1209 St. Laurent Blvd | 95m | 30f x2 | Proposed
 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCtojnUX...jpg&name=large
https://twitter.com/KatePorterCBC/st...70642594770947

Beautiful looking Tower but boy is this a bad location for pedestrian or even for a car trying to get into the garage IMO

Those two guys standing in the middle of the street staring into traffic would seem to disagree.

1209 St. Laurent Blvd.
https://i.imgur.com/YtB4GEL.jpg

The parcel in question:

https://i.imgur.com/2Qjcoc5.png

http://ottwatch.ca/meetings/file/478818

Its being sold has a TOD but IMO being close to transit shouldn't be the only criteria. A pedestrian friendly surrounding is just as important for TOD and this project just isnt it. For 1 you always have to walk to the nearest station, but also having to cross a transitway ramp and a HWY exit ramp then cross the horrible ogilvie/st.laurent intersection and then cyrville road just to get to the closest grocery store. all that for a distance of only 700m.

This is just a horrible location from start to finish. I dont care if its 50m away from the LRT station

There is a crosswalk directly in front of building so no need to use the transitway ramp. The walk to LRT station is minutes away and it replaces a lot thats sat unused for anything other than makeshift parking for decades. The walk to the grocery store isn't so bad just because you will be crossing a couple of perfectly normal intersections. I see many people using these crosswalks, myself included, so to each their own I guess.

IMO I hope they push for 30 stories here and in surrounding areas like old Chimo hotel in the future.

Yes, but then you still have to walk through the St. Laurent parking garage. Unless I am mistaken there is not much in the way of a pedestrian connection through the lower level of that parking garage from the sidewalk.

Walking on the south side exterior of the mall from there is a cold and harsh sidewalk next to a blank wall that also crosses a large loading bay.

Essentially it falls victim to TOD... but hardly pedestrian oriented development.

You may actually be better off walking around and over the mall inlet overpass in actuality.

Not sure what to think of this one. The rendering seems pretty peachy but it is definitely in a weird spot.

That being said.. walking across St. Laurent and through the parking garage or around the overpass wouldn't be a massive deterrent for myself.

Chenier Group have also purchased the joining lot next to this one. This concept plan is not what they will be proposing. They will be maximizing the building(s) height to the current zoning and it will be two towers in the proposal that will eventually be put together since they now own both lots. Still a few years away from seeing any activity on this one.

Interesting design. Let's hope they don't dumb it down when they add height and pair up with the neighbouring lot.

If they make an entrance on the Labelle Street viaduct and improve the pedestrian environment to the transit station and door to the mall, it wouldn't be so bad. Alternatively build a skywalk to the mall.

I do hope the St. Laurent Shopping Centre welcomes a grocery store again at some point. It had one for decades (Dominion and then Market Fresh, between Sears and Toys R' Us).

1200 Lemieux Street was purchased by 12401304 Canada Inc. (Chenier Group) from 10006882 Canada Inc. (Crown Group Hotels) for $3,550,000 or $242 per square foot. It is zoned Transit Oriented Development.

http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ne...July-Sales.pdf

(This is the eastern portion of this odd site)

Chenier Group is offloading these two parcels of land to another developer. It appears that Canderel seems to be the purchaser.

^Oh shoot!

Looks awkward next to the ramp feeding into the mall parking lot, doesn't it?

But the suggestions of connections to the mall complex and the Transitway/O-Train station do make sense.

Fengate to build 1,900 rental units at pair of prime Ottawa development sites

Fengate Asset Management says it plans to build more than 1,900 rental housing units at two coveted development sites in Ottawa as the Toronto-based company ramps up its investment in the National Capital Region.

Fengate said earlier this week it has purchased a one-acre site at 1209 St. Laurent Blvd., across from the St. Laurent Shopping Centre, as well as property at 1047 Richmond Rd., a few blocks northwest of the Carlingwood Shopping Centre near an LRT station that’s now under construction.

Fengate says it purchased both parcels of land on behalf of investors that include the LiUNA Pension Fund of Central and Eastern Canada. Terms of the transactions were not disclosed.

Fengate partnered with Montreal-based Canderel Management to buy the St. Laurent Boulevard property from a private vendor in an off-market deal. The firms plan to build a pair of 30-storey apartment towers containing a total of more than 600 rental units in a variety of suite types and sizes.

The site is already zoned for residential construction. Fengate said the companies hope to break ground on the project within the next 12 months.

Growing office sector

“With its proximity to the new (St. Laurent) transit station and retail amenities, along with the growing office sector in Ottawa’s east end, the site presents a great opportunity to introduce new and much-needed rental options in the area,” Jaime McKenna, Fengate’s managing director and group head of real estate, said in an email to OBJ.

It’s the first joint project for Fengate and Canderel. McKenna said the two firms have “aligned interests” to develop highrise residential buildings and were looking for an opportunity to work together.

“After considering different projects to co-develop with Canderel, we finally found the right fit in this transit-oriented site,” she said in an email to OBJ.

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https://obj.ca/article/real-estate/r...elopment-sites

Yup, this is a strange one. Absolute garbage of a site. Worst possible place to live. An island surrounded by highways and ramps. Even if the built a pedestrian bridge to St-Laurent station somehow, it wouldn't be much of an improvement.

Wait, what? They want to build twin 30 story towers on that little traffic island now?!? Am I reading this right?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...660de8b2_h.jpg1209 St. Laurent by harley613, on Flickr

What a desolate place to live. It would be like living in the middle of a roundabout.

It may be handy if you are into meeting some of the regulars from Lone Star :cheers::cheers::cheers:

I just spent a little bit of time on Google Maps looking for an analog for this in other Canadian cities. I thought I might find something in Mississauga or Burnaby for example, but as of yet I can not find a more horrible site with a highrise development in this country.

I used to park here and take the transitway downtown every day for summer jobs. There is a sidewalk on the overpass (protected with concrete barriers) west as the extension of Labele towards St. Laurent. It's not that bad of a walk, I found it pretty convenient until they closed the offramp from the 417 Westbound.

'Come experience luxury living in the heart of a freeway interchange, featuring a sidewalk (with a concrete barrier) on an overpass to a dying regional mall! It's not that bad of a walk! Live your best life amongst budget motels, strip malls and car dealerships. The worst Tex-mex in Canada is only steps away!'

:haha:

If they share one podium it's certainly enough space - but an odd choice none the less. Maybe they know something about St Laurent and the interchange that we don't?

Perhaps there's some kind of rebuild on the horizon that will make that spot more desirable? Or they just got the land really cheap and want to cash in on the cities tight rental market at any cost.

Tell us how you really feel about this location. Stop mincing your words:P:shrug::cheers::D

All kidding aside, a good description. It is a real focus of suburban crapitude.

just ... wow. This is bad. I've always thought the area between St Laurent and Cyrville station needs major reinvestment, TOD, pedestrianization and all that. And you have to start somewhere ... but this is the very last parcel I would think to build on in that area. Honestly. The only way this could work is if the surrounding streets and intersections were narrowed and pedestrianized.

This takes the worst of town and suburb, its fascinating.

I was digging a little and came across some imagery.. still looking for better quality ones.
pp. 22-23

https://issuu.com/fengatemktg/docs/f...DhhNTQyNDA4MjY


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...696de13f_b.jpg

Surprisingly accurate... Usually the artists put the towers in the middle of a forest or meadow.

The area is undergoing a major development push. City Park has seen 2 of 5 towers built. There are talks that the movie theatre may be replaced by more condos. Then you have the 4 towers going up at the corner of Ogilvie and Cummings and a couple of other developments next to it on Cyrville. If that wasn't enough, construction is about to start on Tremblay, next to the VIA station. Finally, we also have a proposal for the huge lot bordering St. Laurent and Tremblay. The area will look nothing like it does now in 10 years from now.

+ big developments at the Trainyards

I'm not aware of that one if it's different than the Tremblay/Belfast development next to the VIA station, which is basically across from Trainyards.

Harley is probably referring to this one:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=227196

Add the Dustbane site as well to eventual development.

I wasn't aware of that project. That's a massive development as well.

Here is everything new and notable in the pipeline by floor count for the Queensway corridor in East-Central Ottawa, to the best of my knowledge. The Canlands at Tremblay and St. Laurent are highlighted in red because they are slated for a huge development but not application or proposal yet.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...172ea33d_k.jpgEast Central by harley613, on Flickr

Mods, can we please change the title to 2x30f?

It's interesting that the site is fenced off already and this is still just a proposal.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...69fdaa52_h.jpg

The site as it is today:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a9060c55_h.jpg

The renderings look nice for what it is - these aren't perfect but they add much needed density that is needed near our malls. Let's hope they add more towers in addition to this development at St Laurent.

https://v2.ottwatch.ca/devapp/D07-12-22-0089

Docs not up yet

I honestly hope so. I'd obliterate the sea of the mostly empty parking lot that surrounds st-Laurent. maybe even take the Blair approach and integrate towers into the mall.

Such a horrible site. Unless the proposal includes a complete rebuild of the road network, I don't see how this will work.

Would be cool if they could incorporate a sky bridge to the mall over St. Laurent Blvd.

Who's ready for two 30 storey RLA designed towers surrounded stroads and highway off-ramps? Doesn't get much better than this /s

The site plan in the link above appears to show an entrance on Labrie from the sidewalk on the bridge of the overpass.

The problem is that the sidewalk between the other end of the overpass and the transit station is very poor- narrow, disconnected, no accessibility ramps. Hopefully something can be done with the mall owners to improve this.

This looks like one of those Cities:Skylines youtube videos where the person straightens out the traffic jams.

low qual imagery. meh at least it's not 28 stories
https://i.imgur.com/HyBxf7K.png

This was way more interesting.
Why does every tower needs to have the same exact RLA style?

Devapps released the files

http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...12-22-0089.PDF

Proposed at 95 meters each, for the thread title.

We can call it Frontier Trois. The original Frontier at Blair, the revised and rotated Frontier at Montreal/Blair, and then this revised and rotated Frontier at St. Laurent.

ReFrontier, stylized as Re:Fr, or Reefer for short.

Would not want to live in that 367 sq ft ground floor studio facing the offramp, with the garbage room down the hall