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NYguy May 1, 2024 4:14 AM

NEW YORK | 655 Madison Ave | 1,162 FT | 74 FLOORS
 
So, it seems another one will be coming down for a new tower.

This site is just west of Stern’s 520 Park Avenue.


https://commercialobserver.com/2024/...filling-space/

BY DAVID M. LEVITT
APRIL 16, 2024


Quote:

Cohen
We’ve emptied out a building in the Plaza District. SL Green (SLG) had 625 Madison, ours is a stone’s throw away at 655 Madison.

We’re going to see those buildings get torn down and replaced probably by a mixture of retail, hospitality, and residential. And I don’t have to tell you that all three of those uses are very desirable in the Plaza District.


NYguy May 1, 2024 5:24 AM

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streetscaper May 1, 2024 7:30 AM

Awesome!

Crawford May 2, 2024 4:03 AM

Wow. Madison Ave. & 60th Street is about as good as it gets. Will undoubtedly be a superluxury condo with flagship retail at the base.

Hopefully a landmark supertall.

Busy Bee May 2, 2024 4:37 PM

I hope they could also grab 33 E 60. Having the new tower bookend those three inset old walkups would look much better than leaving that one projecting forward like that with the blank wall.

ChiND May 2, 2024 5:48 PM

I’d like to see all of the junk between this site and 520 Park razed.

I had hoped that it would come down when 520 Park was built.

Busy Bee May 2, 2024 6:19 PM

I think it's likely 520 has some air rights ownership of some or all of those old walkups.

ChiND May 2, 2024 7:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 10197331)
I think it's likely 520 has some air rights ownership of some or all of those old walkups.

I thought that 520’s air rights came from The Grolier’s Club and from Christ Church.

NYguy May 3, 2024 7:10 PM

I don't mind those small buildings creating a buffer between 520, and keeping some of that New York City streetscape that everyone seems to want left untouched.



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ChiND May 3, 2024 8:01 PM

They look crappy though, even though they received a bit of lipstick when 520 Park was built.

Only one of the four has nice details.

Busy Bee May 3, 2024 8:34 PM

Best scenario is the three that are uniform and set back stay and receive full restorations. The one to the west that sits forward with the lousy blank wall gets bought and incorporated into the new tower lot.

streetscaper May 3, 2024 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10198123)
I don't mind those small buildings creating a buffer between 520, and keeping some of that New York City streetscape that everyone seems to want left untouched.

Agreed!

Xing Lin May 4, 2024 2:11 AM

If 520 Park didn't have the air rights of those buildings, wouldn't its western facade have needed to be completely windowless as it's on the lot boundary?

Busy Bee May 4, 2024 2:22 AM

^ It is windowless up to a certain height. Whether that means 520 has air rights or not I don't know.

Crawford May 5, 2024 11:51 PM

I'm wondering if there might be another major upcoming Madison Avenue tower.

635 Madison Avenue, which is underbuilt, and on a super-prime block, is about to be sold off:

Billionaire developer Ben Ashkenazy loses Madison Avenue office building to foreclosure
https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-e...ve-foreclosure

ChiND May 6, 2024 12:47 AM

That would be nice. That building is crap. It has a pretty small footprint, so I don’t think that it would be a supertall like Related’s planned building nearby.

I wonder if it has a lot of medical tenants with long leases though.

NYguy May 6, 2024 7:04 PM

Could be the makings of another billionaire’s row, though we all know Park Avenue is the true billionaire’s row.

NYguy Aug 19, 2024 9:24 PM

NEW YORK | 655 Madison Ave | FT | FLOORS
 
Was just a matter of time…..


https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-e...ted-demolition

655 Madison slated for demolition


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EDDIE SMALL
August 19, 2024


Quote:

A Manhattan developer seems to have big changes in mind for one of its office towers.

NYguy Aug 19, 2024 9:39 PM

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Hudson11 Aug 19, 2024 9:50 PM

maybe a nice wedding cake once upon a time, but now just a glassy monster like the Grand Hyatt.

The New York Lion Aug 19, 2024 10:40 PM

Amazing.

A 1,000' Stern tower here would sell like crazy.

We are getting closer and closer to 100 Manhattan supertalls.

:cheers:

NYguy Aug 20, 2024 12:11 AM

I don't think a supertall will rise on this site. If they get to 700 ft on this site alone, that would be good. It's not a very large site. Between 200-250k sf could give it a height somewhere around 520 Park Avenue. That one is about 780 ft. Though that building is built with a FAR of 8.


The numbers for total built and zoning space for 520 Park...


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ChiND Aug 20, 2024 2:08 AM

I’d be happy with 700-800’ here.

ChiND Aug 20, 2024 3:44 AM

I read that this likely will be about 500’ and might have a scale similar to 200 E 83rd. I’d be happy with that.

https://www.ramsa.com/sites/default/files/01_11.jpg

Www.ramsa.com

Crawford Aug 20, 2024 2:44 PM

I hope it's a supertall, and a traditional-style design. It would be amazing to have three residential supertalls on this short stretch of Madison.

ChiND Aug 20, 2024 4:02 PM

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...strict-office/

Plaza District office slated for demolition
Williams Equities principal hinted 655 Madison’s retail, housing potential

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NYguy Aug 22, 2024 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 10267968)
I hope it's a supertall, and a traditional-style design. It would be amazing to have three residential supertalls on this short stretch of Madison.


I'd be very surprised it a supertall got built on this site.

NYguy Aug 22, 2024 9:24 PM

https://nypost.com/2024/08/22/real-e...or-demolition/

A 1950’s tower on Madison Avenue in Manhattan is slated for demolition


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By Mary K. Jacob
Aug. 22, 2024


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Williams Equities is gearing up to demolish its 24-story office tower at 655 Madison Ave., according to a recent filing with the Department of Buildings, Crain’s reports.

The 310-foot-tall, 200,000-square-foot structure is expected to make way for something entirely new, though the exact plans remain under wraps.

Williams Equities, a near-century-old New York real-estate player, isn’t going at this alone. The firm is reportedly working with Jamestown to raze the building.
Quote:

”We’ve emptied out a building in the Plaza District,” Cohen said. “SL Green had 625 Madison; ours is a stone’s throw away at 655 Madison. We’re going to see those buildings get torn down and replaced probably by a mixture of retail, hospitality and residential.”

Neither Williams nor Jamestown is coughing up more details, leaving the city to speculate about what could rise in place of the 1950s-era office tower, which was spruced up in 2005.


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ChiND Aug 23, 2024 3:12 AM

Isn’t the new facade only about ten to twelve years old? (Not that that marginal investment would warrant saving a crappy, worthless office tower that occupies a hyper-prime spot in which an Uber-luxurious hotel/condo can rise.)

NYguy Aug 23, 2024 4:36 PM

^ Don't know.



Since they are moving forward with demo here, this will most likely be built as-of-right. And it will be competing directly with Related's 625 Madison Avenue. This area of midtown will produce ultra-luxury towers, so I do wonder if they will try to achieve a tall tower simply because of the 625 project.



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There will be a lot of ongoing demo in the immediate area...



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jackster99 Aug 23, 2024 5:57 PM

So this is going to really ruin some of the park views from the ultra high end units in 520 park. Those owners are not going to be pleased.

NYguy Aug 23, 2024 6:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackster99 (Post 10270247)
So this is going to really ruin some of the park views from the ultra high end units in 520 park. Those owners are not going to be pleased.

Tough. They should have got a unit in Central Park Tower. But it's more to it than just the views.

mrnyc Aug 24, 2024 8:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10269865)
Isn’t the new facade only about ten to twelve years old? (Not that that marginal investment would warrant saving a crappy, worthless office tower that occupies a hyper-prime spot in which an Uber-luxurious hotel/condo can rise.)


yep, it got a reno in 2008 —



Madison Avenue Building Gets New Look

Oct. 24, 2008


Interior construction has started at 655 Madison Avenue in New York City, architectural firm Montroy Andersen DeMarco announced. The 193,000-square-foot, 25-story office building at East 60th Street is undergoing a significant modernization program that will reposition it in the Plaza District marketplace.

The renovation of the building includes a new high-efficiency glass-and-granite exterior, a new lobby, new glass-walled elevator cabs, and new ceiling-mounted air-conditioning units, which yield more useable floor area for tenants. The building's life-safety systems have been upgraded to make the floors fully sprinklered. In addition, there will be new sidewalks on both Madison Avenue and 60th Street and improved prebuilt office space. A total of 75,000 square feet will be renovated.


more:
https://www.iands.design/industry-ne...-gets-new-look

SkyHigher Aug 24, 2024 1:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10267774)
I’d be happy with 700-800’ here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10267806)
I read that this likely will be about 500’ and might have a scale similar to 200 E 83rd. I’d be happy with that.


What happened in the space of nearly two hours between those posts. :haha:

ChiND Aug 24, 2024 1:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 10270551)
yep, it got a reno in 2008 —



Madison Avenue Building Gets New Look

Oct. 24, 2008


Interior construction has started at 655 Madison Avenue in New York City, architectural firm Montroy Andersen DeMarco announced. The 193,000-square-foot, 25-story office building at East 60th Street is undergoing a significant modernization program that will reposition it in the Plaza District marketplace.

The renovation of the building includes a new high-efficiency glass-and-granite exterior, a new lobby, new glass-walled elevator cabs, and new ceiling-mounted air-conditioning units, which yield more useable floor area for tenants. The building's life-safety systems have been upgraded to make the floors fully sprinklered. In addition, there will be new sidewalks on both Madison Avenue and 60th Street and improved prebuilt office space. A total of 75,000 square feet will be renovated.


more:
https://www.iands.design/industry-ne...-gets-new-look

Thanks! That’s what I thought.

NYguy Aug 26, 2024 3:37 AM

https://nypost.com/2024/08/25/busine...tery-makeover/

NYC’s most fashionable shopping corridor is getting a mystery makeover


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By Steve Cuozzo
Published Aug. 25, 2024


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Uptown Madison Avenue, the city’s premier luxury shopping corridor, faces momentous change on the gilded blocks where East Midtown meets the Upper East Side.

Two large office retail buildings are being demolished for new, mixed-use projects about which little is known. Meanwhile, wealthy fashionistas and even wealthier real estate investors wonder what’s to become of the former Barneys building, which has been vacant for four years.

We first reported in July that Related Cos. will take down 625 Madison between East 58th and 59th streets for a mixed-use supertall tower that may rise to more than 1,200 feet. Related’s Jeff Blau told us it will take nine months to demolish the structure and an adjoining one for a skyscraper with luxury condos, stores and perhaps a hotel. Scaffolding now covers the entire property.
Quote:

Now comes word via Crains that demo plans were also filed at 24-story 655 Madison between East 60th and 61st streets. The owners, a joint venture that includes Jamestown and Williams Equity, plan “a mixture of retail, hospitality and residential,” Williams co-principal Michael T. Cohen told the Commercial Observer earlier.

As at 625 Madison, retail tenants have moved out — most notably Marc Jacobs, which had the large south corner. Although a sign promises the designer is moving to a new Fifth Avenue location, no lease on Fifth has been announced. (As we reported, negotiations at 645 Fifth went nowhere.)

Adding to uncertainty about the future, the elegant but empty 10-story former Barneys at 660 Madison — across the avenue from 655 Madison — continues to baffle real estate insiders and, according to the Real Deal, to frustrate main owner Ben Ashkenazy’s investors.
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Madison Avenue Business Improvement District president Matthew Bauer took an optimistic long view.

“What makes Madison Avenue distinct from other luxury retail destinations around the world is that the majority of the customer base is very local,” Bauer said.

“These new buildings will not only bring new shopping and hospitality venues to the district, they will bring residents who shall be clients for our stores, restaurants, spas, salons and galleries.”

He noted that since both the new 625 and 655 Madison “will likely now have a major residential component,” they will “follow the recent precedents of new construction on Madison with high-end retail on the lower floors, and luxury residential above.”


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Demo plans have been filed to knock down 24-story building at 655 Madison Ave.

Mulan Sep 9, 2024 11:45 PM

According to the latest information in the DOB, the demolition has been authorised.

Hopefully there will be another supertall here, two supertalls could be created at the same time.

NYguy Oct 5, 2024 1:49 AM

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ChiND Oct 5, 2024 1:52 AM

I can’t wait to see this come down!

NYguy Oct 16, 2024 8:58 PM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...wer-for-condos

Billionaires’ Row Developer Buys NYC Office Tower for Condos
-Extell’s price for 655 Madison Ave. is more than $200 million
-Elliott-backed Tyko Capital provides financing for the deal



By Natalie Wong
October 16, 2024


Quote:

Extell Development, the company behind some of Manhattan’s most expensive condo skyscrapers, bought a Madison Avenue office property with plans to build luxury housing and retail at the site.

The developer purchased 655 Madison Ave. — between 60th and 61st streets — from Williams Equities for more than $200 million, according to people familiar with the deal. Tyko Capital, which is backed by Elliott Investment Management, is financing the acquisition, one of the people said, asking not to be named discussing a private matter.

Hudson11 Oct 17, 2024 12:00 AM

hmmm not sure I trust Extell to put up anything iconic. They're self competing pretty hard at the moment with One 57, Central Park Tower, One manhattan square and 138 Willoughby in Brooklyn.

NYguy Oct 17, 2024 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hudson11 (Post 10302535)
hmmm not sure I trust Extell to put up anything iconic. They're self competing pretty hard at the moment with One 57, Central Park Tower, One manhattan square and 138 Willoughby in Brooklyn.

Extell is the one developer you can count on putting up something as tall as possible, or as what makes sense for the site. Of any of the developers, if anyone is going to stretch it, its Extell. Of course, that doesn't mean it will be a supertall tower. The site is what it is.

NYguy Oct 22, 2024 12:43 AM

https://commercialobserver.com/2024/...ooked-so-good/

By The Editors
October 20, 2024


Quote:

All this activity might explain why developers such as the legendary Gary Barnett are starting to roll up their sleeves and build in Manhattan again.

Barnett’s Extell Development just purchased the 24-story office tower at 655 Madison Avenue (which was ready to tear down) from Williams Equities for $160 million, with plans to “build something spectacular” on the site — which is a vague enough promise to pique our interest.



From the earlier article...


https://commercialobserver.com/2024/...adison-avenue/

Quote:

The sale comes after Williams Equities filed plans in August to tear down the property.

While Extell’s plans for the property aren’t clear, the source said the developer plans to continue with the demolition and “build something spectacular” in its place.


NYguy Nov 20, 2024 7:30 PM

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...-avenue-tower/

Extell plans 37-story Madison Avenue tower
Gary Barnett will demolish office building to erect 193K sf of residential



NOV 20, 2024


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The firm is proposing a 193,000-square-foot building at 655 Madison Avenue that will include 62 residential units and commercial space, according to property filings. Maxwell Pau of Beyer Blinder Belle is the architect. The existing 200,000-square-foot office building would be demolished.

Barnett, in a brief phone call, declined to comment except to say he plans to build “the usual stuff.” Barnett is known for developing luxury condominiums, such as Central Park Tower.

….. It is a block from the southeast corner of Central Park, offering Barnett a chance to build apartments with commanding views of the park. It’s a formula that Extell and others have employed to sell units for tens of millions of dollars.

ChiND Nov 20, 2024 8:11 PM

I’d like to see a classic stone tower. BBB designed the Kent for Extell.

https://www.beyerblinderbelle.com/pr...=residential-1

NYguy Nov 21, 2024 6:43 PM

Gary must be excited.


https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...sells-for-79m/

Zeckendorfs’ final penthouse at 520 Park Avenue sells for $79M
Duplex traded in all-cash deal, marking NYC’s fourth-priciest deal in 2024

ChiND Nov 21, 2024 7:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10322707)
Gary must be excited.


https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...sells-for-79m/

Zeckendorfs’ final penthouse at 520 Park Avenue sells for $79M
Duplex traded in all-cash deal, marking NYC’s fourth-priciest deal in 2024

I agree, I’m really curious about Soloviev. I really hope that he does not squander what’s presently the most magnificent residential site under development in NY.

NYguy Nov 23, 2024 5:41 AM

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https://www.pincusco.com/extell-file...ught-for-159m/

ChiND Nov 23, 2024 12:33 PM

The shape is utterly lame. Hopefully, it’s not a glass box. Extell lately doesn’t aim high.

Crawford Nov 26, 2024 12:53 AM

Another article on the development, but paywalled:

https://www.uppereastsite.com/mega-d...-retail-space/

Mega-Developer Plans 55-Story-Tall UES Luxury Tower with Hotel & Retail Space
by Upper East Site Staff

The mega-developer behind some of Manhattan's priciest projects plans to construct a massive 55-story-tall tower featuring a mix of luxury apartments, hotel rooms and retail space on an Upper East Side lot already hosting a high-rise building.


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