http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...9Pei2YAKSBkLuN

Gary Barnett puts vacant W. 57th site on block

By LOIS WEISS
March 12, 2013

^^Illuminating.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7122/solow.jpg

9 w57th Solow

20-22 w57th Solow
16-18 w57th Barnett is selling this one
10-14 w57th Solow
6-8 w57th Solow

Assuming Extell sells to Solow, we will likely see something very tall, skinny and expensive.

I would imagine this site could get the highest prices of all the proposed 57th Street towers.

I mean, this tower would be right off Fifth Avenue, and with drop-dead views of the park, as long as the massing were on the far east side of the lot. Of course, if it were extremely tall, they could mass it wherever, because it would tower over everything.

In any case, most residents would have incredible park views.

How about a height race between Extell and Solow? I'd love to see that! :)

Those four parcels would be about half the size of the 225w57 development. Does Solow own any other properties on (the south side of) the block?

You mean 56th Street? Don't know who owns those sites. But a tower there would be in the neighborhood of spectacular residential towers, of which 57th Street is seeing more of.

Yeah, I meant the 56th street side of the block. Solow would have to at least buy the air-rights from those buildings in order to build a tower rivaling 225w57. I don't think the existing parcels would be enough.

I don't think you neccesarily have to go that high. Anything above 700 ft would offer unobstructed views over the park to the north.


http://www.earthinpictures.com/world...7th_street.jpg
http://www.earthinpictures.com/world...th_street.html


The Nordstrom tower, with its large store base would just be on a different scale.

This is good news for us skyscraper fans, but not so good for Trump and his shorter towers.

Dam ! still no render for this building ?

This tower could be under construction before we get an actual rendering. That was the case with One57, Beekman, and a few others. But I do expect that Barnett will make the transition from excavation (once that begins) directly into construction. I don't think we'll have a pit to look at for long.

You mean like the one a block away?

http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-co...89-hearst2.jpg
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While developers like Vornado talk about what's "impossible" to build at this time, Gary Barnett gets the "balls of the year" award for continuing to believe in the City. There's a lot of competition, but he wins because he could have rested on the success of One57.



http://observer.com/25th-anniversary...l-development/

Gary Barnett: President, Extell Development


http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...pg?w=300&h=450


By The Editors 3/13/13



:tup:

That's the spirit, Barnett is our man when it comes to skyscraper construction.

The ecoomy might be shaky, but the residential market in New York is hot. So I wouldn't call him a risk-taker at all.

So, this is the man (Gary Barnett) that's giving Donald Trump some serious real estate competition! :D

Donald Trump is practically irrelevant when it comes to NYC real estate. He's a (fading) media brand.

The residential market in Manhattan is hot, but developers still have a hard time getting financing. But that doesn't stop Barnett, he gets the ball rolling, confident he will put together a financial package to get things done, as he has with One57. When construction started there (with no financing), things weren't as hot as they are now, so yes, he was a big risk taker, and he's been rewarded for it. Now, a lot of other developers are jumping on the bandwagon, as evidenced by the number of residential towers now proposed to go up around Midtown.

So what you are suggesting is that Gary Barnett is leading the way for other developers to follow. ;)

And follow they are, just look at the explosion of new residential towers with views planned for the area.

And you think that, after One57 and Nordstrom tower, Barnett can will build even more high towers in that area?

There are so many opportunities in Manhattan, not just limited to Central Park that will surprise you! :cool:

He owns a number of plots in prime parts of Midtown, so yes, it's certainly probable.

If anything, Barnett seems to just be getting started.

Yeah, as long as demand stays as strong as it is (and it shows no signs of slowing in Manhattan), there'll be new buildings. Barnett expects the success of his One57 to flow into the Nordstrom tower. Once this one is well under way, and the units are selling, there will inevitably be the "what next?". I'm sure there are already plans in motion for the next big thing (not counting all of Extell's other current developments).


For those interested, some results from the soil tests...
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/BS...de=ES594976174



http://ic2.pbase.com/o4/06/102706/1/...6mCRHvc.d1.JPG

Donald Who?

Some nice models made by Funkyskunk2:

http://i.imgur.com/QkELihm.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5283603...n/photostream/
http://i.imgur.com/UUF8Mm6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/t9wIe04.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6yN4eSf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HlZCl34.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nGSyxMq.png

http://i.imgur.com/jkR5eK0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4Z2pGud.png

This will dominate the skyline.

Thanks a lot for the help!

These are cool, but where's my Tower Verre? :(

:(

Some encouraging news...

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/130319854

Extell moves closer to building city's tallest spire

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Extell moves closer to building city's tallest spire
By Matt Chaban
March 19, 2013

It would be fantastic if this turns out even taller than the already stellar 1,550ft. :yes:

^ One post above you. :D

I'm positive this will break the 500m mark...:slob:

Yes, those are cool. Is that the 2,000 foot version? :)

Yeah, we'll go from demo/excavation into construction mode when this begins. So excited for it. I'm ready for renderings, but I'll settle for definitive height figures when we can get them. The 15 to 18 month estimate is likely for getting the foundation ready.

:D

Indeed it would be, and I'm confident we are in for a real treat here (design - and heightwise). :yes:

Nope, it's a model for a ~500m tall tower.

I *do* trust that these drawings are in fact massing models and come nowhere near to indicating the final design.

I even now feel compelled to ask this rhetorically, since when I first saw these today, I was given a bit of a start. I mean, I would like to see something with bold contours and *an actual spire-like element*; not simply a box-derivative with...oh-I-dunno...a perfunctory, token crown for an afterthought.

I actually really like the un-official renderings, at least from this angle! I'm hoping the final design is something very similar to this, compliments One57 nicely!

http://i.imgur.com/QkELihm.jpg
-funkyskunk2

But 2018 though? Oh man, a 5 year construction cycle really shows the height and complexity of this tower. Without even seeing the design we know its going to be a monster.

That's to get the tower completed, though for us its more likely 2017. For most people, though the store opening in 2018 will probably be more noteworthy.

That unofficial render looks more like 2,000 feet.

Nice, but I won't be impressed until I see the official render for myself.

Wow cant wait for this baby to get off the ground and rise, it will be seen for miles!

Those renders look great. It would be incredible to see this building rise over 2,000 feet, or at least become the tallest in the city. Any chances of that happening??

:fingerscrossed: Keep your fingers crossed! :fingerscrossed:

Oh man, can't wait till 2015! The skyline is rapidly being altered and getting higher.

Since the Pingan International Finance Centre in Shenzhen might not get built to full height, Extell should buy this plan from KPF and rework it to fit the lot on 225W 57th Street. This would look fabulous in the New York skyline.

http://www.kpf.com/projects/Project163/14559_hr.jpg
http://www.kpf.com/project.asp?S=1&ID=163

I was thinking the same thing -- the design is too good not to wind up somewhere -- except I think it belongs Downtown, among Woolworth, 70 Pine and the rest.

=d

Personally, I'm hoping for the Miglin-Beitner skyneedlehttp://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...ings/m-b_1.jpg

Square footage and footprint would be just about right for this proposal

Pingan is perfect, and would be fantastic Downtown; I'd love to see One World Trade Center & its twiggy antenna cower in the presence of a true 2,000' tower.

:)

Also, the Skyneedle is beyond heinous. Wow.

I think we'll see something more cutting-edge than One57, and it has been stated it won't have a spire. I still think we see an angular top, so there may be some extra height after 1,550' but it won't be significant.

Pingan has 3 times the floor area that this tower will have. Not gonna happen.

Just like what scalziand said nowhere near enough floor area, expect something in terms of size like 432.

I think the Miglin-B skyneedle provides a good massing model as its square footage is similar, at 1.36 million...

The skyneedle looks outdated though.