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harryc Apr 20, 2016 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo (Post 7414407)
I'm curious, who would actually want to LIVE right there? It's such a strange location. You're essentially boxed in by Orleans and forced up to either Hubbard, Illinois, or Grand. It seems like such an inconvenience to be cornered like that. Also what's the nearest grocery store? The Jewel over on Desplaines? Again, to get there you have to drive around in a huge circle. I don't know, I was just thinking about how weird of a location this is... but then again I would never live anywhere downtown, so maybe it's just me

Lower Orelans to Kinzie is how I would envision residents getting their cars in and out.

Skyguy_7 Apr 20, 2016 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanLibertine (Post 7414442)
I'm glad this information finally broke. It was like torture wanting to spill the beans when everyone was complaining about how the towers might not go up and then with the soil testing speculation.

In the future, could you please not hold this kind of juicy secret hostage? The entire purpose of this website is to anonymously share development information amongst each other! Draw it on a napkin for all we care!

bcp Apr 20, 2016 11:21 PM

Curbed has an image of the basic site plan...wow, the next two towers will have a narrow profile too. Should be incredible with the added height.

chris11 Apr 20, 2016 11:51 PM

Great news though I always wanted the South Tower to be built first as originally planned because if the East Tower (phase 3) happened to get cancelled then a park or river plaza at that east end of lot would look fine, but if the South Tower gets axed thats a terrible gap in the middle of that prestigious lot. Not that they wouldn't get it developed eventually...

ardecila Apr 21, 2016 6:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7414541)
When it's a condo building, you really can't flip it for a profit like a rental.

No, you make your profit selling every single unit, one at a time.

I don't think they're doing this looking to make a crazy profit by flipping the building. The downtown rental market is getting very saturated with new construction and rent growth will slow down or even reverse. That doesn't do much for your valuation.

The only reason they're doing rental is so that they don't create a whole new nest of NIMBYs before the South Tower is approved. After that, look for them to do a condo conversion on East Tower and/or West Tower.

Pilton Apr 21, 2016 3:44 PM

^ Agreed. Building more rental to convert later.

I hope that WPE turns out to be as pretty as WPW.

Building WPE before building WPS will probably create construction problems for WPS. Nothing insurmountable. But accessfor construction and space to store building materials might be tight.

Kumdogmillionaire Apr 21, 2016 4:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilton (Post 7415795)
^ Agreed. Building more rental to convert later.

I hope that WPE turns out to be as pretty as WPW.

Building WPE before building WPS will probably create construction problems for WPS. Nothing insurmountable. But accessfor construction and space to store building materials might be tight.

As someone with little knowledge on the construction process, can you explain why building the east building first will lead to problems for the south tower?

BVictor1 May 5, 2016 2:11 AM

So, a little birdie told me this evening that the developers/architects are looking to go taller and thinner for the east tower :cheers:

I don't have any specific height, but like I've mentioned before, there will more than likely be another community meeting and they'll have to go back before the plan commission.

Seeing as they're looking at residential, they don't need the bulky floor plates depicted in previous placeholder iterations.

munchymunch May 5, 2016 2:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7431633)
So, a little birdie told me this evening that the developers/architects are looking to go taller and thinner for the east tower :cheers:

I don't have any specific height, but like I've mentioned before, there will more than likely be another community meeting and they'll have to go back before the plan commission.

Seeing as they're looking at residential, they don't need the bulky floor plates depicted in previous placeholder iterations.

So we are looking at something in the 800 foot range? Also how would this effect the south tower? Thanks for the news Victor. :cheers:

BVictor1 May 5, 2016 2:40 AM

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Originally Posted by munchymunch (Post 7431653)
So we are looking at something in the 800 foot range? Also how would this effect the south tower? Thanks for the news Victor. :cheers:

As mentioned, I have no idea of the 'new' height. The bulk/square footage might me the same as before, just thinned and stretched.

Steely Dan May 5, 2016 5:21 AM

^ intriguing. Thinner & taller sounds good to me.

nomarandlee May 5, 2016 5:25 AM

Going thinner and taller obviously could also be a benefit in for units in the eventual South Tower that face east. The original East Tower did look a little hefty. Sounds like a win-win all around. Hopefully we can maybe get this baby up to between 850-900 feet.

BrandonJXN May 5, 2016 10:35 AM

In an ideal world, I imagine Wolf Point East will be around 925 feet tall, and Wolf Point South will be around 1,100 feet tall. Which would suit anyone just fine.

The Lurker May 5, 2016 1:34 PM

No!!! Goddamn it NO!!! Stop the speculation at once! Not even 12 hours has passed and already three people are throwing numbers around. Bvic's post clearly stated that no height figure was yet available.

I renew my call for a speculation thread to be opened so the mods can throw all speculative posts into a circle jerk of supertall fanboys.

Steely Dan May 5, 2016 1:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lurker (Post 7431995)
No!!! Goddamn it NO!!! Stop the speculation at once! Not even 12 hours has passed and already three people are throwing numbers around. Bvic's post clearly stated that no height figure was yet available.

I renew my call for a speculation thread to be opened so the mods can throw all speculative posts into a circle jerk of supertall fanboys.

calm down.

if people want to speculate about what "taller & thinner" might mean for the east tower, then that's perfectly acceptable discussion for this thread.

UPChicago May 5, 2016 2:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lurker (Post 7431995)
No!!! Goddamn it NO!!! Stop the speculation at once! Not even 12 hours has passed and already three people are throwing numbers around. Bvic's post clearly stated that no height figure was yet available.

I renew my call for a speculation thread to be opened so the mods can throw all speculative posts into a circle jerk of supertall fanboys.

:sly: maybe you should continue to lurk..... geez

The Lurker May 5, 2016 2:19 PM

Ok point taken. But its also possible that the developers intend to build taller and thinner than the west tower and not necessarily taller than the current place holder.

pilsenarch May 5, 2016 2:22 PM

^huh, lurker... interesting speculation... :P

go go white sox May 5, 2016 2:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lurker (Post 7432038)
Ok point taken. But its also possible that the developers intend to build taller and thinner than the west tower and not necessarily taller than the current place holder.

I doubt that because the East tower was always intended to be taller then the west tower so they have to be talking about the current East tower as proposed. Furthermore, when they said thinner again this must be in reference to the massive East tower. I mean otherwise it wouldn't make sense how much more thinner can you get than the west tower.

Kumdogmillionaire May 5, 2016 4:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lurker (Post 7431995)
No!!! Goddamn it NO!!! Stop the speculation at once! Not even 12 hours has passed and already three people are throwing numbers around. Bvic's post clearly stated that no height figure was yet available.

I renew my call for a speculation thread to be opened so the mods can throw all speculative posts into a circle jerk of supertall fanboys.

I was waiting for this to become a sarcastic comment and it never came. I hope the buildings both end up being over 20 miles tall :)


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