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Mariobrotha Sep 22, 2008 7:52 PM

Bosa Pacific Hwy at E
 
Here's the Office Depot site:

http://www.ccdc.com/images/propertyI...y%20at%20E.jpg
37 floors, 268 units

I've seen this rendering tossed around for a while, but I never knew where it would be located.

Also, it looks as if though the site for Kettner and Ash is fenced off. I don't know if it's for actual construction on the site, or if it's just a job site for Sapphire right next door. Either way, here's the 35 story building that is supposed to go there-- also another Bosa development:

http://www.ccdc.com/images/propertyI...1for%20web.jpg

kpexpress Sep 23, 2008 1:49 AM

In regards to BOSA, I still think that the development planned for Island and First Ave will add the most to the skyline. At least when looking at the downtown skyline from Coronado.
http://www.ccdc.com/images/propertyI...island_Web.jpg

malsponger Sep 23, 2008 2:45 AM

Ughh had to go down to the border today on the trolley and had completely forgotten about this oddity
http://www.pacificbeacon.com/images/...y/g2_big_1.jpg

What a wreck.

SDCAL Sep 23, 2008 4:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpexpress (Post 3814847)
And does anyone have an update on what is going on with the Navy Pier Complex that Papa Doug is supposed to be redeveloping?

If you mean Navy Broadway Complex, that thing is tied up in so much turmoil and litigation who knows if it will ever get of fthe ground. Last I read, people suing over the outdated environmental impact won in court, so it is probably on appeals now

I thought, however, that Lane Field was a different story - - good to go. Any updates there??

Also the Pei-Cobb tower that the Irvine Co is supposedly building was, I thought, going to start this year

SDCAL Sep 23, 2008 4:33 AM

malsponger, what project is that rendering of? don't recognize it

bmfarley Sep 23, 2008 7:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpexpress (Post 3814847)
"... And does anyone have an update on what is going on with the Navy Pier Complex that Papa Doug is supposed to be redeveloping?

Coincidentally I visited the CCDC page today and noticed an agenda item scheduled to go before their board (9/24). I scanned it and it appears the developer is amending the development proposal to change parking stalls and residential unit composition... more one bedrooms rather than 2 bedrooms. No big substantial changes that I could tell; however, if approved the developer will have a permit open for another 3 years. I could tell that the reviewing planner likes Pier and there will apparently be a small plaza on the southeast corner of the property.

Added 9/23: Ooops, that was for the Pier project at Kettner and Grape in Little Italy... not a "Navy Pier Complex" which I do not seem to recall. New?

kpexpress Sep 23, 2008 8:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDCAL (Post 3816647)
If you mean Navy Broadway Complex, that thing is tied up in so much turmoil and litigation who knows if it will ever get of fthe ground. Last I read, people suing over the outdated environmental impact won in court, so it is probably on appeals now

I thought, however, that Lane Field was a different story - - good to go. Any updates there??

Also the Pei-Cobb tower that the Irvine Co is supposedly building was, I thought, going to start this year

Does anyone have the IM PEI building rendering? I heard it was lousy for an "ICONIC" building near the water and Broadway.

HurricaneHugo Sep 23, 2008 9:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDCAL (Post 3816652)
malsponger, what project is that rendering of? don't recognize it

Navy housing at 32nd Naval Station.

And that IM Pei tower sucks balls for a building that's gonna be covering up OAP.

mongoXZ Sep 23, 2008 1:35 PM

Convention center has plan for expansion
New wing would be along existing building
By Jeanette Steele
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...s/convn220.gif
The San Diego Convention Center is taking the first step toward a major expansion that would enable it to keep big-ticket conventions such as Comic-Con.
Today, convention center officials will announce the plans and answer the first question: Where? The answer: Alongside the existing building, closer to the bay.

The officials say buying a one-year option on 16 acres of Port of San Diego land gives them time to figure out another major question: How will they pay for an expansion?

The convention center's board plans to increase the facility's size by up to 300,000 square feet of exhibit space by 2014.

Ultimately, the board would like to double the current 525,000 square feet, but it's uncertain if there's enough room on the land that they would use.

Officials said yesterday that a new wing would likely allow them to keep Comic-Con International, the homegrown annual convention that draws about 125,000 people to downtown and has become a national pop-culture juggernaut.

They say it will save more than a dozen other less glitzy but lucrative conventions, including the BIO International Convention and the American Institute of Architects.

“This is just good business. So we are overjoyed to be able to expand our contribution to the community,” said Cheryl Kendrick, chairwoman of the nonprofit corporate board that runs the convention center for the city.

The behemoth on the bay now delivers $31.9 million a year to San Diego's civic coffers via hotel and sales taxes, and it estimates its annual economic impact at $1.8 billion.

Convention center officials have long said they are operating at full capacity. Shortly after the first expansion in 2001, they started talking about the need for more room.

Other cities – Phoenix and Anaheim, for example – are increasing their convention space in a leapfrogging phenomenon that has gone on for decades. San Diego, now home to the 10th-largest meeting center, needs to keep pace, officials said.

“We're protecting the third-largest industry that we have,” said Carol Wallace, convention center chief executive.

On Friday, the board is scheduled to vote to obtain a one-year option on port land next to the convention center. The price would be $1 million, plus an additional $13.5 million after a year if the board decides to move forward.

Two developers had long planned to build a 250-room boutique hotel called The Spinnaker on part of the property and hold a lease through 2024. Instead, the convention center and a hotel of undetermined size would take over.
Convention officials will take a year to work out the details: how to finance an expansion, what it will look like and how it will fit. Funding would probably come from borrowing against convention center revenues, Wallace said, but they are far from a complete proposal.

“We have purchased a year to figure this out,” Kendrick said.

Adding another wrinkle, another major convention space is brewing in Chula Vista, just south along the bayfront. Gaylord Entertainment has proposed a resort hotel of 1,500 to 2,000 rooms with 400,000 square feet of meeting space. The Chula Vista project, on the table since 2005, isn't expected to receive permits until the end of next year.

San Diego convention officials said they don't view Gaylord's proposal as competition because of its smaller size.

Another potential player departed last month. Marriott was seeking permits for a 1,900-room hotel with 215,000 square feet of convention space next to Petco Park. But Marriott dropped the plan, citing the tight credit market.

Convention officials say the downtown facility with its trademark white sail roof has performed well for the city, but will become obsolete if it doesn't expand.

Capacity has run above 60 percent, viewed as full capacity, since 2003. Last year, the center attracted 996,226 visitors who paid for more than 729,696 nights in hotel rooms.

The port paid cash for the initial convention center, completed in 1989 as part of a downtown revitalization program.

The 2001 expansion was financed by bonds that are being paid off by the city and the port. The port's share is $4.5 million; the city's is $9.2 million. The city also gives the convention center an annual stipend of $4.3 million to keep up the building.

Mayor Jerry Sanders is supportive of the growth plan, his press secretary said yesterday.

“The convention center is one of the best investments the taxpayers of San Diego have ever made,” said spokesman Darren Pudgil.

kpexpress Sep 24, 2008 2:40 AM

^^adding to the berlin wall, further cutting off all residents of the east village access to the bay, WHY NOT?!!? Where is Reagen when you need him. I am all for expanding for more biz, but for God's sake allow the residents access.

What about putting all the railroad tracks underground along with Harbor Drive and allowing more housing with direct access to the bay over or under the current convention center?

staplesla Sep 24, 2008 4:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpexpress (Post 3816866)
Does anyone have the IM PEI building rendering? I heard it was lousy for an "ICONIC" building near the water and Broadway.

Here is the link for the building.
http://www.700westbroadway.com

http://bp2.blogger.com/_rlhZCdZl2is/.../irvine220.jpg

kpexpress Sep 24, 2008 8:47 AM

Anyone watch the whole video where Harry explains the significance of the site and the role the building will play for Downtown? The whole time I kept agreeing with him, but shaking my head as to why such a lame ass building. A new icon? To me America Plaza is the icon, along with the Hyatt and Symphony Tower from the EV. This will only mess the whole thing up.

Wow, the "old boys network of SD" needs to wake up and smell the FUNK!

kpexpress Sep 24, 2008 9:11 AM

On another note......

While walking my dogs downtown tonight the thought came across my mind to post my opinion on downtown's best urban walk. My hopes are that others may post input on my opinion and comment on what their opinion's are of downtown's best urban walk.

Now when it comes to the BEST urban walk, what makes a walk the best? This also I would like to see other's opinions on. In my mind, it's the buildings setbacks, step ups, outdoor livingrooms, trees and canopy, enclosures, textures, masses, voids, scenery, length of the walk, smells, shadows, sun access, etc. There is a lot of things that, in my mind, make up the best urban walk. But lately I seem to find myself doing this one particular walk over and over again, and so I thought...."why am I in favor of walking the same path over and over?" "What is so desirable about this path?"

So I have mapped it out, and in my mind, this is the best urban walk downtown has to offer.

Before you slaughter my pick (if you ad intentions of doing so) Let me first explain my biases: When I walk, it's with my dogs, most always in the East Village and is at night or evening.
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...urban-walk.jpg
"S" for start, "F" for finish (two options) can "S" and "F"'s can be swapped..duh

It's my hopes that peeps from other neighborhoods in downtown can give their opinions on downtowns best urban walk so I can try a few of them out.

IconRPCV Sep 24, 2008 8:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpexpress (Post 3819174)
On another note......

While walking my dogs downtown tonight the thought came across my mind to post my opinion on downtown's best urban walk. My hopes are that others may post input on my opinion and comment on what their opinion's are of downtown's best urban walk.

Now when it comes to the BEST urban walk, what makes a walk the best? This also I would like to see other's opinions on. In my mind, it's the buildings setbacks, step ups, outdoor livingrooms, trees and canopy, enclosures, textures, masses, voids, scenery, length of the walk, smells, shadows, sun access, etc. There is a lot of things that, in my mind, make up the best urban walk. But lately I seem to find myself doing this one particular walk over and over again, and so I thought...."why am I in favor of walking the same path over and over?" "What is so desirable about this path?"

So I have mapped it out, and in my mind, this is the best urban walk downtown has to offer.

Before you slaughter my pick (if you ad intentions of doing so) Let me first explain my biases: When I walk, it's with my dogs, most always in the East Village and is at night or evening.
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...urban-walk.jpg
"S" for start, "F" for finish (two options) can "S" and "F"'s can be swapped..duh

It's my hopes that peeps from other neighborhoods in downtown can give their opinions on downtowns best urban walk so I can try a few of them out.

I think your walk is great I just like to add a loop around the ballpark if my dog is in the mood. French bulldogs can be lazy at times.

bmfarley Sep 25, 2008 7:38 PM

^^^ Nice!

Speaking of Google Earth... anyone else notice that the 3D depiction of downtown now has images placed on buildings? It looks sweet!

Derek Sep 26, 2008 2:21 AM

City Hall in Kearny Mesa?


I overheard some guy talking about a plan to put City Hall in Kearny Mesa. What's that about?

sandiegodweller Sep 26, 2008 6:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 3823030)
City Hall in Kearny Mesa?


I overheard some guy talking about a plan to put City Hall in Kearny Mesa. What's that about?

County Offices, not city.


San Diego County Board of Supervisors Approves Lowe Enterprises Disposition and Development Agreement for County Operations Center and Annex Redevelopment

-- Sustainable Office Campus in Kearny Mesa Will Ultimately
Provide Approximately 900,000 Square Feet of Office Space for Key
County Services --
SAN DIEGO--(Business Wire)--
The San Diego County Board of Supervisors has approved Lowe
Enterprises' Disposition and Development Agreement for the County
Operations Center and Annex redevelopment in Kearny Mesa. The Board
also certified the project's Environmental Impact Report, setting the
stage for Lowe Enterprises to redevelop the 37-acre County Operations
Center site into a modern, efficient campus with approximately 900,000
square feet of office space, built to LEED Silver Certification
standards, along with service buildings and parking.

"We will deliver to the County state-of-the-art facilities that
will allow them to consolidate operations on their own campus," said
Mike McNerney, senior vice president, Lowe Enterprises Real Estate
Group. "Staff will have a highly professional environment that will
foster collaboration. The landscaped, open spaces connect the
buildings throughout and offer options for work breaks or casual
conferences."

The County Operations Center, located on Overland Avenue, will be
developed in two phases. Lowe Enterprises will begin work on the first
phase in the fall. One of the key components in phase one is the
development of a central plant that will provide the mechanical
systems to run the entire campus. Four 150,000-square-foot, four-story
office buildings and a 20,000 square-foot conference center and
cafeteria also are included in phase one. They will feature
sustainable design incorporating a variety of energy efficient, green
building technologies. Abundant windows will allow for natural light,
while energy efficient roofing and glazing systems will reduce heat
gain. Landscaping will feature water efficient plants and an
irrigation system to reduce water usage. Phase one also includes a
seven-level parking structure and offsite improvements to mitigate
traffic impacts.

The first step in the construction process will be the demolition
of several existing structures that are more than 40 years old.
Development of the first phase is expected to be completed over the
next four years.

The remaining phase of the development is comprised of an
additional two 150,000-square-foot, four-story office buildings,
identical to the buildings in phase one, and another parking
structure.

To assist the County in defraying its costs to build the new
campus, Lowe Enterprises and Fairfield Residential will acquire the
approximately 19.5 acre Annex site from the County.

malsponger Sep 26, 2008 4:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmfarley (Post 3822240)
^^^ Nice!

Speaking of Google Earth... anyone else notice that the 3D depiction of downtown now has images placed on buildings? It looks sweet!

Awesome. local.live.com has had that for a while, software based intepretation of the images to create 3d buildings. Google was relying the user 3d warehouse for all of the buildings so they were missing a ton of them. Glad to see this on Google earth now cause the functionaly and speed is much much better than local.live.

SDDTProspector Sep 26, 2008 7:14 PM

Well, I guess Bosa's "kettner and ash" project is slowly moving foward. From what I am hearing. Bidding for all the "concrete work" is out to bidding. I guess that is a sign that some developments are still moving along....

here are some newer images from the project.

http://www.amanatarchitect.com/kettner/001.jpg

http://www.amanatarchitect.com/kettner/002.jpg

http://www.amanatarchitect.com/kettner/003.jpg

http://www.amanatarchitect.com/kettner/004.jpg

http://www.amanatarchitect.com/kettner/005.jpg

http://www.amanatarchitect.com/kettner/008.jpg


http://www.amanatarchitect.com/kettner/009.jpg

http://www.amanatarchitect.com/kettner/010.jpg

http://www.amanatarchitect.com/kettner/011.jpg

Mariobrotha Sep 26, 2008 8:59 PM

Columbia Tower
 
What ever happened to that 47 story tower that was supposed to go up a few blocks away on Columbia St?


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