It looks that way, but hard to say for certain with that rendering.



That's what happens when you don't need a special permit. As a matter of fact, of all the tallest residential proposals under construction or nearing, only the Tower Verre needed to go through that long and torturous process. I think developers prefer to take the road with no roadblocks, save financing.


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152270002/original.jpg

Yeah...I also seem to notice something about this tower's geometry that says SMH...S for scratch in confusion. It makes me want to keep going back to look for what it is.
PS: THey did a lousy superimposition job. It's all the more flagrant as the image gets blown up. "First public release image out the proverbial door" is no excuse. The finer details ought to be conspicuous at the outset.

I'm dying for a rendering from the Central Park side.

That's from the JDS Development group website "JDS Development Group is currently developing 105-111 West 57th Street, a luxury condominium tower and conversion of the landmark Steinway building. The property is located within walking distance of a wealth of New York City’s most notable leisure points of interests, including Central Park, Carnegie Hall, Radio City Music Hall, the Museum of Modern Art, and the world-famous Fifth Avenue and 57th Street shopping districts.

The project will offer both landmark conversion product and new modern product with shared recreation spaces and lobby, and will feature a large retail component. With frontage on 57th Street and 58th Street, the project will create a dramatic street presence and benefit from its prime Midtown location at the epicenter of Manhattan’s premier international shopping, tourist and commercial districts.

105-111 West 57th Street is a joint development with strategic partner Property Markets Group"
What do you think they mean by "shared spaces and lobby"- the Steinway will be incorporated into the new building thus allowing for a larger footprint or simply they will connect the two buildings with a door/doors

Renders will come. Remember how long it took before we got another rendering after that initial 432 Park render, which wasn't great.



http://jdsdevelopmentgroup.com/portf...t-57th-street/

They mean exactly what they say, the Steinway Hall building will be integrated into this development. The lower floors will be retail.

I'm intrigued by this design and look forward to more renderings.

To my eye, and only having this view, its form looks heavily influenced by nature/organic materials, specifically blades of grass or other long, thin leaves and stems. It makes sense that SHoP (and other firms) would look to nature for inspiration on how to engineer very thin yet strong structures, or at least reference them proportionally/aesthetically.

My theory about this influence could disappear once we get more angles of the building of course. :)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3764/9...a356ed28_o.jpg

In my mind, it's been more of a giant bamboo stick. But the building itself will be sort of a giant spire. I think we will be seeing more of these super tall, super thin buildings.

I can only imagine the engineering that is going to go into this. A tower that is thinner then 432 park ave, and roughly or close to the height; its going to require an insane psi in the concrete.

I would say 14,000 psi minimum, maybe higher.

Here's an application of 19,000 psi 2 decades ago.
http://www.silicafume.org/pdf/reprints-hscjumps.pdf

Yeah I can see that. Kind of looks like a someone took a machete to one side in the jungle! :)

I'm excited to see all of the variations on this form factor. 432 Park is going to look chubby next to this waif!

Based on the renderings it looks like a waterfall. Almost like steps that seem to get shorter as the height increases. Has a slick and water-flowing facade to it.

To me it looks like they sliced out one of the middle sections of Jin Mao.

http://www.travlang.com/blog/wp-cont...ower_china.jpg
travlang.com

Imagine that tower, with the slim, stepped-back profile on the skyline...


jmarchena

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7419/9...a2a538f9_h.jpg



http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2840/9...b617d822_h.jpg

http://www.nyc.gov/html/lpc/download...a_landmark.pdf


STEINWAY HALL INTERIOR STRIKES A CHORD WITH THE LANDMARKS PRESERVATION COMMISSION
First-Floor Reception Room and Hallway of Famed Piano Manufacturer’s Showroom on West 57th Street Named New York City’s 116th Interior Landmark


Sept. 10, 2013

I guess we're in an era in NY where super tall thin buildings will be the norm. Big foot print tall buildings like WTC & ESB will be no more.

I dont see why the Steinway Hall designation impacts this building? That building is beautiful and Steinway Hall needs to be preserved.

Hudson Yards and Manhattan West all have very large footprints. But I do see your point. I'd say Brooklyn is the key if you want large footprints. Manhattan is pretty much over built; well once those particular areas such as the west side are filled up. It will eventually spread to the other boroughs. But this is years and years of planning of course. The whole east side rezoning will generate massive towers.

To get apts with max views we may soon have somethig like this in midtown:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_V7IT9bKqNu...etsonsBldg.jpg

^Haha, and then we should wear neon clothes and have white hair. :)

poor one 57 will be blocked from the images above :( . but honestly the footprint needs to be bigger it looks like a pen