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L.A. city population: 3,990,456 Detroit city population: 672,662 Difference: 3.31 million Detroit MSA: 4.29 million spread out over 3,888.4 sq mi L.A. city: 4 million, over 468 sq. mi L.A. city nearly contains the entire population Detroit MSA, yet uses 12% of the land to do so. Yup, they sure seem similar in nearly every respect. |
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Although, I'll point out, since you want to be dense, that Metro Detroit has twice the population density that Metro LA does. |
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Here's the reality: Los Angeles: 2010 Urban Area population: 12,150,996 Land Area: 1,736 square miles Population density: 6,999.3 people per square mile Detroit: 2010 Urban Area Population: 3,734,090 Land Area: 3,463 square miles Population Density: 2,792.5 people per square mile It should be noted that Los Angeles UA is the most dense metro in the United States, followed by San Francisco and San Jose. |
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Fact LA city is twice as dense as Detroit. Metro LA is one of the top 5 densest in the US: https://www.citylab.com/equity/2012/...t-metros/3450/ America's Densest Metros by Population-Weighted Density as Compared to Average Density: Metro Area Population-Weighted Density Average Density New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA 31,251 2,826 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA 12,145 1,755 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA 12,114 2,646 Honolulu, HI 11,548 1,587 Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI 8,613 1,315 Kind of interesting stuff here on densities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lation_density |
la and detroit are both filled with dense sfh neighborhoods and blanketed by a large grid of freeways. (i think dallas applies here too, houston somewhat less WRT freeways, being more of a spoke/belt)
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MONTREAL - BROOKLYN Both were founded and developed at roughly the same time. One is francophone while the other anglophone but beyond that they look and feel remarkably similar. Large Italian and Jewish communities are present in both but Brooklyn is a lot denser. There's a ton of pre-WW2 row housing in both although the architecture was influenced by different European countries: France and England. They're both stone and feature stairs coming down to the sidewalk with cast iron railings. The central core of each have the same feel with lots of grand pre-WW2 structures. Montreal's core is a lot busier, of course. Borough of Brooklyn Settled: 1634 Area: 183 km2 Population: 2,648,771 City of Montreal Settled: 1642 Area: 365 km2 Population: 1,704,694 Brooklyn row housing https://www.brickunderground.com/sit...65048031_b.jpg Courtesy of brick underground Montreal row housing https://www.toeuropeandbeyond.com/wp...nt-royal-9.jpg Courtesy of teb |
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What two cities do you find most similar in nearly every respect? Discussion in the thread: Los Angeles and Detroit. ;) |
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I don’t think you’re a troll, but you definitely seem to have an emotional stake in the matter and are clearly “triggered.” |
A Dutch visitor who just arrived from LA said Toronto felt a lot like LA to her. I thought it was an odd comparison but is there some validity to it? I've not been to LA so it's hard for me to say.
On the surface they're both multi-nodal and have big heavily used freeways. A lot of LA and Toronto were built 1945-1995 and do have many similar characteristics. The climate is obviously different and downtowns of each are different. Perhaps they are similar in lots of other ways though? |
Philadelphia is a lot more comparable to montreal than brooklyn
Brooklyn lacks a large commercial core thanks to its proximity to manhattan Brooklyn has 3x the population density of Montreal Brooklyn generally has taller brownstones than Montreal and more apartment buildings Philadelphia and Montreal both have older commercial cores with office architecture from different eras Both have similar population densities Both have a fair amount of nice rowhouses Both have lots of modest rowhouses Both have old wealthy single family neighborhoods Both suffered due to competition with a more dynamic neighboring city for many decades |
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Wilshire’s “fraternal twin” is Yonge Street, not Detroit’s Woodward Avenue. LA’s equivalent of Woodward would be Huntington/Foothill which takes you from DT all the way to the Inland Empire. |
Toronto north of Bloor can be a bit like West LA.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0596...7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6872...7i16384!8i8192 |
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This is the exterior of the Seinfeld building. An intern scanning LA on Streetview for 10 minutes could probably find a more appropriate building (heck, there's one that would work around the corner): https://www.google.com/maps/place/75...4d-118.2930867 Putting aside the fact there's a Taco Bell drive-thru across the street, the lawn fronting the building screams "old building anywhere but NYC". The Mediterranean foliage and definitely-not-NYC facade are nice added touches. |
I can see the LA-Toronto comparisons as cities that grew at similar times from more modest prewar beginnings.
Toronto still follows more of a traditional East Coast development pattern with the more desirable neighbourhoods (both for young people and the traditional wealthy SFH areas) closest to the core, and typically you expect prices and general urban activity to decline as you move outwards . Toronto is multi-nodal with high-ruse clusters scattered throughout the core, but they tend to be more immigrant-heavy, and feel somewhat superficial maybe? Like they aren't really destinations for a ton of people who don't live there. I don't think many people who live downtown would never go to Mississauga or Scarborough City Center for entertainment. I feel like the same isn't true in LA with Santa Monica and all the various beaches (Venice, Manhattan, Hermosa, etc.). LA is pretty unique in that regard with highly desirable areas for young people separated from the core by miles of low-density detached neighborhoods. |
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And I don't know if it's because of rideshare or urban infill, increased tourism, but there is just alot more pedestrian activity throughout the city than 5-10 years ago. |
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