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ChiND

Oct 28, 2024 2:45 PM

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PTL!!!! I've been waitingfor this for a very long time!! :cheers::cheers:

The City also should close the crappy stretch of 10th Avenue from Jane St to 14th St and make it a park. It has no impact on traffic.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/28/busine...-housing-deal/

Meatpacking District to lose last of its beef businesses as trendy nabe eyes new housing deal
By Steve Cuozzo
Published Oct. 28, 2024, 6:01 a.m. ET

https://nypost.com/wp-content/upload...y=75&strip=all

Crawford

Oct 28, 2024 4:26 PM

Very nice! An expanded Whitney Museum, and 600 units of housing. Sounds great.

Also, this is one of the ugliest blocks in NYC, so it will be great to have this junk eviscerated.

ChiND

Oct 28, 2024 4:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 10309136)

Very nice! An expanded Whitney Museum, and 600 units of housing. Sounds great.

Also, this is one of the ugliest blocks in NYC, so it will be great to have this junk eviscerated.

I totally agree!

NYguy

Oct 28, 2024 5:21 PM

But, but, but what about views of the High Line?

https://nypost.com/2024/10/28/busine...-housing-deal/

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The Meatpacking District’s last remaining meatpackers might soon give way to 600 rental apartments, a Whitney Museum expansion and new facilities for Friends of the High Line, Realty Check has learned.

Mayor Eric Adams’ “new vision” for what’s to be called Gansevoort Square includes “600 mixed-income housing units,” of which 300 would be affordable, as well as “a massive new open pavilion and the city’s next cultural and artistic hub.”

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But what happens next was unclear. A source said the meat companies weren’t obligated to move out “until a project for the site is secured.”

And although the city has prioritized housing, an insider said the agreement gives the Whitney “right of first offer” over the entire site.

ChiND

Oct 28, 2024 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10309168)

But, but, but what about views of the High Line?

I guarantee that these are the same jack asses that complained about the fish in connection with Little Island.

ChiND

Oct 28, 2024 8:57 PM

This sounds really nice.

"The new housing will be adjacent to an 11,200-square-foot public plaza that will host various events all year long...."

https://www.amny.com/news/gansevoort...strict-vision/

ChiND

Oct 28, 2024 10:21 PM

https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-meatp...d-public-space

mrnyc

Oct 29, 2024 3:43 PM

the whitney gets first dibs, so they’ll get a piece — and the highline will get a piece for offices or storage, but there will be plenty left for affordable housing. and hopefully its a tall one because it won’t be bothering anybody or their views. plus a public plaza? nice.

also — good job with the remaining meatpackers letting loose of the lease early, i’m sure they will appreciate a modern warehouse site somewhere vs that old building.

ChiND

Oct 29, 2024 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 10309788)

I agree. Upton Sinclair must be smiling in his grave.

NYguy

Oct 30, 2024 12:23 AM

https://s3-prod.crainsnewyork.com/st...igh%20Line.jpg
https://www.crainsnewyork.com/politi...tney-expansion

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ChiND

Oct 30, 2024 1:34 AM

That little stretch of Tenth Avenue should be closed and made into greenspace.

streetscaper

Oct 31, 2024 4:09 AM

Wasn't there a plan for pedestrianizing most of the meatpacking district, or a good portion of it?

Wonder if that's going anywhere.

NYguy

Nov 25, 2024 8:46 PM

https://www.businessinsider.nl/new-y...be-on-its-way/

New York City’s Meatpacking District will say goodbye to its last meatpacker — and a 60-story tower could be on its way

Grace Eliza Goodwin
25 nov 2024

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The era of New York City's Meatpacking District as a neighborhood where people actually pack meat is coming to an end.

Late last month, New York City Mayor Eric Adams unveiled plans to redevelop the district's last operating meat market after its tenants accepted a deal from the city to move out — and in the market's place could come a 60-story tower.

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Under the city's plan, the 66,000-square-foot Gansevoort Market would become Gansevoort Square, which, according to the mayor's office, would feature 600 mixed-income housing units, a new open pavilion, and a culture and arts hub.

And a New York state senator said there's a plan to build a 60-story skyscraper in the area — something a local historic preservation group said was out of scale for a neighborhood with mostly low-rise buildings.

The city hasn't confirmed the plans referenced by State Sen. Brad Hoylman-Sigal in a recent email newsletter he sent to constituents. The community group Village Preservation said Monday that a tower plan would likely be formally announced at an upcoming neighborhood Community Board meeting.

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A building that tall would dramatically alter the neighborhood's skyline, where the current tallest structure, The Standard Hotel, is 19 stories tall. The mayor's office didn't immediately return a request for comment on the possible skyscraper development.

ChiND

Nov 25, 2024 9:28 PM

I fully support building as tall as possible in Midtown or FiDi, but a 60-story tower here would look ridiculous. Nonetheless, I’m glad that this heinous eyesore is being redeveloped.

Crawford

Nov 26, 2024 12:45 AM

I would love to see some height here, tying the High Line and Hudson Square newcomers together, and making the Midtown/Lower Manhattan skylines more seamless.

But there's no doubt the West Village NIMBYs will go bonkers over a 60-floor tower. Expect lots of screaming and crying.

streetscaper

Nov 26, 2024 1:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10324627)

I fully support building as tall as possible in Midtown or FiDi, but a 60-story tower here would look ridiculous. Nonetheless, I’m glad that this heinous eyesore is being redeveloped.

Agree with this. Wouldn't mind some more height in in this small historic district, but 60 stories is ridiculous imo

NYguy

Nov 26, 2024 1:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 10324734)

Sixty stories as a residential isn't really that tall. It could just be a 600 ft residential tower. If it's on this site, even better, because it will be on the riverfront, not in the middle of a group of lowrise towers. That's no different than the multiple towers you see going up along the river in Brooklyn and Queens, or the Lower East Side for that matter. Too many people in the city are uptight about height, as the city desperately needs more of it. Thankfully the City of Yes just passed, even though there was a reduction in the number of units it would have produced.

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NYguy

Nov 26, 2024 2:00 AM

https://www.villagepreservation.org/...e-write-today/

URGENT PRESERVATION ALERT: City Plans for Meatpacking District Development May Include 60-Story Tower; Public Hearing December 11 — Please Write Today!

November 25, 2024

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According to a communication by State Senator Brad Hoylman-Sigal, the city’s recently announced plans for its “Gansevoort Square” development in the Meatpacking District will include an approximately 60-story building on the site of the city-owned Gansevoort Meat Market Center, south of Little West 12th Street between Washington and West Streets (north of the Whitney Museum).

While the particulars of this plan won’t be formally revealed until an upcoming Community Board public meeting, this report and other details indicate an enormous and unprecedented scale is being contemplated for development of this incredibly sensitive site.

Village Preservation had written to city officials In response to their earlier announcement — which contained no particulars about the potential size or scale of the building — emphasizing the need to ensure any development here relates well in terms of size, scale and design to its surroundings. Apparently that message was more desperately needed than we could have possibly imagined.

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According to the city’s prior announcement, the development they intend to build would include space for the Whitney Museum and Friends of the High Line, as well as 600 units of housing — at least half of which would be market-rate, or very expensive luxury condos or rentals. As per our communication to city officials, the need for very expensive housing for the ultra-wealthy on this publicly owned land is questionable at best. One very simple way to dramatically reduce the size of the proposed development is to eliminate the hundreds of units of planned luxury housing.

Yeah, God forbid someone try to actually increase the percentage of affordable units. But it's the City of Yes now. They'd best get used to it, lol.

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ChiND

Nov 26, 2024 3:05 AM

The West Village, Chelsea, and the Meat Packing District are gorgeous, historic areas. A massive tower would detract from those neighborhoods. I’d enthusiastically embrace 2,000 foot towers in Midtown or in the West Yards, despite the NIMBYS’ disingenuous claims about the High Line. However, I would not want a colossal tower here.

NYC2ATX

Nov 26, 2024 5:47 AM

Hey, the easiest way to get a 40-story building built is to propose a 60-story building, invite a controversy, and ultimately have the preservationists think they won and got away with something, while you go ahead and build your 40-story building. :tup::cheers:

UrbanImpact

Nov 26, 2024 2:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10324778)

https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...n11400x775.jpg

Beautiful renders that they chose! :haha:

DCReid

Nov 26, 2024 2:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10324806)

I agree! It should be no taller than the Standard Hotel, which I think is kind of brutish. A similar size and height would offset that bland hotel.

SkyHigher

Nov 26, 2024 8:22 PM

Should be something along the lines of twin pork chop shaped towers in homage to the area. Instead it appears so far design wise is a great misteak.

:rolleyes:

Busy Bee

Nov 26, 2024 8:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC2ATX (Post 10324877)

Tres true.

I think something in the 30 range is the sweet spot here though.

BK1985

Nov 26, 2024 9:31 PM

I think if the height gets cut, then they should be allowed to build the remaining buildable area on the piers across the street. while im at it might as well continue to speculate. Morris Adjmi should design since they are really good with historical context.

DarknessIgnite

Nov 27, 2024 4:29 AM

60 stories would easily make it the tallest between midtown and the financial district. I say build it!

The city needs hundreds of thousands more units of housing. And quite frankly this part of manhattan is underbuilt.

Hopefully if this project gets built it starts a chain of similar projects across the rest of manhattan

mrnyc

Nov 30, 2024 4:37 AM

they should definitely build as tall as possible here. like i said noone lives near it and so it literally bothers no one. any whiners who come out of the woodwork do not have a leg to stand on. hopefully that guy who has been living on the street right behind the standard for many years can get a place there.

liat91

Nov 30, 2024 5:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarknessIgnite (Post 10325434)

I agree. A tasteful tower, but build.

mrnyc

Nov 30, 2024 7:29 AM

^ its public housing so its not going to be toppest shelf architecture like say 80 clarkson down the street, but hopefully its tasteful and not an eyesore like that silly render. it would be nice if the local more activist minded community remained watchful over good design rather than just worry over height.

NYguy

Jan 29, 2025 6:15 PM

https://www.villagepreservation.org/...evoort-square/

City Must Change Plans for 600-ft. Tower in the Meatpacking District, Eliminate Super-Luxury Housing

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In addition to an expansion of the neighboring Whitney Museum and space for Friends of the High Line, the City is seeking to build on public land an approximately 600-ft.-tall apartment tower on Little West 12th Street between Washington and West Streets containing 600 apartments, the majority of which would be super-luxury. They are seeking to move as quickly as possible to find a developer for the project, saying they will issue a Request for Proposals in late January.

Village Preservation has expressed outrage about the plan, urging the scale be dramatically reduced, and the luxury apartments eliminated.

The City’s claims that their scheme is necessary to make building affordable housing possible and expeditious is patently false.

Tell City Officials the Supertall Tower and Luxury Apartments Must Go

ChiND

Jan 29, 2025 6:38 PM

Presumably, the Reds and Anarchists at "Village Preservation" can't block this. Is that correct?

Down with Leninism!

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NYguy

Jan 29, 2025 8:27 PM

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/politi...erik-bottchers

Gansevoort Square residential tower plan advances despite local councilman's pushback

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NICK GARBER
EDDIE SMALL
Jan29, 2025

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Mayor Eric Adams' administration is advancing plans to build a large residential tower on the city-owned site of Manhattan's last meatpacking plant — but is contending with some unexpected opposition from the local City Council member.

On Wednesday morning the city released a request for proposals for its Gansevoort Square project, which calls for developers to build up to 600 housing units and ground-floor retail on the site, located on Little West 12th Street between 10th Avenue and Washington Street in the Meatpacking District. At least half of the residential units ideally would be permanently affordable, and the city has specified that they should be funded by the developer rather than public subsidies.

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EDC expects to choose the winning team by the end of the year. Officials then hope to see the land-use review process wrap up by the end of 2026 and the project completed by mid- to late-2027.

The housing site covers 10,000 square feet of the roughly 66,000-square-foot block. Because the city is giving itself a small section of the public site, a developer will need to build tall — more than 500 feet high, according to a December presentation by EDC — to accommodate the 600 homes that the city is requesting.

That has sparked early opposition from preservationists — complicating the political landscape for local Councilman Erik Bottcher, who will get final say on the project once it reaches the City Council next year. The neighborhood group Village Preservation has come out against the project, labeling the tower “ludicrously oversized.”

On Tuesday, the eve of the RFP’s release, Bottcher posted on X that he had asked the EDC to pause the solicitation, calling the planned tower “obviously out of scale for the Meatpacking District.” The stance was unexpected, given that Bottcher has typically aligned himself with pro-development causes.

NYguy

Jan 29, 2025 8:48 PM

https://www.nyc.gov/office-of-the-ma...d-mixed-income

Mayor Adams, NYCEDC Announce Next Steps in Reimagining Gansevoort Square to Build Mixed-Income Housing, Create Open Space, and Deliver Thousands of Jobs

January 29, 2025

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The Request for Proposals (RFP) outlines a vision for up to 600 units of mixed-income housing — with a goal of 50 percent of total units being permanently affordable — and ground-floor retail space, both which will be located on the residential site of Gansevoort Square.

First announced in October 2024, this bold redevelopment will transform the approximately 66,000 square feet at Gansevoort Square into mixed-income housing units, new open space, and the opportunity to expand the Whitney Museum of American Art and the High Line — cementing the Meatpacking District as a global destination, economic engine, and cultural and artistic hub for the city.

The Gansevoort Square redevelopment project — including the residential site and Whitney Museum Expansion — is expected to create 2,600 construction jobs and more than 160 permanent jobs. Finally, the full project is expected to generate $940 million in economic impact.

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“We’re tackling generational, city-changing projects in all five boroughs because our administration doesn’t shy away from challenges — we embrace them as opportunities to deliver for New Yorkers,” said Mayor Adams. “Today, we’re taking the next step on an ambitious project — transforming 66,000 square feet at Gansevoort Square into 600 mixed-income housing units, massive new, open space, and the city’s next cultural and artistic hub. The potential we have here is endless, and we’re excited to take the next steps towards turning our vision into a reality. We are building a new, exciting chapter in Manhattan to make our city more affordable and the best place to raise a family."

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A competitive response to this RFP must describe a comprehensive plan to accomplish the following goals:

-Deliver up to 600 mixed-income residential units with a goal of 50 percent of total units as permanently affordable;

-Achieve or exceed the goal of 50 percent of total units as permanently affordable without public subsidy by leveraging the value generated by market-rate residential units and ground-floor retail space;

-Design the site to encourage active street life and creatively design the building to become an iconic addition to the New York City skyline, joining the illustrious architecture along the High Line;

-Promote sustainability, energy efficiency, carbon neutrality, and resiliency; and

-Responsibly develop the project to advance goals of creating quality construction and building service jobs while adhering to applicable wage standards and labor protections.

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Proposals are due by 11:59 PM Eastern Time on April 30, 2025. For more information and details on how to apply, visit NYCEDC’s website. NYCEDC anticipates selecting a developer by the end of 2025. The project anticipates certifying into the Uniform Land Use Review Procedure by the end of 2026, with expected completion in mid-to-late 2027.

It’s funny how “Friends of the High Line” can sing a different tune when it comes to towers and the casino proposal….

https://www.nyc.gov/office-of-the-ma...d-mixed-income

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"Friends of the High Line is excited to move forward with the city and the Whitney Museum in exploring this exciting opportunity to expand our operations building to meet the growing demands of the park," said Alan van Capelle, executive director, Friends of the High Line. "Since opening 15 years ago, the High Line's physical footprint has tripled in length and grown to welcome nearly seven million annual visitors — more than 20 times initial expectations. Additional space would give us room to address the park’s evolving operations needs, serve the appetite of New Yorkers for year-round programming, and increase our impact on New York City."

NYguy

Jan 30, 2025 12:23 AM

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...king-district/

City Council member Erik Bottcher blasted for opposing Gansevoort tower project
Is ‘out of scale’ a legitimate complaint in a city with a housing crisis?

January 29, 2025
By Erik Engquist

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Manhattan Council member Erik Bottcher started a firestorm with a single tweet about the Adams administration’s plan for an apartment tower called Gansevoort Square.

“I strongly believe in the need to build more housing in all neighborhoods, but a height of 600 feet (60 stories) is obviously out of scale for the Meatpacking District,” he wrote Tuesday.

Readers pounced on the contradiction, noting that someone who “strongly” believes the city needs more housing — as Bottcher has been claiming — wouldn’t shrink a Manhattan project that would deliver 600 units, up to half of them affordable, without any public subsidy.

“Dude, what? This is straight NIMBY,” commented Peter Pierce.

“WTF are you doing — we need more housing,” Albin Henneberger chimed in.

“Very disappointing to hear this from you,” wrote Harry Heymann. “There’s no reason why we can’t build lots and lots of new housing in the Meatpacking District (and elsewhere!)”

“Erik Noooooooo Erik! You were one of the good guys!” wrote Urbanroaddiet.

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Within 24 hours, more than 200 comments had piled up, all but two of them negative. Many were along the lines of, “Is that not in fucking Manhattan?” and “Move to Iowa if you hate tall buildings.”

Only two commenters took Bottcher’s side. “You’re right, Erik. Don’t cave,” one wrote.

“People are missing the point. 600 feet ~is~ out of scale for the area currently. That doesn’t mean high rises are inappropriate but a random 600-foot one certainly is,” Patrick Constant wrote. “I live in Washington Heights and we got our first high rise, 28 stories. Comparatively huge but it fits in.”

But pro-housing advocates have been fighting the notion that buildings should be limited to the heights of neighboring structures.

“Let’s stop pretending ‘out of scale’ is a legitimate complaint,” Urbanroaddiet wrote under Bottcher’s tweet.

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“Let’s stop pretending ‘out of scale’ is a legitimate complaint,” Urbanroaddiet wrote under Bottcher’s tweet.

And Nat Elkins wrote, “The Empire State Building was out of scale when it was constructed as well. Should it not have been built?”

Despite the dearth of positive responses, Bottcher is not alone in opposing a 60-story tower at Gansevoort Square, a city-owned site on Little West 12th Street between Washington Street and 10th Avenue. Village Preservation, an influential advocacy group, is vociferously against it.

The well-funded nonprofit surely put Bottcher on its dartboard after he was quoted in the Adams administration’s press release announcing the project.

“I look forward to working with all stakeholders and the wider community to envision this site for cultural and park uses, along with the potential for much-needed affordable housing,” the Council member had said.
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My faith in humanity is restored.

mrnyc

Jan 30, 2025 12:33 AM

tools gonna tool.

it’ll get a little height knocked down to save face and get built, as it should be.

same is going to happen via the southbridge posse for the proposed tower next to pace.

a little give and take is all part of the process, yeah it can be ridiculous, but both of these will be built.

NYguy

Jan 30, 2025 1:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 10360972)

tools gonna tool.

it’ll get a little height knocked down to save face and get built, as it should be.

same is going to happen via the southbridge posse for the proposed tower next to pace.

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New York City Economic Development Corporation (“NYCEDC”) on behalf of the City of New York (the “City”) is pleased to release a request for proposals (“RFP”) seeking proposals from qualified parties for the construction of a mixed-income housing development with ground floor retail space pursuant to a long-term ground lease or sale of an approximately 10,000 square foot parcel of land at the corner of Little West 12th Street and 10th Avenue in Manhattan’s vibrant Meatpacking District (the “Site”).

Respondents must submit a proposal for a ground lease but, at their discretion, may submit an additional proposal for the fee simple acquisition of the Site. The Site currently covers two abutting areas described as follows: 1) a portion of Block 644, Lot 1, which is owned by the City and is under the jurisdiction of the Department of Small Business Services and 2) a portion of 10th Avenue currently under the jurisdiction of the New York State Department of Transportation and it is anticipated that it shall be deemed surplus and then transferred to the City and de-mapped.

The redevelopment of this Site aligns with Executive Order 43, a key part of Mayor Adams's “Get Stuff Built” plan, a three-pronged framework to address the housing supply crisis with a goal of building 500,000 homes over the next decade. The RFP is being released in connection with such initiative and underscores NYCEDC’s and the City’s commitment to expanding affordable housing options throughout all five boroughs.

NYCEDC plans to select a developer for the Site based on factors stated in the RFP which include, but are not limited to, financial feasibility, responsiveness to the project goals stated in the RFP, the respondent’s qualifications and experience, as applicable.

BuildThemTaller

Jan 30, 2025 2:31 PM

I love the strategy of publishing the worst, lowest-quality render to try to scare people into thinking this will be a blight on the neighborhood.

DCReid

Jan 30, 2025 4:06 PM

Although I don't really care for fat, squat buildings, I think a fat squat building fits in better with this area than some tall skinny building.

ChiND

Jan 30, 2025 4:11 PM

What's the M&O?

NYguy

Jan 30, 2025 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller (Post 10361201)

I love the strategy of publishing the worst, lowest-quality render to try to scare people into thinking this will be a blight on the neighborhood.

It’s what they do.

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Originally Posted by DCReid (Post 10361293)

Although I don't really care for fat, squat buildings, I think a fat squat building fits in better with this area than some tall skinny building.

God forbid hundreds or thousands of people have somewhere to live. It’s a residential building of 600 units on a 10,000 sf lot. It will go up, not out. And it will be on the waterfront.

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Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10361300)

What's the M&O?

Home base of the High Line.

ChiND

Jan 30, 2025 9:04 PM

Thanks. :cheers:

NYguy

Jan 31, 2025 1:35 AM

NYguy

Jan 31, 2025 1:25 PM

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-e...-are-here-stay

Battles over building heights are here to stay

EDDIE SMALL
Jan 30, 2025

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….. That brief détente appears to be over now, though, at least in the Meatpacking District. The city released its request for proposals for the Little West 12th Street site on Wednesday and would like any project to include up to 600 residential units. This would require the tower to stand more than 500 feet tall, according to the city's Economic Development Corp. Prominent local organization Village Preservation has called it "ludicrously oversized," while the normally pro-development Bottcher has called it "obviously out of scale for the Meatpacking District" and asked the city to pause the development process.

This resistance certainly does not doom the project. The city did indeed issue its RFP despite Bottcher's objections and said it hopes to have the whole project finished by the end of 2027, indicating it remains confident in its prospects. The building may ultimately end up shorter, but even if it doesn't and Bottcher remains opposed, the council could just approve it anyway, as it did with the aforementioned Blood Center project. Former local Councilman Ben Kallos insisted that building was too tall up until the final vote, but the council still voted in favor of it — the only recent notable instance of the body overriding its tradition of "member deference."

The height argument is like a villain from a slasher movie franchise: It just won't die. However, it is unlikely to kill the Meatpacking District project.

mrnyc

Feb 1, 2025 1:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10361024)

yeah i know. there is the didactic rational and then there is the irl political rationale. the mayor is running for reelection, if he can stay out of trouble that is, so the city of yes is actually the city of we will work something out so we can all ‘win’ and save face. and he can keep his votes. bet.

NYguy

Feb 1, 2025 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 10362620)

No, that's just you reading your own political nonsense into it. The City of Yes has passed, and that's thanks to actions at both the state and city level. The City will not reduce the number of units they are planning to build, and especially due to NIMBYism. There will be buildings larger than previously allowed all over the city, and that was the entire plan. No where in any of the legislation does it say "we will work something out". That was the old way of doing business.

chris08876

Nov 2, 2025 10:56 PM

NYCEDC Continues to Advance the Reimagining of Gansevoort Square, Announce Selected Developer to Build New Mixed-Income Housing Units on Residential Site

Oct 31 2025

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Gansevoort Square Partners, a Joint Venture Comprised of Douglaston Development and Kinwood Partners, Selected to Build 590 Units of New, High-Quality, Mixed-Income Housing Units, Ground Floor to Feature Local Retail, and Community Spaces Enhancing the Cultural Corridor

Up to 55 Percent of Units to be Permanently Affordable, Exceeding 50 Percent RFP Goal, Without the Use of HPD Subsidy

The Gansevoort Square Redevelopment Project—Including Residential Site and Whitney Museum Expansion—Expected to Generate 3,700 Construction Jobs, 160 Permanent Jobs, and $1.1 Billion in Economic Impact

Advances Broader Commitment of the Reimagining of Gansevoort Square and Cementing Meatpacking District as Premier Global Destination and Economic Engine, Announced in Mayor Adams’ Fourth State of the City Address

[...]

Following today’s announcement, the development team will begin site investigations and advance its designs ahead of residential construction, which is expected to begin as early as 2028. The project anticipates certifying into the Uniform Land Use Review Procedure (ULURP) by early 2027, with a goal of ULURP approval by the end of 2027.

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https://edc.nyc/press-release/nycedc...sevoort-square

NYguy

Nov 17, 2025 10:07 PM

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...l-for-kinwood/

The city chose an “emerging developer” for a major Meatpacking District project. Some call it a “mockery”
EDC’s Kinwood Partners selection raises questions about intent of designation

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By Kathryn Brenzel
November 17, 2025

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When the city began its search for developers of a site in the Meatpacking District, the request for proposals encouraged inclusion of an “emerging developer.”

Such a developer, the RFP described, had completed fewer than 10 projects in the past decade, each with fewer than 150 residential units, no more than 100,000 square feet and a cost below $30 million.

Still, the developer couldn’t be completely green; they needed some experience finishing projects in New York City or other urban areas.

An emerging developer wasn’t a requirement of the project application, but prioritizing a more diverse applicant pool was part of the city’s commitment, according to the RFP, to “reduce the barriers to entry into the real estate community.” More than 10 teams applied for the project, part of a development dubbed Gansevoort Square, according to the city’s Economic Development Corporation.

The EDC selected Kinwood Partners alongside Douglaston Development to build 590 housing units on a city-owned site. Kinwood would seem to fit the bill. The firm hasn’t developed anything, but it is led by someone who spent a decade working for a major real estate investment trust as well as on projects in the neighborhood.

David Himmel, former chief operating officer at Jamestown and son of Leslie Wohlman Himmel, co-founder of investment firm Himmel & Meringoff Properties, is Kinwood’s founder. His firm’s selection has raised questions about the intent of designations like “emerging developer” in public-private endeavors.

That’s because while Himmel fits the criteria on paper, he’s also a real estate scion who already held an executive role at a multi-billion-dollar REIT.

NYguy

Dec 23, 2025 8:56 PM

One of the losing bids, “Supertall for All”…

https://archup.net/supertall-for-all...wer-manhattan/

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/power...537632768-mx6r

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2...Oj_mvfZQXh9wMs

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2...FmAxKmkEHqAZBk

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2...B8L5clu3l8x2rE

https://www.powerhouse-company.com/5050-gansevoort

https://static.powerhouse-company.co...sevoort-01.jpg

https://static.powerhouse-company.co...sevoort-02.jpg

https://static.powerhouse-company.co...sevoort-15.jpg

https://static.powerhouse-company.co...sevoort-16.jpg

https://static.powerhouse-company.co...sevoort-27.jpg

https://static.powerhouse-company.co...evoort-281.jpg

The New York Lion

Dec 24, 2025 7:27 PM

I hope this ends up being at least 500'

From river to river, Manhattan, where possible, should be a sea of skyscrapers.

mrnyc

Dec 26, 2025 4:00 AM

i certainly hope the whitney expansion looks a hell of a lot better than a giant blank wall right up against the highline.
they could take a few notes from the stepped back existing whitney.

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