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BillinGlendaleCA

Sep 13, 2021 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9394048)

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Here's a map that shows the Glen Oaks Tract. (1927)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Yrvf6y.jpg
LAPL

"A map showing the location of the new Glen Oaks Tract in Glendale, located in the northeast portion. It states, "Glen Oaks has an ideal climate with a daily cool breeze direct from the ocean." Also, "Five great viaducts will soon permit a choice of easy routes from downtown Los Angeles or Hollywood to Glen Oaks." The bridges are indicated on the map."

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The eastern portion of the Glenoaks development was never built, instead becoming the Scholl Canyon landfill.

ethereal_reality

Sep 13, 2021 12:44 AM

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Mystery street corner.

I happened upon three slides (on eBay) that show a parade in Los Angeles in the 1940s.

Here are two of the three.

Seller's description:...Los Angeles Street Scene Signs Parade 1940s 35mm Slide Red Border Kodachrome B

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/zQm7hU.jpg
eBay

Does anyone recognize the street corner?

Slide #2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/BjXfi9.jpg
eBay

:previous: The Blarney Stone Cafe.. "One All Night".....................................................................Is that Will Rogers?

The third slide is almost a duplicate of the second slide. . .

. .except for these three different flags marching by.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FGBVFW.jpg
detail

I have no idea what the parade is commemorating. Does anyone want to wager a guess -

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Lorendoc

Sep 13, 2021 3:34 AM

parade

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9394353)

These people are marching east on W. 1st street from Broadway. The flags in the last picture are the Royal Standard of Scotland, Old Glory, and the Union Jack. Note the pipers behind the flags.

Noir_Noir

Sep 13, 2021 7:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9394100)

I see a possible connection between George Lehman, of the Round House, and Elijah H. Workman, who moved the log cabin from Main St. to his residence on Boyle Heights (address 120 S. Boyle):

Speculation: Lehman's helping to plant the trees and later special efforts to water the trees or tree seedlings which were supplied by Workman perhaps grew from a friendship between the two, or at least could hardly not have engendered subsequent good feelings between the two. Workman having already just moved a log cabin from Main St. to Boyle Heights, he may well have been in a mood to honor his now-deceased friend by also moving a structure so associated with that friend Lehman, the Round House. I suspect, then, that it was Workman who bought the place and, now possessing it via owning the structure (hence the line in the article that Boyle Heights "possesses" the Round House), let his plans about moving it to Boyle Heights be known, and so it was already looked on by at least one reporter as being a certainty. Going further out on a limb, I then suspect that, when it came time to actually take down the Round House and prepare it for moving, it was found that it was in too bad shape for the move and/or to be re-erected, and so the plans were dropped.

:cheers:

While you were speculating productively, I was having a dream.

Me and Sanborn were wandering past Elijah Workman's place at 120 S. Boyle in 1894.

https://i.imgur.com/UszRLpN.jpg

And there it was sitting proudly in the grounds.

The old Round House!

:eeekk:

But then I awoke ... and it was gone.

https://i.imgur.com/GUn4P1m.jpg
www.loc.gov

Across the street at John Amestoy's place (131), the sound of a windmill's blades creaking gently in the breeze lulled me back to dreams again.

:runaway:

odinthor

Sep 13, 2021 5:05 PM

:previous:

Thanks, Noir_Noir! Dreams are important: "'Dreams! Dreams!' some may say [disparagingly]. If it were not for the dreamers, there would not be much accomplished in this world. Have a vision of the things you want to do, and then have the purpose of mind, the stability to stick at it and work it out and you will get results" (E.G. Hill, successful hybridizer, in the 1922 American Rose Annual).

And your posting gives me an idea. It would be useful? interesting? to have the dimensions of the log cabin which has found mention recently. Until Elijah Workman moved it, he had been giving it refuge on his lot on Main between 11th and 12th for quite some time (according to one of the articles). Could anyone with access to early (pre-1886) Sanborn maps check to see if said cabin can be spotted on that lot, and what specs are indicated for it?

Jungmann

Sep 13, 2021 10:25 PM

Great picture of the dude with the car, ER. Looks like an Ivy League gangster and the car looks like a gangster car. Thanks.

Any idea where?

We lived on 5th street and Crescent Heights back in the 70's, Our neighbors had two gangster uncles. Whenever they left the house, one would come out, look up and down the street, then motion to the other one waiting in the doorway. And this was Crescent Heights.

odinthor

Sep 14, 2021 7:11 PM

Looking for something else, I just ran across this pic of the famous old Aliso Tree, and am wondering if the image is new to NLA (I didn't see it in a quick search):

https://i.postimg.cc/BbYxx5Zj/Aliso-...T-1899-1-1.jpg
LA Times, January 1, 1899.

ethereal_reality

Sep 14, 2021 8:26 PM

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A recent find on eBay. (no longer listed)

Here's an intriguing rppc of what looks like a hotel.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/wgRfwP.jpg

What makes it especially interesting is the fact that it was postmarked at Colegrove Station! (shown below)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/mjluZ3.jpg

And as most of you know, Colegrove, before it disappeared from maps, was directly south of Hollywood.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/HQHmso.jpg
1900 topographic map. Courtesy of the USGS Historical Topographic Map Collection.

via KCET

I glanced through some of the old nla post that mention Colegrove but I didn't see any photographs that resembled the structure shown in the rppc.

The seller added this:..."The banner on the home may have something to do with a tailor.
Hard to make out."

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mrfredmertz

Sep 15, 2021 4:29 AM

Is that Will Rogers? Only if he reincarnated for the parade.

Flyingwedge

Sep 15, 2021 4:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9394850)

And your posting gives me an idea. It would be useful? interesting? to have the dimensions of the log cabin which has found mention recently. Until Elijah Workman moved it, he had been giving it refuge on his lot on Main between 11th and 12th for quite some time (according to one of the articles). Could anyone with access to early (pre-1886) Sanborn maps check to see if said cabin can be spotted on that lot, and what specs are indicated for it?

The Los Angeles Sanborn Maps only go back to 1888, and the grounds of Elijah Workman's 120 S. Boyle Avenue appear to be the same
in 1888 as they did in 1894. The largest of the two buildings at the rear of the property looks to be maybe 10' x 12', should one of
those be the cabin from the 1886 parade.

I checked the Huntington Digital Library, but I found no maps showing Workman's place at 11th and Main. USC has a photo of that
Workman property, but there's no old cabin in the frame: https://digitallibrary.usc.edu/Share...ar2u2u1as32xmp

What do we think of the USCDL's new format?

The July 6, 1886, Los Angeles Times' description of the July 4 parade mentions the man who apparently moved the same cabin
described in your earlier post:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...e_-_marked.jpg

ProQuest via La Public Library

odinthor

Sep 15, 2021 3:48 PM

:previous:

Thanks, FW! I really appreciate it.

The house-mover in question appears to be William A. Tibbetts. "Tibbetts" is a name which can vary infinitely in records, I've found; but in the 1884-1885 CD I find him as "Tibbetts W.A.", at 33 Temple; and, in 1888, "Tibbetts William A." residing on the east side of North Chestnut "nr Pasadena Av". By 1902, he's "Tibbits Wm A" at 458 N Avenue 121 (if it's the same person) . . . and . . . I didn't check any further . . .

ethereal_reality

Sep 15, 2021 9:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 9394427)

These people are marching east on W. 1st street from Broadway. The flags in the last picture are the Royal Standard of Scotland, Old Glory, and the Union Jack. Note the pipers behind the flags.

Thanks for the information, Lorendoc, and for identifying the flags. ....It's sad that the whole area is long gone.

I wonder what kind of 'Magic Oil' Tuey was selling...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/eN3SXL.jpg
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I tried to find more information on the seemingly out of place Blarney Stone Cafe but, unless I overlooked it, it doesn't appear in any of the city directories.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/cV4SuC.jpg
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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfredmertz (Post 9396543)

Is that Will Rogers? Only if he reincarnated for the parade.

That's why they were having the parade.

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mrfredmertz

Sep 16, 2021 12:45 AM

Where us the HAHA!!!! button?

ethereal_reality

Sep 16, 2021 8:06 PM

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Mystery penguins.

Seller's description:..."Vintage 1920’s Los Angeles Gas Station w/ 2 Penguins Snapshot"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/KtXQM5.jpg
eBay

Actually it's out of work actors in penguin costumes! . . .at a gas station.

I initially thought it was a marketing ploy for a drive-through film developing hut because there's a picture of a box camera in the window.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/CogoAn.jpg
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Then I realized it's a picture of a car battery. :blush:... . or a washing machine.

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HossC

Sep 16, 2021 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9397322)

I tried to find more information on the seemingly out of place Blarney Stone Cafe but, unless I overlooked it, it doesn't appear in any of the city directories.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/cV4SuC.jpg
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You're expecting to find the Blarney Stone Cafe on No Irish LA? ;)

I found this reference with a matching address at 234 W 1st Street in a publication dated at 1942. The 1942 CD lists a restaurant belonging to Mrs Agatha Buckendorff at that location, but the business name is given.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...StoneCafe1.jpg
www.jstor.org

The 1956 CD shows The Redwood House at 234 W 1st Street. It's visible in a 1958 picture at the Huntington Digital Library which shows the corner building being demolished.

ethereal_reality

Sep 16, 2021 9:37 PM

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That's a good find, Hoss. I looked and looked and found nothing.

Here's a closer look at the Huntington photograph showing the old Blarney Stone space (Redwood House) and the corner building that had the fountain service.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/eZ29vb.jpg

Seeing that corner building being torn down makes me sad. Imagine all the memories people had shopping there & visiting the fountain service.

I'm trying to figure out how the Redwood House sign has a R and E at the beginning. . .all I see is ODWOOD.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/jiWaWK.jpg

It looks vaguely nautical to me. .like a ship's wheel or a float....Or perhaps the circle part is supposed to be a wagon wheel. :shrug:

By the way as most of you know DEBS that you see on the political posters is for Ernest Debs, not the famous socialist Eugene Debs. I used to always get them confused.
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ethereal_reality

Sep 16, 2021 10:01 PM

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A mystery in Pasadena. (AKA..I've never seen this structure before)

Seller's description:...Pasadena, California, Water Tower and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/1dPkR4.jpg
eBay

If it is a water tower why all the windows?

It occurred me that this might be a Pasadena in a different state but when you look at the surroundings it certainly looks like Pasadena California.

Here's the slide.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/iM5phe.jpg
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Martin Pal

Sep 17, 2021 6:16 AM

Developers Propose a New Hollywood Office Tower
Location: Sunset Blvd. near Gower. A creation of MAD Architects, an architecture firm known for daring designs.
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-09-16/hollywood-high-rise-office-with-rooftop-restaurant-planned

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...ollywood-1.jpg

stanklem

Sep 17, 2021 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9398843)

FWIW, am an architect. Try hard not to comment on others designs.
This is an overwrought, over the top, out of scale, and out of context monster gussied up in some green to make it more palatable to approving entities. Am wondering if it is fancied as a locus and local home for PRC media influencers. In process of writing local community boards and City of LA Planning Department to express concerns.

Lwize

Sep 17, 2021 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9398843)

FWIW, I love it. :tup:

It's LA, it's Hollywood, it's Sunset Blvd.
Who needs another boring building?

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