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Rico Rommheim Jan 2, 2009 6:22 AM

Nope. Westmount is an enclave, its an independent city.

Metro-One Jan 2, 2009 6:44 AM

Quote:

Nope, I think Kitchener has Peterborough and maybe even Yellowknife beaten.
Well Yellowknife does have a population under 20 000, and Kitchener is nearly double Peterborough. For a 500 000 CMA is is pretty lame. They must have one of the, if not the lowest tower per capita ratio of any greater area over 100 000 in Canada. And don't take this as a negative spin on the whole area, just in the aspect of urban density.

aastra Jan 2, 2009 6:50 AM

Victoria, BC (population: 78,000*)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1095/...88924f8188.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/1440532037/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/...63691c83fe.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/3034136020/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/...5cc22bbf04.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/3021758904/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2347/...6cf35670f6.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/1528432771/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/...5af87fb41e.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/2538560576/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/...d21ece160f.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/2538561680/

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1294/...e5de658677.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/1334171889/

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1088/...f96d0ec85a.jpg
Picture by the Great Scaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55063726@N00/1070297628/

*city proper only, of course

Phil McAvity Jan 2, 2009 7:52 AM

Aastra, Victoria's metro population of ~350,000 would have qualified it for this thread anyway.

I don't think Burnaby should qualify though since it is part of greater Vancouver.

Of all the cities i've been to under 500,000 people, i'd say this city has the most impressive skyline in Canada:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/32...61fc704b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/...38d9afbc_b.jpg

http://www.reginadowntown.ca/images/regina_skyline.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/3...053fb0c7_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2099/...77e37a8e_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1132/...969d50ee_o.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/80/22...4e93808c_o.jpg


Still not sure?






Welcome to Regina.

Population?

Around 200,000.


P.S.-great topic sparky!

Metro-One Jan 2, 2009 8:03 AM

I have always enjoyed Regina (no pun!)

Also of course Burnaby should count, any city under 500 000. the same as allowing Westmount to count. Because if you dont count Burnaby (which is not in vancouver city itself) then where exactly would you draw the line? Does Richmond count? Does Surrey count? What about Abbotsford? It has to be an all of nothing based on city boundaries, if not you have to many gray areas. Metrotown is no where near downtown Vancouver, it is an independent skyline in a city with a different government, so yes, it should count.

Phil McAvity Jan 2, 2009 8:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metro-One (Post 4002823)
I have always enjoyed Regina (no pun!)

Also of course Burnaby should count, any city under 500 000. the same as allowing Westmount to count. Because if you dont count Burnaby (which is not in vancouver city itself) then where exactly would you draw the line? Does Richmond count? Does Surrey count? What about Abbotsford? It has to be an all of nothing based on city boundaries, if not you have to many gray areas. Metrotown is no where near downtown Vancouver, it is an independent skyline in a city with a different government, so yes, it should count.

As I said, Burnaby is part of greater Vancouver. I remember reading years ago that suburbs were included in a city's metro population if at least half the working population of that suburb commute to the city to work so I totally disagree that Burnaby's skyline should be included because a significant number of the people that live in those residential highrises that make up the Burnaby skyline commute to Vancouver on a regular, if not daily basis. Their proximity to skytrain is one of the things that makes living in Burnaby so attractive. I think you can rule out any suburb on that basis.

To make things easier I have compiled a list of the 10 largest cities that qualify using that criterion and the 2006 Canadian census stats:

London Ontario 457,720
Kitchener Ontario 451,235
St. Catharines Ontario 390,317
Halifax Nova Scotia 372,858
Oshawa Ontario 330,594
Victoria British Columbia 330,088
Windsor Ontario 323,342
Saskatoon Saskatchewan 233,923
Regina Saskatchewan 194,971
Sherbrooke Quebec 186,952

Metro-One Jan 2, 2009 8:44 AM

:previous: Why are some people such bossy bodies? Are you the thread police. As i see it any city with a population under 500 000 counts, and Burnaby is. Vancouver is not. the thread title is not "Great Canadian skyline thread for cities 500 000 and under THAT ARE NOT PART OF A METRO." As i said, it will become gray. Abbotsford is the perfect example, it is under 500 000, but it is not technically in the GVRD, but it is on the border and talks have been in the works for it to become part of the GVRD. So what would you say to posting pics of Abbotsford, technically it is its own metro-area but in reality it is becoming part of the GVRD. This is the gray area you don't seem to realize. Look at southern Ontario for example, if Hamilton were under 500 000 and its skyline were posted some would argue that it is a suburb or Toronto.

To keep it simple stupid it should be any municipality under 500 000 people in its borders counts.

If Montreal has suburban skylines post them, i want to see them. Same for Toronto's suburban skylines that are outside of Toronto proper.

Your list is funny as well because you are not the one who started this thread in the first place. I think it is up to sparky212 to decide what goes and what doesn't.

Nouvellecosse Jan 2, 2009 9:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity (Post 4002815)
Aastra, Victoria's metro population of ~350,000 would have qualified it for this thread anyway.

I don't think Burnaby should qualify though since it is part of greater Vancouver.

Of all the cities i've been to under 500,000 people, i'd say this city has the most impressive skyline in Canada

Still not sure?

Welcome to Regina.

Population?

Around 200,000.

Definitely impressive, but I think Hfx holds its own pretty well. Especially considering there are highrises all across the metro area (although I admit it has a larger population.)
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/8...alifax53ri.jpg


This aerial is over 25 yrs old, but it's the only decent aerial I could find (although still leaves out many highrises).

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1...cropped4vp.jpg

someone123 Jan 2, 2009 9:54 AM

Here's a much newer aerial of Halifax from Wintorbos (yes, Andy6 on SSP) on Flickr:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/...96a328f5_o.jpg

It's really large so requires scrolling. It's hard to find an aerial that captures all of the city because it is very spread out.

1ajs Jan 2, 2009 10:11 AM

s123 u know wintorbos is andy6 right?

koops65 Jan 2, 2009 1:49 PM

Here is a pic of downtown Kitchener taken by me last July:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3087/...114278f0_b.jpg

For a city of 220 000 this view makes it seem on par with other similar sized cities. For those of you who are under the impression that this is a huge city, CMA of 450 000 to 500 000, those are the right numbers, but it's 3 different cities, Kitchener, Waterloo and Cambridge (which is itself 3 different cites joined together), so it isn't all one city with a big, tall downtown core. The highrises are very spread out. That being said, it is also true that Waterloo Region is lacking in the height department, and needs more, taller, highrises to bring it into the next tier of big cities.

Hootch Jan 2, 2009 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim (Post 4002692)
Westmount, Quebec ~25,000

Isn't that the English neighborhood in Montréal?

But who cares? People have been showing North Vancouver and Burnaby, why not Montréal

harls Jan 2, 2009 3:57 PM

Gatineau, Quebec (pop ~260,000)

Click for big.



(pic - me)

MolsonExport Jan 2, 2009 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootch (Post 4003072)
Isn't that the English neighborhood in Montréal?

But who cares? People have been showing North Vancouver and Burnaby, why not Montréal

with the exception of a few short years following forced municipal mergers (rendered moot with the demerger), Westmount was and is an independent city. It is still predominately English-speaking, but today almost all speak French fluently.

MolsonExport Jan 2, 2009 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harls (Post 4003084)
Gatineau, Quebec (pop ~260,000)

Click for big.



(pic - me)


^Manly will tell you that since it is part of the Ottawa metro, it is inelligible for inclusion in this thread.

Dmajackson Jan 2, 2009 5:15 PM

Heres some that I've taken recently of the Halifax area;

From the North-End looking towards Spring Garden Road:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/...a4f1f85f_b.jpg

Downtown Halifax (Former City ~ 100'000):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/...9ec62a28_b.jpg

Dartmouth (Former City ~ 100'000):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/...66f6e52a_b.jpg

flar Jan 2, 2009 5:18 PM

Since we're doing suburbs, Hamilton's suburbs:

Dundas (25,000) from Dundas Peak:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...tone/00098.jpg

Burlington (150,000) as seen from Hamilton Beach:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...each/00060.jpg

Stoney Creek (60,000) as seen from Stoney Creek Mountain:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...reek/00100.jpg

Dmajackson Jan 2, 2009 5:47 PM

I forgot these for the Halifax suburbs (Aall taken by me);

Bedford (Former Town ~ 20'000)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2131/...03f89531_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3016/...b3c3e147_b.jpg

And the only other comparable suburb is Lower Sackville (Former ~ 20'000)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/...18c4cff1_b.jpg

And well since I have one heres the Downtown Halifax Skyline at Sunset (Purdy's to Westin):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/...a4fa52f2_b.jpg

softee Jan 2, 2009 6:03 PM

North Bay, Ontario: Population 54,000

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...pphp6xJ2I1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...pphpvA3e4d.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...001resized.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...X-MasDayg7.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...023resized.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...pphpDhcDN1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...pphpsdqVnh.jpg

Nicko999 Jan 2, 2009 6:50 PM

Laval (Montreal suburb): pop 368,709

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1112/...d4f2d344d0.jpg


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