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Curmudgeon Feb 27, 2020 6:40 AM

The ethos of brutalism is totalitarian, nihilistic and atheistic. It has no place in our cities and crushes rather than uplifts the soul.

It is not surprising that this monstrous form finds so much favour here as so many of the posters on SSP are globalist authoritarian leftists.

Nashe Feb 27, 2020 1:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 8843571)

Super easy to build in Minecraft... Also, harkens to:
https://www.easterisland.travel/imag...ano-raraku.jpg

Chadillaccc Feb 27, 2020 1:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon (Post 8843983)
The ethos of brutalism is totalitarian, nihilistic and atheistic. It has no place in our cities and crushes rather than uplifts the soul.

It is not surprising that this monstrous form finds so much favour here as so many of the posters on SSP are globalist authoritarian leftists.

"Curmudgeon" is an extremely appropriate screen name. I agree with the first part of your post, but laugh at the second part. Yowza.

MonkeyRonin Feb 27, 2020 2:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon (Post 8843983)
The ethos of brutalism is totalitarian, nihilistic and atheistic.


I guess these guys didn't get the memo!


https://architizer-prod.imgix.net/me...cs=strip&h=352
https://architizer.com/blog/inspirat...ncrete-church/

MonkeyRonin Feb 27, 2020 2:33 PM

The Colonnade, built 1963.

https://i.imgur.com/aZEYjwl.jpg
https://www.torontorentals.com/toron...onnade-id66619

https://i.imgur.com/cUGEaBb.png
https://www.torontorentals.com/toron...onnade-id66619

https://i.imgur.com/j62EYEk.jpg
https://www.torontopubliclibrary.ca/...-TSPA_0109881F

https://i.imgur.com/vDimSTH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/q2N7AyB.jpg
https://www.torontopubliclibrary.ca/...-TSPA_0109881F

Acajack Feb 27, 2020 2:39 PM

I can't post pictures but someone should post the huge federal office complex Place du Portage in the central Hull district of Gatineau.

It is home to 10,000 workers. One of the largest concentrations of public employees in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_du_Portage

MonctonRad Feb 27, 2020 2:58 PM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/46...b526f5dad7.jpg

Reminds me of a Nazi flack tower from WW2. :)

Airboy Feb 27, 2020 3:19 PM

Edmonton Art Gallery renovated an no longer Brutalist
Edmonton Public School Board Building, used as a paintball game centre. Never did have a proper tenant after EPSB moved out.
Law Courts still standing and is Iconic.
Students' Union Building was renovated a few years back and lost most of its Brutalist look.

Architects

Don Bittorf
Jock Bell
Bittorf and Wensley Architects
Richards Berretti and Jellinek Architects


I have always like the Roberts Library and the Science Centre.

Walking through SFU campus I find the buildings cold. But still a fascinating building.

suburbanite Feb 27, 2020 3:26 PM

It is kind of a shame that we boomed in the 60's when all these institutional buildings were being designed in the style of the times. Imagine we had that sort of momentum in the 20's. Place du Portage but in the style of Buffalo City Hall...

That being said I think it is good to embrace the quality examples that we have. One thing is clear from these photos, Brutalism works better when it is isolated and interacting with the landscape as opposed to an existing urban fabric. See Lethbridge and the Science Centre as opposed to London's court house.

MonkeyRonin Feb 27, 2020 4:13 PM

Scott Library at York U. Completed 1970 by Adamson, Parkin, Shore & Moffat: 

https://live.staticflickr.com/8008/7...af71d048_b.jpg
Scott Library & Scott Religious Centre, York University, Toronto Ontario
by Greg's Southern Ontario (catching Up Slowly), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/1587/2...cc034c2e_b.jpg
Scott Library, York University, Toronto
by Thomas Guignard, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/1493/2...54e11c40_b.jpg
on a ramen noodle diet
by Fob Rord, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/1679/2...2aa452de_b.jpg
Scott Library, York University, Toronto
by Thomas Guignard, on Flickr

https://i.imgur.com/mUe3k8W.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vyoCWiO.jpg
http://vikpahwa.com/photos/20190409-...scott-library/

https://i.imgur.com/5mxHGCe.jpg
http://vikpahwa.com/photos/20190409-...scott-library/

https://i.imgur.com/huugspQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dodmk6Y.jpg
https://twitter.com/scottlibrary

MonkeyRonin Feb 27, 2020 4:18 PM

York U's neighbouring Ross Building:

https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/sites/...4876-42305.png
https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2014/12...ences-building

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/f5...e38004c80b.jpg https://digital.library.yorku.ca/isl...tream/JPG/view
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/747456869379701664/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6gPBG8WQAQ4jOs.jpg
https://www.acotoronto.ca/show_build...uildingID=7185

Pavlov Feb 27, 2020 4:35 PM

Brutalism?

https://www.mtl.org/sites/default/fi...?itok=MZIxXCGF

shreddog Feb 27, 2020 4:38 PM

^^ Absolutely!!

I was going to post that in response to Rousseau's request, but I love the Gugg ...

shreddog Feb 27, 2020 4:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rousseau (Post 8843907)
At first glance I was sorta with ya, but the more I look at it, the more I hate it.

The ostentatious hatred of finely-grained surfaces and ornamentation is an affront to the human soul. Down with Brutalism!

Again, to each their own, however to me what works the best with the Gugg is how it "fits" into the streetscape.

When in NY try to see it in person and you may feel different. Of course this is not the same, but .... https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7835...7i13312!8i6656

Airboy Feb 27, 2020 4:47 PM

The York University Library interior looks a lot like Edmonton Police Headquarters Interior.

MonkeyRonin Feb 27, 2020 5:03 PM

Here's another one that has (or rather had, before they butchered it with a poorly conceived addition) great street presence on Bloor St. - the Manulife Centre:


https://i.imgur.com/24NTsVe.jpg
https://manuliferealestate.com/prope...-centre-retail

https://i.imgur.com/UDKkC1R.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xe2Z5Ub.jpg
http://archikey.com/building/read/29...e-Centre/1043/

https://live.staticflickr.com/3844/1...6d88967f_c.jpg
Manulife Centre
by Marcanadian, on Flickr

Franco401 Feb 27, 2020 5:04 PM

The best part of any online Brutalism discussion is people who don't like it (and there's nothing wrong with not liking it) flat-out lying and saying shit like

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon (Post 8843983)
The ethos of brutalism is totalitarian, nihilistic and atheistic. It has no place in our cities and crushes rather than uplifts the soul.

It is not surprising that this monstrous form finds so much favour here as so many of the posters on SSP are globalist authoritarian leftists.

like maybe read a single paragraph written by any architect before making shit up.

And SSP is basically a right-wing board (evidenced by any thread where Indigenous people are a topic) so you can't blame the commies for this one

MonkeyRonin Feb 27, 2020 6:51 PM

In response to some of the common criticisms of Brutalist buildings being inhumane or soul crushing:

While they often seem hostile to their urban surroundings, their interior spaces at least, when done right are imaginative & expressive. They especially make for austere but contemplative, meditative spaces. It doesn't work for everything, but is particularly well suited to things like temples & churches, libraries, and museums.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/59/a0...69a342f94d.jpg
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/449374869047134093/

https://architizer-prod.imgix.net/me...press&cs=strip
https://architizer.com/blog/inspirat...ncrete-church/

https://images.adsttc.com/media/imag...jpg?1422970498
https://www.archdaily.com/594555/spa...ar-aalto-medal




Brutalist buildings also often do feature fine-grained ornamentation. While some take a very minimalist approach, others feature fanciful sculptural details and textural detail through the materiality. Expressive, sculptural forms are also a sort of large-scale ornament in and of itself.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/e0...f6e51677e8.jpg
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/326511041713370335/

https://i.imgur.com/h5BxXFp.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3a/91...df228c38fb.jpg
https://www.pinterest.de/pin/500603314810440261/

MonkeyRonin Feb 27, 2020 6:59 PM

Here's a richly detailed building close to home - UofT's Medical Sciences Building. Designed by Peter Goering, completed 1969:


http://www.postwarconcretepostscript...-0016-edit.jpg
http://www.postwarconcretepostscript...06/ut-med-sci/

http://www.postwarconcretepostscript...-0019-edit.jpg
http://www.postwarconcretepostscript...06/ut-med-sci/

https://i.imgur.com/5ZmlUbS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HIYB8hX.jpg
https://www.utoronto.ca/news/reducin...lding-retrofit

https://www.utoronto.ca/sites/defaul...i-building.jpg
https://www.utoronto.ca/news/air-sam...y-report-finds


https://media.glassdoor.com/l/8c/05/...e-building.jpg
https://www.glassdoor.co.in/Photos/U...s-IMG54600.htm

TorontoDrew Feb 27, 2020 8:11 PM

Moved to next page.


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