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ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2017 5:04 PM

:previous: Very interesting find Lorendoc. I was surprised the pics are from 1951. At first glance it reminded me of the plague photos from 1924.





Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7724813)

I really think it's there to see if the Brinks truck arrived. This was built as a bank and cash transfers were a bit fraught.

I believe you t2....my "terrarium gone awry" comment was just my attempt at being funny.



Is this similar to what you're talking about? (albeit on a much grander scale)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/W0ucqB.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/johnsantuc...e-armored-car/

tovangar2 Feb 27, 2017 5:44 PM

:previous:

Yes, that's it. So one can observe from a safe height/distance.

Do you think, if there was a robbery attempt, the observer would just call the police, or break out the sniper rifle?


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OK, I'll try a "mystery location". There's two big clues here, so it should be easy:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/AT...w=w903-h505-no

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2017 6:43 PM

I don't believe we have seen this pic on nla.

Harry Chandler posing with the Texas Christian University band in front of the Times building in 1935.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/ZRgMSD.jpg
http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...latimes%3A4853




It's interesting to see the spotlights used to light up the facade.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/FZvyTm.jpg
detail

It must have been pretty impressive at night....esp. during the 1930s at the height of the depression.

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ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2017 6:56 PM

Here's a wonderful treat from ebay.

Venice, April 1917

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/g3s6EX.jpg



There are so many interesting things in this photograph (not the least of which are the signs....Live Sea Horses!)


One thing that caught my eye were the r.r. tracks that end abruptly where the little kid is waiting.


I know that Venice had a miniature train, but these tracks look huge.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/bcWXV8.jpg
detail

Were these old tracks already obsolete in 1917?

(note also the placard sign that is placed over the tracks....perhaps another clue that it's obsolete?)



For comparison, here's a look that the miniature train and it's much smaller track.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/tQrISz.jpg
w_&_p

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The pic below doesn't show the track size but I thought I'd post it anyway because the date is amazingly early....1905!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/PGy1Zw.jpg
http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...ent_Parks.html

HossC Feb 27, 2017 8:00 PM

Thanks for the construction pictures of the Millikan Library, e_r, and also for finding the Throop Memorial Garden. I've been trying to find a build date for the garden. The building next to the fountain on the right of the first Shulman picture (where the garden now stands) still appears on the 1972 image at Historic Aerials, but it's gone by 1977, so at least we're down to a five year window.


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Here's another of William H Harrison's Whittier buildings. This is Julius Shulman's "Job 2737: William H. Harrison, Whittier College, Student Union (Whittier, Calif.), 1959".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I'm not sure what the holes at this end of the building were for, but I like the design. I've left out a few images from the set, including a close-up of the brickwork by the door.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The end window provides a great deal of light to this room.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

I'm guessing that this was a dining area.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

There was also a coffee bar ...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

... and a shop selling pennants and other merchandise.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

This is obviously a different building, which I'll come to below.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The Student Union building can still be seen in the 2007 GSV image.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original
GSV

It has since be completely ruined modified, and lost pretty much all of its original exterior features.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
GSV

The building in the last Shulman image seems to be Hoover Hall, just north of the Student Union building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
Google Maps

Bristolian Feb 27, 2017 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7725348)
Here's a wonderful treat from ebay.

Venice, April 1917



One thing that caught my eye were the r.r. tracks that end abruptly where the little kid is waiting.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/bcWXV8.jpg
detail

Were these old tracks already obsolete in 1917?

e_r,
I think the tracks actually extend beyond where the kid is waiting but the general surface changes which makes it harder to see them. The curve of the left-hand track can be seen just beyond the sign.
Also, a longshot but the object at the top of the photo, just to the right of the sign looks like it could be the front of a locomotive?

tovangar2 Feb 27, 2017 9:35 PM

Venice Aquarium
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7725348)

Here's the Aquarium (on the left in the photo above) in 1909 when new:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eR...A=w643-h618-no
uscdl

"1909 - The Venice Aquarium on Kinney's Pier opened in January. It's sunken seal and sea lion tank
was surrounded by 48 glass tanks that contained specimens from the Santa Monica Bay." - westland



Another angle (I bet the exhibits longed to escape):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5U...w=w641-h518-no
waterandpower

All lost in the 1920 fire.

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2017 9:59 PM

re: Whittier College Student Union coffee shop.



I'm curious, what would be the benefit of having a fan over each door?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/I9pQoX.jpg
Originally posted by HossC

:previous: & that cash register is a giant!

oldstuff Feb 27, 2017 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7725569)
re: Whittier College Student Union coffee shop.



I'm curious, what would be the benefit of having a fan over each door?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/I9pQoX.jpg
Originally posted by HossC

:previous: & that cash register is a giant!

The fans keep flies out when the doors open since the flies cannot navigate the downdraft.. Some drive through places have them over the pickup windows now for the same reason.

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2017 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7725544)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/ybqlIm.jpg
waterandpower

I bet the exhibits longed to escape.

Ah, now I feel sorry for the captive sea creatures t2. :( (they could hear and smell the ocean)




I wonder what the sign below the aquarium says?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/189s1J.jpg
detail

It's too wordy for a simple "No Swimming" sign.

(I think that might be a large 2 to the left of the words)

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ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2017 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7725589)
The fans keep flies out when the doors open since the flies cannot navigate the downdraft.
Some drive through places have them over the pickup windows now for the same reason.

Thanks oldstuff.

My mom always warned us that every time a fly lands it poops.
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HossC Feb 27, 2017 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7725594)

I wonder what the sign below the aquarium says?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/189s1J.jpg
detail

It's too wordy for a simple "No Swimming" sign.

(is that a large 2 to the left of the words?)

Luckily, the image is available at USC. The large "2" doesn't actually exist when you zoom in.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eniceSign1.jpg
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

In the 1909 CD, the Atlantic, Gulf & Pacific Co is listed at 707 H W Hellman Building.

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2017 10:44 PM

:previous: Whoa, what happened to my 2 ;)

I would have bet money that was a 2.

tovangar2 Feb 27, 2017 10:47 PM

:previous: Hoss beat me too it :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7725607)
In the 1909 CD, the Atlantic, Gulf & Pacific Co is listed at 707 H W Hellman Building.

They forgot the Great Lakes, America's north coast.


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Remember that computer Deckard had in "Blade Runner" e_r? One could load a photo in it (they were still hard copies though, lol) and the computer could zoom in and see around corners? I want one of those.

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2017 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7725424)

Thanks for finding the Throop Memorial Garden. I've been trying to find a build date for the garden.

Hoss, when I posted about the Throop Memorial Gardens earlier, I had no idea what the gardens had replaced. :( (see below)


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/vB0qfr.jpg
https://eands.caltech.edu/memories-of-throop/

"Long before ducks made their nests among turtles and squirrels in what is now known as Throop Memorial Garden, the very first building on the campus called that space home. Where there are now ponds stood Pasadena Hall (renamed Throop Hall in 1920), the same year the Throop College of Technology became the California Institute of Technology—to honor the school’s founder, Amos G. Throop."


Earthquake Damage:

"When the building opened in 1910—jam-packed with classrooms, laboratories, and administrative offices—it was said to be earthquake proof. The 6.6 San Fernando temblor of 1971 seemed to disprove that notion, leaving behind deep cracks in the facade of the great hall. Engineers, lacking the original construction plans and thus unable to know if the building was likely to be savable, recommended demolition. When a wrecking ball started to smash away at the concrete exterior, however, it revealed large amounts of steel rebar. The building, it turned out, likely could have stood for many more years.

But that was not to be. In 1973 Throop Hall came down, and it was soon replaced by the lush gardens seen on the site today."


:previous: So that answers your question Hoss. The gardens were no doubt installed a short time after 1973.
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Here's a positive note:

"Despite the ’71 quake and the decision to tear down Throop Hall, the arches over the main entrance with the allegorical figures representing Nature, Art, Energy,
Science, Imagination, and Law were saved at the last moment by carefully cutting them from the damaged building."


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/4H8L44.jpg
http://archives.caltech.edu/photogal...-lost-art.html

"For 13 years they sat in a Pasadena city yard, the victims of government plans to place them at city hall that never came to fruition. Then, in the mid ’80s, Caltech pulled the forlorn figures out of the dirt and weeds, and gave them a place of honor on the second-story bridge spanning the (at the time) newly renovated Church and Crellin buildings, which together composed the Arnold and Mabel Beckman Laboratory of Chemical Synthesis."


in the "dirt and weeds"
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/zhuGPO.jpg
http://archives.caltech.edu/photogal...-lost-art.html



Remounting the arches, 1986.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/9661rv.jpg
http://archives.caltech.edu/photogal...-lost-art.html






A Mistake is Corrected:

"Although the arches are nearly identical to how they appeared on Throop Hall, the bridge corrects a curious mistake made in the original sculpture: two of the bottom plaques had been placed incorrectly, with the mask of Art appearing under the column showing Science, while the hammer and anvil hung below the depiction of Art.
They now appear in their originally intended positions."



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/FwChzo.jpg
http://www.photoartbyme.com/Caltech/i-RZ57cWz/A



One last look.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/P0VBNv.jpg
http://www.photoartbyme.com/Caltech/i-RZ57cWz/A

The arches are also known as the 'Calder Arches'. They were created by Alexander Stirling Calder (father of the 'mobile' artist of the same name)
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https://eands.caltech.edu/memories-of-throop/

http://archives.caltech.edu/photogal...-lost-art.html

https://coloradoboulevard.net/memori...t-was-caltech/

http://www.photoartbyme.com/Caltech/i-RZ57cWz/A

tovangar2 Feb 28, 2017 12:09 AM

Still trying to figure out how much real estate the RTD temporary Depot #16 took up, I found five more photos starting here on Flickr:

The S Spring street entrance, showing the Parkinson building at No. 514:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wh...Q=w358-h517-no

Looking east with the 522 Club at 522 S Main in the distance. The then-new parking structure at 530 S Spring is on the right:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Sk...A=w742-h501-no

Looking west with the S Spring annex to the Alexandria Hotel in the background; 514 S Spring on the right:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LJ...A=w651-h432-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Qp...w=w950-h620-no
google maps


When they built the LATC theater they intruded on the countinghouse-end of the John Parkinson building. It lost it's southernmost vertical row of windows:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kD...A=w348-h502-no
flickr, detail (via e_r)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Iz...A=w448-h633-no
gsv

1915 LA Herald article on the building of 514 S Spring by the Engstrum Company

(It took out the second location of Ralph's grocery. Geo A Ralph moved to this location when the first site was developed for the Hayward Hotel)

ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2017 12:18 AM

:previous: Excellent sleuthing t2! Thanks so much.

So I take it the 522 CLUB was a bar, right?



I wish I could read the banner below the 522 sign. Work your magic Hoss ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/nPcdZv.jpg

Is this part of the lot elevated?
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ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2017 12:29 AM

:previous:

I just Super-Duper enlarged it via flickr.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/z8EuEZ.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...n/photostream/

I see there's also a sign for BIGGS.

and I hadn't noticed the man standing on top of the building below the 522 Club sign until now. I think he's about to jump and the people are cheering him on!
;)

tovangar2 Feb 28, 2017 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7725718)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/nPcdZv.jpg

Is this part of the lot elevated?
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I think the lot is flat. It looks as though the buses always exited on S Main.


The "522 Club" sign is still there:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tZ...Q=w874-h589-no
gsv


I couldn't find anything on the club. The building was built as a Woolworth's in 1924.



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Lorendoc Feb 28, 2017 7:22 AM

522 Club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7725748)

I couldn't find anything on the club. The building was built as a Woolworth's in 1924.

Starsky and Hutch are being chased in the Striped Tomato by the bad guys.

http://i.imgur.com/0AOiTov.jpg
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2...t-1_shortfilms


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