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MonctonRad May 6, 2018 7:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8178568)
I can tell you all about how well Vegas and Nashville are doing on NBCSN but this is the Canadian thread, so... :tup:

I'm kinda interested. I'm not too long back from a week in Washington DC watching a lot of hockey on NBC and NBCSN. There seemed to be a lot of interest down there (at least for the Caps)........

thurmas May 6, 2018 7:39 PM

Typical Eastern Canada media bias if the leafs or habs aren't competing they just give up and don't even bother tracking Western Canadian teams tv ratings.

JHikka May 13, 2018 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thurmas (Post 8178629)
Typical Eastern Canada media bias if the leafs or habs aren't competing they just give up and don't even bother tracking Western Canadian teams tv ratings.

@SportsnetPR
The #StanleyCup Playoffs Round 2 series between the @NHLJets & @PredsNHL on @Sportsnet & @CBC marks the most-watched Jets post-season series in 2.0 franchise history. The best-of-7 series garnered an average TV audience of 2.2M hockey fans & reached more than 13.7M Canadians

@SportsnetPR
Thursday’s sudden-death Game 7 showdown on @Sportsnet & @CBC received franchise-record ratings, with an average audience of 3 million viewers tuning in, making it the most-watched @NHLJets broadcast ever. #HomeofHockey #AllFortheCup

@BillBriouxTV:
THURS o'nites
CTV BigBang S11 finale 2776k
YoungSheldon 1948k
CBC NHL Round 2 G7 'Peg/Nash 1744k
GLO BigBroCan finale 956k

Would be 1.75M on CBC and 1.25M on Sportsnet for Jets Game 7.

thurmas May 13, 2018 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8186825)
@SportsnetPR
The #StanleyCup Playoffs Round 2 series between the @NHLJets & @PredsNHL on @Sportsnet & @CBC marks the most-watched Jets post-season series in 2.0 franchise history. The best-of-7 series garnered an average TV audience of 2.2M hockey fans & reached more than 13.7M Canadians

@SportsnetPR
Thursday’s sudden-death Game 7 showdown on @Sportsnet & @CBC received franchise-record ratings, with an average audience of 3 million viewers tuning in, making it the most-watched @NHLJets broadcast ever. #HomeofHockey #AllFortheCup

@BillBriouxTV:
THURS o'nites
CTV BigBang S11 finale 2776k
YoungSheldon 1948k
CBC NHL Round 2 G7 'Peg/Nash 1744k
GLO BigBroCan finale 956k

Would be 1.75M on CBC and 1.25M on Sportsnet for Jets Game 7.

For game 6 of the Jets Preds series Ron Maclean said on HNIC that 85% of all Manitoba households were watching that game.

blueandgoldguy May 14, 2018 10:06 PM

Good numbers for the Jets in the second round.

For perspective, last year, Ottawa-rangers series and Edmonton-Anaheim series averaged 1.7 million per game last year. Ottawa's most watched game in round 2 against the Rangers averaged 2.4 million.

http://www.obj.ca/article/ticket-pri...tanley-cup-run

elly63 May 15, 2018 12:38 AM

Eskimos 2017 Report to Shareholders

thurmas May 15, 2018 2:30 AM

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Originally Posted by elly63 (Post 8187947)

Interesting the Bombers generated $32 million compared to the Eskies $24 million. This has got me a bit concerned on what BC and the Eastern teams made as I doubt it is anything close to what the 4 Prairie teams made.

elly63 May 15, 2018 7:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thurmas (Post 8188049)
Interesting the Bombers generated $32 million compared to the Eskies $24 million. This has got me a bit concerned on what BC and the Eastern teams made as I doubt it is anything close to what the 4 Prairie teams made.

A large part depends on sponsorships, for one. I believe the Alouettes were leading the league at one time with very lucrative sponsorships. Rumour has it, they had an executive that went a little rogue and damaged that relationship. He's been gone for the last few years and I understand most of the relationships were restored.

JHikka May 15, 2018 7:50 PM

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Originally Posted by elly63 (Post 8188765)
A large part depends on sponsorships, for one. I believe the Alouettes were leading the league at one time with very lucrative sponsorships. Rumour has it, they had an executive that went a little rogue and damaged that relationship. He's been gone for the last few years and I understand most of the relationships were restored.

Quoted relevant sections:

Interview: There was never going to be a quick fix, Alouettes president says

"We're in a tough spot. We have been for some time now," Montreal Alouettes president Patrick Boivin says
HERB ZURKOWSKY, MONTREAL GAZETTE
More from Herb Zurkowsky, Montreal Gazette
Published on: October 17, 2017 | Last Updated: October 17, 2017 2:07 PM EDT

“We’re in a tough spot. We have been for some time now. Our metrics are not increasing. A lot of that is in direct relationship to the team’s performance,” Boivin said. “They want to see this team come back. They’re willing to be as patient as needed — not overly patient, but certainly more than a year.

“They understand this business isn’t going to be turned around in a year, especially when it’s correlated to the football performance. The business has not been tracking forward. It’s been regressing slowly, year after year. Tickets and sponsorship have been tracking similarly.”

While there will constantly be speculation about potential new ownership or the need to get local interested parties involved, the Wetenhall family never has expressed a desire to sell. And realistically, it wouldn’t make economic sense to unload the franchise at this juncture, when the return would be minimal.

“My belief is they’ll fight to keep the franchise, but there needs to be signs,” Boivin said. “Part of that — a big part — is on me … on righting the ship. I don’t know that we necessarily get four years to do this without seeing some real progression.”

The price of season tickets will remain frozen. Indeed, those deciding to renew their subscriptions will take advantage of rebates between 45 and 25 per cent, depending on how early they commit. The price of almost 1,000 seats in Molson Stadium will be reduced, and a $20 ticket for students will now be offered.

Rather than concentrating on the approximately 10,000 who have full season-ticket packages, Boivin said equal emphasis must be placed on those who have more specific interests and want to see a more limited number of games. Boivin said the organization must continue to sell the overall experience as opposed to the actual three-hour game.

“It’s less about selling a ticket. It’s more about selling an overall experience,” he said. “We’re trying to get them in, not (exclusively) for the football but to live a social experience with their friends.

“We’re going to be redefining this team’s identity so it can progress and develop properly.”

http://montrealgazette.com/sports/fo...president-says

esquire May 15, 2018 7:56 PM

^ I don't feel too badly for the Als, they had a good thing going when the team was doing well. They milked it hard with some big crowds for playoff games and what were probably at the time the highest ticket price points in the league. I'm sure their ownership did quite well for itself.

elly63 May 15, 2018 9:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8188797)
Quoted relevant sections

Not really sure what's relevant there aside from saying regressing. No dollar values or actual specifics are mentioned, that's like saying TFC's TV ratings doubled. Doubling nothing is still nothing.

JHikka May 15, 2018 9:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elly63 (Post 8188919)
Not really sure what's relevant there aside from saying regressing.

To quote Boivin from the article, emphasis added is mine:

"We’re in a tough spot. We have been for some time now. Our metrics are not increasing."

"The business has not been tracking forward. It’s been regressing slowly, year after year. Tickets and sponsorship have been tracking similarly."


Your original post indicated that sponsorships had been restored (you didn't provide values or actual specifics) and I quoted a Montreal Gazette article indicating that sponsorships were declining. Boivin's point-of-view is probably worth more and I was supplementing your post with his official information. Since we don't have any official numbers it's mostly moot anyway, but Boivin's interview wasn't exactly painting a pretty picture. :shrug:

The Edmonton Eskimos make roughly $5M/year in sponsorship funding (making up roughly 20% of their total revenue). The Blue Bombers post their revenues but do not indicate sponsorship individually from other corporate revenues so we're left to guesstimate. I'd assume it's around $4M given market size (although you're welcome to refute this). If Montreal is attracting half the crowds in a larger market it's possible their sponsorship figures are somewhere similar.

(edit - Saskatchewan brings in roughly $6M/year in sponsorship revenue as of 2017)

In saying this, both Edmonton's and Winnipeg's sponsorship revenues (in the case of Winnipeg, presumably) have been increasing year-over-year. Edmonton receives about ~$300K more each year in sponsorships. We have no way of completely comprehending the situations in Winnipeg or Montreal so we're left to guess as to why Edmonton and Winnipeg are increasing whilst Montreal is decreasing.

elly63 May 15, 2018 9:51 PM

I said "I understand most of the relationships were restored" I never said anything specific about values or later loss.

theman23 May 15, 2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thurmas (Post 8186860)
For game 6 of the Jets Preds series Ron Maclean said on HNIC that 85% of all Manitoba households were watching that game.

Fucking cousin earl letting us all down again.

blueandgoldguy May 15, 2018 10:21 PM

There is little doubt MOntreal is losing millions a year at this point - reduced sponsorship from their glory days, decline in crowds and an antiquated stadium that while in a cool locale has limited revenue generating opportunities with the lack of club seats, suites, loges; no naming rights revenue, no ancillary revenues from parking or other events at the stadium.

The team had 17-18,000 season ticket holders at one point with a few thousand on the waiting list. Now it is down to 10,000. Given how awful last season was, I'm sure their attendance will drop by at least a few thousand this year...unless they start giving away a lot of tickets.

thurmas May 15, 2018 11:27 PM

I am guesstimating that the Argos Als and Lions generate around 10-16 million if the Bombers and Eskies generate between 24 and 32 million per year as they get between 27000 and 32000 fans per game to that of 14000-19000 per game. The ticats and redblacks are probably around the 18-22 million mark as their attendance is around the 22 to 24k mark per game.

jonny24 May 16, 2018 2:00 PM

Might be time for a brand refresh for the Als? The name is solid but they could do with a new logo and uniforms. :shrug:

Of course, their football ops being hopeless doesn't help.

elly63 May 17, 2018 8:21 PM

Why I love this league!
When good marketing and promotion are genuine.

Riders heading to Humboldt on June 3
cfl.ca May 17, 2018

REGINA — The Saskatchewan Roughriders announced Thursday they’ll practice in Humboldt, Sask. on June 3 to honour the Humboldt Broncos and support the community.

The team will hold a walk-through practice at Glenn Hall Park football field from noon until 1 p.m., while the Rider organization will also host a barbecue lunch adjacent to the field for the community to enjoy over the course of the lunch hour event.

“While we continue to mourn for all those effected by the devastating event of April 6, we want to demonstrate our ongoing support for the Broncos organization and the community of Humboldt,” stated Craig Reynolds, Saskatchewan Roughriders president and CEO. “We have been working in partnership with the Broncos’ organization since the tragedy, hoping to play a small role in assisting the team, victims, the community and entire province through this painful time by channeling the healing power of sport, and by lending the strength of Rider Nation.”

“The Broncos are so grateful for the Saskatchewan Roughriders, who have proven to be an invaluable support and resource in recent weeks,” said Kevin Garinger, president of the Humboldt Broncos. “We look forward to June 3rd, where we aim to bring the spirit of Rider Nation as well as an opportunity to enjoy the optimism for the exciting CFL season ahead, to all those in the community of Humboldt.”

Following walk-through players and coaches will make themselves available to spend time with fans for pictures and autographs.

On the day of the walk-through in Humboldt, the Saskatchewan Roughriders and Humboldt Broncos will also be releasing details regarding the Riders’ ‘Humboldt Strong’ home game on June 30, 2018, which has been dedicated to the families and victims of the April 6 tragedy.

JHikka May 19, 2018 3:06 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ddfg36_UwAAVxuh.jpg

isaidso May 19, 2018 3:02 PM

I suppose the US team is ranked #1 but who's #2?


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