...30-1868_av.jpg
ETRC

115 years after its opening, it closed.

http://www.icomos.org/~fleblanc/publ...ton_before.jpg
François LeBlanc

It has now become a mixed-use building. Unfortunately, the small tower you can see on the first picture has not been rebuilt.

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...m/21370544.jpg
Mario Hains

Martin Mtl Jan 12, 2013 1:02 AM

Southam building. An old printing building left to rot for many years and just recently restored and turn into condos.

Before

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5303/5...358ae2f5_b.jpg
By johnbrycedavidson on Flickr

http://www.southamlofts.com/DATA/NOUVELLE/7.jpg
Source: Southam lofts

After

http://www.southamlofts.com/gx/05/so...m_building.jpg
Source: Southam lofts

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7248/7...8822141e_c.jpg
Southam Building 6 new by johnbrycedavidson, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7113/6...54cc0c13_c.jpg
Southam Building 7 new by johnbrycedavidson, on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7192/6...f878bd6f_c.jpg
Southam Building 9 new by johnbrycedavidson, on Flickr[/QUOTE]

lio45 Jan 12, 2013 2:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramako (Post 5969905)

Absolutely fantastic restoration! Thanks for sharing!!

someone123 Jan 12, 2013 5:14 AM

The Toronto building's interesting. I remember walking by that building many times. It was depressing looking and I expected it would just be torn down someday, but now it looks great. Hopefully the same thing will happen when they build condos above the old abandoned bank buildings across from the Eaton Centre. Toronto should put a lot of effort into protecting buildings like that. There aren't many left, and the amount of money required is pretty small given the scale of the modern city.

SignalHillHiker Jan 12, 2013 5:22 AM

Very few of our commercial heritage buildings have been destroyed. Those that have been changed at all have typically been completely destroyed and replaced by modern construction.

However, our residential heritage buildings have gone through many changes. The ornate woodwork of the original construction was often lost to renovations over the years as it's expensive to replicate. However, now heritage protection laws require any new renovations to return these old homes to an authentic state.

Here is one such example. The rowhouse on the right has been recently renovated. The one on the left was probably renovated in the 1940s-1960s.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8...ba17f643_b.jpg
Authentic? by Signal Hill Hiker Photography, on Flickr

One of the more famous ones is the house in Republic of Doyle. I used to have a picture of how it looked originally as well as immediately before its most recent renovation. In the 1960s they renovated it to have giant, foot-wide wooden panels for siding. It was awful. But I lost those pictures in the transition to a new computer.

Ramako Jan 12, 2013 6:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 5970362)
The Toronto building's interesting. I remember walking by that building many times. It was depressing looking and I expected it would just be torn down someday, but now it looks great. Hopefully the same thing will happen when they build condos above the old abandoned bank buildings across from the Eaton Centre. Toronto should put a lot of effort into protecting buildings like that. There aren't many left, and the amount of money required is pretty small given the scale of the modern city.


If you mean these buildings, that's where Massey Tower is going:


http://www.blogto.com/upload/2012/02...wer-Aerial.jpg
From blogTO

entheosfog Jan 12, 2013 7:34 AM

Man, this thread is right up my alley! I'll post some examples, some more may come to mind, but they'll all have corresponding now photos as it's just easier for me to post them that way.

Ok, let's start off with the Carnegie Centre, now a community centre for the downtown eastside but stated out as a library and for many decades was the Vancouver Library's main branch:
under construction:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4074/4...e972738a_z.jpg
Carnegie Centre Construction - 1902/2010 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

1906:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3144/2...64917e97_z.jpg
Hastings and Main - 1906/2008 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

The library moved out in the late '50s when a new building was built and this sat neglected until it was restored and made into a community centre in the early '80s.
1971 and vacant, fate unknown at this point:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4082/4...79f9cb63_z.jpg
Hastings and Main - 1971/2010 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

It just received another facelift recently.
2010:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4101/4...09cac1cc_z.jpg
Carnegie Community Centre by entheos_fog, on Flickr

entheosfog Jan 12, 2013 7:57 AM

The Yale Hotel, built in 1888.
1944:
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2638/4...d490f783_z.jpg
Yale Hotel - 1944/2009 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

1975:
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2668/3...3ec721ab_z.jpg
Yale Hotel - 1975/2009 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

2009:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4057/4...56d0e3a2_z.jpg
Yale Hotel by entheos_fog, on Flickr

This building is currently undergoing a restoration along with a condo tower going up beside it:
http://imageshack.us/a/img844/8672/img1081uj.jpg

entheosfog Jan 12, 2013 8:12 AM

Pennsylvania Hotel (right), built in 1906. The Holden Building is the building under construction, another building brought back to life thanks to a restoration.
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4028/4...7ec9f358_z.jpg
000 Block of East Hastings St - 1910/2010 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

Originally called Woods Hotel, 1908:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4057/4...e863cbaf_z.jpg
Pennsylvania Hotel - 1908/2009 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

1957:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4034/4...a0311c92_z.jpg
SE Corner of Carrall and Hastings St - 1957/2010 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

2001, photo courtesy of Bob_2006 on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobkh/
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2128/1...2cf_z.jpg?zz=1
Pennsylvania Hotel - 1906 by Bob_2006, on Flickr

2009, great new sign and the 'hat' on the turret was remade:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3471/3...e3d4a191_z.jpg
Pennsylvania Hotel by entheos_fog, on Flickr

Holden building details:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6082/6...9ef14ec1_z.jpg
223/365 - Holden Building by entheos_fog, on Flickr

entheosfog Jan 12, 2013 8:30 AM

Salt building, built in 1931:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3240/5...f40a283b_z.jpg
Salt Building - 1933/2011 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

2006, photo courtesy of bob_2006 on Flickr:
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/93/217...7c152f05_z.jpg
Domtar Salt Building - 1931 by Bob_2006, on Flickr

And 2010. This building is situated right in Olympic Village and played a key role in the games. It's still sitting vacant but there's talk of a brew pub or restaurant opening up in here soon:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4119/4...e157861c_z.jpg
Salt Building and Others by entheos_fog, on Flickr

SignalHillHiker Jan 12, 2013 9:36 AM

Wow, Entheosfog. Very impressive. And I LOVE that Salt Building.

1ajs Jan 12, 2013 10:00 AM

http://media.winnipegfreepress.com/i...1_16291659.jpg

Winnipeg Free Press - PRINT EDITION
Red River College's culinary institute open for classes
Main Street is cooking again at the Paterson Global Foods Institute
By: Nick Martin
Posted: 01/10/2013 1:00 AM

Just try to resist the seductive scent of fresh baking wafting throughout the Exchange District and the heart of downtown.
Go ahead -- just try.
And once that smell lures you inside the grandeur of the oldest skyscraper in Winnipeg, what are the chances you won't want to sit amid marble splendour and enjoy fine dining prepared by aspiring chefs whom you can watch and even chat up as they prepare your meal?
Words such as grandeur and splendour haven't been used in the same sentence as Union Bank Tower for a very, very long time.
There's nary a pigeon carcass left in the 1904 skyscraper across the corner from city hall on Main Street.
Officially, it's the Paterson Global Foods Institute, housing the hospitality and culinary arts programs of Red River College and six floors of student residences. The official opening is Feb. 21. But as tradespeople finish the conversion of the enormous banking section into Jane's restaurant, 30 students have already moved into residence and 300 students are in a state-of-the-art school with opulent kitchens spread over several floors, learning everything from how to bake delicate European pastries, to cooking veal and fresh fish, to tasting wine and beer and spirits to see what goes best with a particular dish.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...186271751.html

Andrewjm3D Jan 12, 2013 2:21 PM

Bishop's Block circa 1929
http://tripatlas.com/p/76426/7642638...fae109.jpg.jpg
Taken by: Bryen Dunn http://tripatlas.com/guides/Canada/2...adian_Property

Taken by: TallerBetter of ssp &ssc
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...July172012.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2ShangriLa.jpg

Ramako Jan 12, 2013 7:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewjm3D (Post 5970535)
Bishop's Block circa 1929

I think you meant 1829

someone123 Jan 12, 2013 10:45 PM

It is not done yet but Keith Hall in Halifax is being restored. It was built in 1863 and recently has been in bad shape:

http://historicplaces.ca/hpimages/Th...7494_Large.jpg
Source

Here is what the building looked like in 1942. The mansard roof is going to be restored:

http://www.gov.ns.ca/nsarm/images/Ea.../200903444.jpg
Source

A lot of old details have been lost from buildings like this, but more and more of them are now being restored. Here is an "after" shot of another building across the street that was worked on by the same architectural firm:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3636/3...3589fb2b_b.jpg
Source

Andrewjm3D Jan 13, 2013 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramako (Post 5970808)
I think you meant 1829

lol ya.

1ajs Jan 13, 2013 4:12 AM

Barber house built 1865
2 story oak log house

after all the fires......... and 25yrs of neglect
http://www.pointdouglas.com/plugins/...mages/1532.jpg

after
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6029/5...b05a54ea_b.jpg

SHOFEAR Jan 14, 2013 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by entheosfog (Post 5970457)

That neon sign is fantastic.

The_Architect Jan 14, 2013 4:09 PM

A couple comments.

1. Fantastic idea for a thread, Ramako!

2. Martin Mtl, that post on St. James' Church is fantastic, what a beautiful building. The commercial buildings and neon sign surprisingly enough I don't hate, reminds me of a lot of the old churches sandwiched into the streetscape in London (UK). Obviously with a front like it actually has I prefer the after though.

3. In the pictures of the Dineen Building, is it bad that I actually like the old Yonge Street better? With all the ridiculous signs and obviously all the older buildings. I really like signs for some reason that aren't just a big plastic STORE one. The ones that stick out are awesome.

SteelTown Jan 14, 2013 5:54 PM

Lister Block, downtown Hamilton

Before
http://media.treehugger.com/assets/i...ter20block.jpg
Lloyd Alter
http://www.treehugger.com/sustainabl...ter-block.html

http://media.treehugger.com/assets/i...ister-hall.jpg
Lloyd Alter
http://www.treehugger.com/sustainabl...ter-block.html

Back in the day
http://www.tourismhamilton.com/wp-co...lock-Photo.jpg
Tourism Hamilton
http://www.tourismhamilton.com/touri...e-lister-block

After
http://hamiltonvitalsigns.ca/wp-cont...8756533675.jpg
Christopher Hume
http://hamiltonvitalsigns.ca/learning-to-love-hamilton/

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...O3oIifUalYqsc_
Emma Reilly
http://twitpic.com/5x6bm3

KnoxfordGuy Jan 14, 2013 5:56 PM

This is York House in Fredericton. It was build as a school in the 1890's an then switched hands several times before it started to fall into disrepair. But, someone felt that it could see a new life as condos, and so, the building was saved from the wrecking ball. the church beside it owned it and used it for the community, but after years of ageing they wanted to build new and wanted to pull it down. However, the city did not want to see another landmark fall, so they bought it and the church built an addition down the other side of the block, which looks great too, but I digress. Work started on the building about a year ago and is still ongoing, they had a lot of work to do! Some of the pictures are mind, others are not. The architect that constructed the building also built the legislature, which is also a beautiful building, which itself also when through an extensive restoration outside. Perhaps I will show you tat as well.

This was the school in its prime (picture thanks to Fredericton Haritage Trust):
http://www.heritagefredericton.org/y...0-1-47-939.jpg

Before the work was started on the school (picture from historic places.ca):
http://www.historicplaces.ca/hpimage...7538_Large.jpg

Just this past summer:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7...458bfd2c_b.jpg

The work they have been doing is nothing short of amazing:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8307/8...ddef3d9a_b.jpg

The stone was just black with age, but they gave it a good cleaning (you can see at the bottom of the door frame just how bad it was:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8281/7...5fe3208b_b.jpg

KnoxfordGuy Jan 14, 2013 6:23 PM

The New Brunswick Legislature when through extensive restorations as well. Built in 1880 after a fire burned the previous wooden structure built in 1799:

You can see the copper roof from long ago, was not always white (who ever though of that should be sent to jail hahaha (Picture from New Brunswick archives):
http://archives.gnb.ca/Photos/Historical/P11-36.jpg

Before (picture from wikipedia):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Brunswick.jpg

During the work (picture from the New Brunswick Government website http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/mu...4_2.jpg.html):
http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/m...11-02-14_2.jpg

After the work was done. Doesn't it looks so much more stately? (Picture from Oldmasion on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/httpold.../5613344706/):
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5108/5...766e2334_b.jpg

After the work was done. Leg from the air. (pictures from Fredericton tourism):
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7006/6...92974d57_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7164/6...4ab46d5a_b.jpg

Lights were added to the building for the diamond jubilee of Queen Elizabeth (Photo from Colde Berston at http://coleburston.tumblr.com/post/2...n-at-a-lit-up:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...ehio1_1280.jpg

Chadillaccc Jan 14, 2013 9:02 PM

Fantastic restoration! :) and of a very important building no less!

KnoxfordGuy Jan 14, 2013 10:12 PM

I love New Brunswicks legislature. It doesn't get the attention it needs!

entheosfog Jan 15, 2013 6:12 AM

Another one from Vancouver. This building is located on the once infamous 100 block of west Hastings. Even as late as 2007 most of these building stood abandoned, derelict and ready to be torn down. But ever since the Woodward's project was built across the street, this block is being shown some love. One by one, these buildings are getting restored. I'll post the rest of the block later, but this is the latest to be restored.

1927:
http://imageshack.us/a/img191/2966/a...gat152west.jpg

2007:
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/5905/dscf5343pm.jpg

2013:
http://imageshack.us/a/img84/6153/img1259x.jpg

Rico Rommheim Jan 15, 2013 7:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnoxfordGuy (Post 5972625)
The New Brunswick Legislature when through extensive restorations as well. Built in 1880 after a fire burned the previous wooden structure built in 1799:



http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...ehio1_1280.jpg

Thanks for sharing. The NB legislature deserves a lot more love. Awesome :cheers:

Townie709 Jan 15, 2013 11:32 AM

Wow! These are fantastic!

St. John's is slated for a pretty big restoration of a building downtown to begin this spring. I'm not sure it's old enough to be called heritage, but it's quite the extensive restoration!

This is the current Avalon Telephone Building that has been vacant and left to rot for many years

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/ph...g-20100913.jpg

And this is the approved restoration beginning construction soon

http://www.condosmix.com/wp-content/uploads/1.jpg

kwoldtimer Jan 15, 2013 1:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by entheosfog (Post 5973501)
Another one from Vancouver. This building is located on the once infamous 100 block of west Hastings. Even as late as 2007 most of these building stood abandoned, derelict and ready to be torn down. But ever since the Woodward's project was built across the street, this block is being shown some love. One by one, these buildings are getting restored. I'll post the rest of the block later, but this is the latest to be restored.

1927:
http://imageshack.us/a/img191/2966/a...gat152west.jpg

2007:
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/5905/dscf5343pm.jpg

2013:
http://imageshack.us/a/img84/6153/img1259x.jpg

It looks like they have painted the stone/concrete facade, which normally I don't like, but the building looks good. Do you know if it has tenants lined up or has it been restored on spec?

entheosfog Jan 16, 2013 6:24 AM

I'm not sure what the deal is but there was artist studios on the second level, I believe they'll remain. If this building follows the others on this block, they'll be posting for lease signs for the retail level soon.

Martin Mtl Jan 16, 2013 8:07 PM

Theatre Corona
Build in 1912 and interior redecorated in 1922.

Original
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...62082874_n.jpg
Source: Corona Facebook

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...92686755_n.jpg
Source: Corona Facebook

Before the recent restoration

http://sallesdecinema.files.wordpres...na_570-790.jpg
Source

Now (reopen as Virgin Mobile Corona theatre):

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...24304405_n.jpg
Source: Corona Facebook

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...63205071_n.jpg
Source: Corona Facebook

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...10367886_n.jpg
Source: Corona Facebook

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...56495686_n.jpg
Source: Corona Facebook

http://imageshack.us/a/img217/6158/corona1ra.jpg
Source: sors-tu

http://imageshack.us/a/img560/363/corona3.jpg
Source: sors-tu

entheosfog Jan 17, 2013 8:23 AM

Excellent stuff!

I was going to post some more of the 100 block of west Hastings but before I could post all the pics I pressed the wrong button and it all went away :(
For another day, I suppose.
Anyway, here's another building I forgot about, the Flack Block, built in 1898. Again, I'll use then and now photos, starting with the oldest.

1909:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6...aa22a399_z.jpg
Flack Block from Victory Square - 1909/2011 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

1939. Note the archway, soon to be removed, plus the cornice:
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/4100/f...ambieandha.jpg

1947. Work is being done to 'modernize' the building:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5291/5...eb498662_z.jpg
Flack Block - 1947/2010 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

1969. Archway and cornice are gone in this photo:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3490/3...b4d285fe_z.jpg
Flack Block - 1969/2009 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

It looked similar to this 1971 photo up until its restoration a few years ago:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8342/8...7bfb3e74_z.jpg
Flack Block - 1971/2012 by entheos_fog, on Flickr

Replicated archway (ignore the graffiti):
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3105/2...bed3a03a_z.jpg
Flack Block Entrance by entheos_fog, on Flickr

Detail:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4093/4...155c58ae_z.jpg
Flack Block Detail by entheos_fog, on Flickr

MTLskyline Jan 21, 2013 2:55 AM

Here are a few failed renovations in Montreal... These are the same buildings apparently! :yuck: I don't really think that they can be restored.

5635 Park Ave. (1936-2012)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/7...b81ce40b_b.jpg
1936-2012 by guil3433, on Flickr

Another butchered renovation, again same building - corner St. Catherine and Mackay (1936-2012). It was "renovated" in 1968.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7...7e106c62_b.jpg
1936-2012 by guil3433, on Flickr

Another hatchet job.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3560/3...41ba4db8_b.jpg
1930-2009 by guil3433, on Flickr

Rico Rommheim Jan 21, 2013 3:49 AM

^What? Are you kidding me? I had no idea these were butcherd renos. What a shame. These people responsible...I hope they're proud of themselves. Fucking idiots.

someone123 Jan 21, 2013 3:59 AM

Those make me wonder how many ugly buildings were renovated like that, and how many still hide interesting details. The ones with new masonry walls don't seem likely to have their old facades, but often siding can just be taken off.

There's a similar example in Halifax. Look closely at the front facade and the side wall of the fourth house on the left side; it has a plain 50's-era brick front, but the side is clearly Victorian-era brick with a mansard roof.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6751/barrington.png

This one's got metal siding:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1730/sackville.png

canarob Jan 21, 2013 2:10 PM

Here's a different approach to heritage restoration. When subdivisions are built in Markham, often any existing heritage homes are moved to Markham Heritage Estates, where they're put into a "heritage subdivision." The result sometimes looks a bit odd, but it's great that the homes are saved.

When existing homes can be incorporated into a new neighbourhood, the homes remain in their original location, so there are also a lot of examples of immaculately restored heritage homes within new cookie cutter neighbourhoods.

http://www.hypercube.rannieturingan....4/img_0654.jpg
Source: Rannie Turigan http://www.hypercube.rannieturingan....4/img_0654.jpg

red-paladin Jan 21, 2013 3:04 PM

Those great buildings trashed by the late 20th century renos really get my blood boiling. :(
Speaking of the Flack Block and Woodwards... I really hope that red Asia Imports building (seen in the pictures between the two) is restored / renovated soon. It looks in sad shape.

MTLskyline Jan 21, 2013 4:16 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 5981392)
Those make me wonder how many ugly buildings were renovated like that, and how many still hide interesting details. The ones with new masonry walls don't seem likely to have their old facades, but often siding can just be taken off.

There's a similar example in Halifax. Look closely at the front facade and the side wall of the fourth house on the left side; it has a plain 50's-era brick front, but the side is clearly Victorian-era brick with a mansard roof.

This one's got metal siding:

The second one looks quite restorable. Even if the original brick was ripped off, a quality modern brick might look OK.

MTLskyline Mar 9, 2013 4:07 AM

2011:
http://goo.gl/maps/mqjXL

2012:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8094/8...76b28fe2_b.jpg
Montréal, 02 mars 2013. Coin Nord-Ouest des rues Poupart et Logan. by DubyDub2009, on Flickr

Hali87 Mar 9, 2013 7:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MTLskyline (Post 5981793)
The second one looks quite restorable. Even if the original brick was ripped off, a quality modern brick might look OK.

There's a redevelopment plan for that block which will likely see both of the buildings with red metal siding in the photo with a large brick/glass one.

someone123 Mar 9, 2013 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hali87 (Post 6044087)
There's a redevelopment plan for that block which will likely see both of the buildings with red metal siding in the photo with a large brick/glass one.

I still have no idea if I actually want that to be built or not. If the rendering's to be believed the Granville Street side will be a huge improvement, but buildings don't always come out as advertised, and sometimes they don't happen at all.

Hali87 Mar 9, 2013 7:29 AM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 6044104)
I still have no idea if I actually want that to be built or not. If the rendering's to be believed the Granville Street side will be a huge improvement, but buildings don't always come out as advertised, and sometimes they don't happen at all.

I'm not even sure about that. I think the Granville side looks interesting now and could look fantastic if it were restored or rebuilt to resemble its current form (and the metal cladding on the sides of the building were replaced with, well, anything but vinyl). Other than the storefronts, I actually think the Granville side looks better than the Barrington side (which I think is what will be replicated on both sides in the redevelopment).

someone123 Mar 9, 2013 7:40 AM

I mean that the renderings look better than the current condition. I would prefer a theoretical restoration of all of the buildings, but that doesn't appear to be on the table.

Starfish has done lots of great restoration projects but the Roy building's pretty much been a disaster for years.

Here's their site: http://www.starfishproperties.ca/index.html


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