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Trevor3 Jun 3, 2014 1:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 6602496)
i wonder why they don't have more direct flights to alberta, all the newfies i work with it seems to take them days to go they bounce around canada for about 2 days to get home

This is one of those tricky things, there are a lot of NLer's in AB but there are far more in southern Ontario. So airlines are much more happy to funnel the traffic into Pearson and onto St. John's. Conversely, people flying into the smaller NL airports will typically fly from Edmonton to either Toronto or Ottawa, then to Halifax, and then finally arrive in NL at 2am. It makes more sense to use large planes to funnel the NL bound traffic into Halifax and then basically shuttle them across the water in Dash-8's.

There are some direct flights between AB and NL but they are chartered flights by the oil companies to fly people home on their turnarounds. Flair did do one into Stephenville for a while, Canadian North does one into Deer Lake, etc... from Fort Mac.

SignalHillHiker Jun 3, 2014 1:32 AM

I think the chartered flights usually have chartered buses to complete the trip. At YYT, you always hear announcements such as, "Members of X Union, the bus to the Long Harbour site departs from the Arrivals Gate in 15 minutes.", "The shuttle to the Bull Arm site will depart from the Arrivals Gate in 15 minutes.", etc.

SpongeG Jun 3, 2014 5:06 AM

ahh, i always feel sorry for them when they travel with limited time off

Bigtime Jun 3, 2014 1:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 6601988)
Wow, it actually does beat Goose Bay and Stephenville in length. :) Ours are fewer than 12,000 feet long.

Our current longest runway; 17R/35L, is longer than those two at 12,675'.

suburbia Jun 5, 2014 12:24 AM

Passed by there within the last couple weeks. It is totally epic. Makes sense for among the fastest growing airports.

The other thing very noticeable is the logistics / distribution systems this airport supports. Fantastic.

spaceprobe Jun 5, 2014 5:35 AM

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Originally Posted by suburbia (Post 6605895)
Passed by there within the last couple weeks. It is totally epic. Makes sense for among the fastest growing airports.

The other thing very noticeable is the logistics / distribution systems this airport supports. Fantastic.

the purpose of the longest runway is not because it is a fast growing airport. It is because of the elevation of the airport. The news story about longest runway/tallest airport control tower is merely sensationalist journalism. The size of the expansion (number of gates) is more relevant to the airport's growth...but not interesting as a news story.

suburbia Jun 5, 2014 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spaceprobe (Post 6606219)
the purpose of the longest runway is not because it is a fast growing airport. It is because of the elevation of the airport. The news story about longest runway/tallest airport control tower is merely sensationalist journalism. The size of the expansion (number of gates) is more relevant to the airport's growth...but not interesting as a news story.

Never said it was, though reviewing can understand the misunderstanding.

Overall demand at #YYC is certainly behind this expansion, both cargo / logistics / distribution, as well as passenger. The insiders likely also have a view w.r.t. airline intentions over the coming decades. Very exciting. #YYC is clearly becoming the national / international hub for the two western prairie provinces.

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Originally Posted by cyeg66 (Post 6592996)
Posted over in the Canada section...

Pax YTD growth 2014, some authorities don't post monthly data, just percentage increases. Feel free to correct if you have any added info. I've limited the list to airports with 1000000+ pax.

YYZ: Jan-Mar 8,759,371 (+4.0%), rolling 12 mo: 36,447,871
YVR: Jan-Mar 4,353,130 (+7.5%), rolling 12 mo: 18,275,886
YYC: Jan-Mar 3,594,410 (+7.8%), rolling 12 mo: 14,576,047
YUL: Jan-Mar 3,516,817 (+0.7%), rolling 12 mo: 14,120,468
YEG: Jan-Apr 2,395,856 (+6.0%), rolling 12 mo: 7,118,538
YOW: Jan-Apr 1,548,902 (-1.0%), rolling 12 mo: 4,561,882
YHZ: nothing posted, rolling 12 mo: anyone's guess, 2013: 3,585,864
YWG: Jan-Mar 896,052 (+1.1%), rolling 12 mo: 3,493,352
YTZ: nothing posted, anyone's guess, 2013: approx 2,300,000
YYJ: Jan-Apr 500,242 (+6.4%), rolling 12 mo: 1,586,965
YLW: Jan-Apr 536,429 (+7.7%), rolling 12 mo: 1,541,622
YYT: nothing posted, anyone's guess, 2013: approx 1,500,000
YQB: Jan-Mar (no numbers posted) approx (+4.2%), 2013: 1,403,466
YXE: Jan-Apr (no numbers posted) (+6.5%) 2013: 1,389,900
YMM: Jan-Feb 200,756 (+11.5%), rolling 12 mo: 1,216,077
YQR: Jan-Mar (no numbers posted) (+3.5%), 2013: 1,227,234


Innsertnamehere Jun 6, 2014 12:48 AM

Did Calgary just pass Montreal? I didn't think they were even close to each other.

Denscity Jun 6, 2014 12:50 AM

^^^ Ya that just happened a couple of months ago.

SaskScraper Jun 6, 2014 1:07 AM

^^^^^ it's been a close heat for year's between Calgary's & Montreal's airports according to passenger count.. Calgary was busier than Montreal in 2008 as well as 2013
(same with Saskatoon & Quebec City)

SignalHillHiker Jun 6, 2014 5:38 PM

Air Canada is offering 15% off on flights to Gander or St. John's for anyone who wants to see an iceberg.

http://www.aircanada.com/en/offers/a...d.html#YWG-NTP

Also, they've apparently hired me as their Communications Specialist:

http://i61.tinypic.com/1434arb.jpg

:haha:

SkydivePilot Jun 9, 2014 4:43 AM

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Originally Posted by spaceprobe (Post 6606219)
the purpose of the longest runway is not because it is a fast growing airport. It is because of the elevation of the airport. The news story about longest runway/tallest airport control tower is merely sensationalist journalism. The size of the expansion (number of gates) is more relevant to the airport's growth...but not interesting as a news story.

Yup, . . and the media doesn't understand the principle of density altitude either.

Bigtime Jun 9, 2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SkydivePilot (Post 6610384)
Yup, . . and the media doesn't understand the principle of density altitude either.

Yeah, don't even waste your time trying to explain that. :haha:

SFUVancouver Jun 9, 2014 5:58 PM

That's quite the accomplishment for YYC to have surpassed YUL on a month-to-month basis and be on track to surpass it for the year. Considering the amount of legacy favouritism heaped on YUL by past governments, YYC surpassing it is a remarkable feat. Interesting that YOW is registering declines. Could that be as a result to restraint for government travel?

Chadillaccc Jun 9, 2014 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver (Post 6611004)
That's quite the accomplishment for YYC to have surpassed YUL on a month-to-month basis and be on track to surpass it for the year. Considering the amount of legacy favouritism heaped on YUL by past governments, YYC surpassing it is a remarkable feat. Interesting that YOW is registering declines. Could that be as a result to restraint for government travel?

YYC surpassed YUL last year by over 100 000 passengers. For Ottawa, it's weird. Even their public transit system is registering declines. Some people have suggested that it is due to the layoffs in government, so you could be right.

jmt18325 Jun 9, 2014 10:38 PM

That doesn't explain what's happening in Winnipeg though.

spaceprobe Jun 9, 2014 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver (Post 6611004)
That's quite the accomplishment for YYC to have surpassed YUL on a month-to-month basis and be on track to surpass it for the year. Considering the amount of legacy favouritism heaped on YUL by past governments, YYC surpassing it is a remarkable feat. Interesting that YOW is registering declines. Could that be as a result to restraint for government travel?

the main issue seems more that there is something wrong with YUL. Why would such a large and important city have such a relatively small airport. I think it is all a legacy of the Mirabel experiment, ending up with multiple international airlines leaving Montreal and shifting to Toronto. Only in recent years has Montreal started re-adding more international destinations from international airlines.

eemy Jun 10, 2014 11:39 AM

If you look at the where Montrealers fly, the deficit is almost entirely in domestic travel. It far surpasses Calgary in International travel and I believe somewhat surpasses it in transborder travel. This could reflect fewer family and business ties with the rest of North America?

SignalHillHiker Jun 10, 2014 11:41 AM

What's the difference between international and transborder?

eemy Jun 10, 2014 12:01 PM

Most Canadian airports (all?) separate US traffic from other international traffic.


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