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Dariusb Apr 27, 2024 2:13 PM

Austin is becoming one of my favorite skylines! Especially when all of the approved projects are built.

Dale Apr 27, 2024 2:22 PM

Housing advocates are giddy about Austin’s rent rates collapse.

bilbao58 Apr 27, 2024 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dariusb (Post 10193837)
Austin is becoming one of my favorite skylines! Especially when all of the approved projects are built.

Washington Post had an article about Austin last year that included this: "Roughly 87 percent of new office space is expected to open vacant, according to data from the commercial real estate firm Cushman & Wakefield."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ate-doom-loop/

I wonder if those approved-though-not-yet-built projects will actually happen? Houston-in-the-early-80s vibes.

SWDC Apr 27, 2024 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale (Post 10193840)
Housing advocates are giddy about Austin’s rent rates collapse.

I think the US can be weird on what it perceived to be good news vs. bad news.

“Collapse” for example itself is such a negative word. The rent trends, especially when we consider the actual urban housing, has been blowing wage growth by staggering numbers. Imagine if wages grew YoY like they had in Austin - it’d be insane.

But when we look at apartment units and data, it’s mixed with the more lower cost garden-styles on the fringes of cities with walkscores in the single digits.

Urban living shouldn’t be such a luxury, and if it is, there should be at least more amenities…

but I think housing advocates want to see rents stabilize, reforms that make urban living more accessible as there are a lot of societal benefits as well as being cheaper and better for the environment for society overall with infrastructure, efficient land use etc. Urbanity in many U.S. cities can be for those in poverty (with inadequate transit, etc) and those wealthier citizens, no children, etc.

At least that’s my take as someone who wants urbanity to be more accessible, affordable, etc in our cities.

tdawg Apr 27, 2024 6:39 PM

My favorite Texas city and skyline. If only I could tolerate the summers. Was there this past August and wanted to die.

bilbao58 Apr 27, 2024 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 10193960)
Was there this past August and wanted to die.

Two years earlier you could have frozen to death in February.

JACKinBeantown Apr 27, 2024 7:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 10193983)
Two years earlier you could have frozen to death in February.

Only because the Texas power grid wasn't kept up well enough the handle the cold weather. The northern half of the US gets weather like that quite often and the power usually doesn't go out. Especially for three or four straight days.

R1070 Apr 27, 2024 8:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 10193894)
Washington Post had an article about Austin last year that included this: "Roughly 87 percent of new office space is expected to open vacant, according to data from the commercial real estate firm Cushman & Wakefield."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ate-doom-loop/

I wonder if those approved-though-not-yet-built projects will actually happen? Houston-in-the-early-80s vibes.

I love what has happened to Austin's skyline visually, but this makes me glad that Dallas takes a more cautious approach to it's development.

bilbao58 Apr 27, 2024 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown (Post 10194005)
Only because the Texas power grid wasn't kept up well enough the handle the cold weather. The northern half of the US gets weather like that quite often and the power usually doesn't go out. Especially for three or four straight days.

It wasn't about the grid not being kept up. Here's some of what really happened:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...fb4d27ee_c.jpg

Paywall-free (I hope) link to story:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/bus...ount=MA%3D%3D#

Dariusb Apr 28, 2024 1:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 10193894)
Washington Post had an article about Austin last year that included this: "Roughly 87 percent of new office space is expected to open vacant, according to data from the commercial real estate firm Cushman & Wakefield."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ate-doom-loop/

I wonder if those approved-though-not-yet-built projects will actually happen? Houston-in-the-early-80s vibes.




Certainly something to think/worry about.

The ATX Apr 28, 2024 1:10 AM

There will not be any Spec office towers built in Austin and virtually anywhere in the U.S. for several years. Everyone knows this.

AviationGuy Apr 28, 2024 1:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 10193894)
Washington Post had an article about Austin last year that included this: "Roughly 87 percent of new office space is expected to open vacant, according to data from the commercial real estate firm Cushman & Wakefield."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ate-doom-loop/

I wonder if those approved-though-not-yet-built projects will actually happen? Houston-in-the-early-80s vibes.

I thought almost all of the talls in downtown Austin (UC and proposed) were residential. My understanding is they sell out quickly. Someone with Austin data could probably enlighten us, though.

clubtokyo May 1, 2024 11:33 PM

A lot of it is residential and that is a good thing in this market!

Urbannizer May 3, 2024 9:36 PM

Twin Oaks

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300,000 SF Residential
550,000S SF Office
25,000 SF Retail

Located at a high-profile intersection in Austin, Texas, the parcel has served as a strip commercial center since the 1950s. The redevelopment will transform the site into a series of courtyard buildings with a new network of streets and sidewalks that break up the scale of the site. The site perimeter will include significant public setbacks with gathering spaces and landscaping to complement the retail, residential and workplace uses proposed. A number of existing live oak trees will be relocated to new feature locations within the site.
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clubtokyo May 4, 2024 3:38 AM

This looks so gooooood!

IluvATX May 4, 2024 3:27 PM

Is that the NE corner of Congress and Oltorf?

futuresooner May 4, 2024 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IluvATX (Post 10198611)
Is that the NE corner of Congress and Oltorf?

Yes.

IluvATX May 6, 2024 2:29 PM

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Originally Posted by davidtexan (Post 10197705)

From Austin subforum :)

jtown,man May 8, 2024 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 10194087)
It wasn't about the grid not being kept up. Here's some of what really happened:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...fb4d27ee_c.jpg

Paywall-free (I hope) link to story:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/bus...ount=MA%3D%3D#

Up north they also deal with ice all the time.

For some reason people are laser focused on one week in Texas yet ignore the many power outages California experiences EVERY summer.

The ATX May 8, 2024 8:57 PM

This will be a great southern anchor for SoCo.



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