2026 Scott St [Granite Curling Club] | ?/88/?m | 18/26/36f | Proposed
 

http://kitchissippiward.ca/content/g...r-30-700-900pm

From Morley Hoppner & Colonade Bridgeport:

"The Granite Curling Club is looking to secure their long-term future with the building of their new curling rink. In doing so, a new vision for a healthier, more connected and better programmed Lion's Park is being proposed along with the new facility. Morley Hoppner and Bridgeport Colonnade have developed a master plan concept that provides three supportive and interconnected objectives; repositioning of the new Curling Club, the proposed realignment of Lion's Park along with new community features, and a new transit oriented residential development.

While envisioning the Granite Curling Club redevelopment, key elements and variables were carefully considered in developing this exciting proposal. Attention to urban context, built form, pedestrian connectivity and the retention of the Curling Club have been the foundational elements in transforming this site into a unique community asset. The end result depicted in their proposal will show a vision that considers the evolution of the Granite Curling Club in its larger urban context and speaks to collaboration, connectivity and growth within the community."

Our office, alongside the Granite Curling Club and Morley Hoppner and Bridgeport, will be hosting a public meeting on Wednesday, October 30, 2019 from 7:00-9:00pm at the Granite Curling Club (2020 Scott St) to the details of the club's redevelopment plans with the community. City staff in Planning and Parks and Recreation will also be available to field questions during the meeting.

Please note that at this time no formal development applications have been filed. This public meeting will be the first opportunity for the community to review details of the proposal and provide initial feedback. When a formal application is filed, a sign will go on the property and a lead planner at the City of Ottawa will be assigned. At this time, formal feedback will be further solicited to be evaluated by the lead planner. Since no formal application has been filed yet, please consider submitting feedback to our office via [email protected] and / or [email protected].

http://kitchissippiward.ca/sites/def...MasterPlan.JPG

Wow. Westboro station is hot stuff. So many proposals...

Makes me wonder when Adam's Moving will sell. That's the only lot on the south side of Scott between Clifton and Athlone that isn't either being redeveloped or a proposal for one.

Seriously. It's so dismal. Get out of the core and go to Hunt Club & Merivale or something.

As a curling enthusiast, a Westboro enthusiast, a densification enthusiast, and outdoor amenity enthusiast, this concept is overwhelmingly positive. :tup:

Love the site plan, but chances are Lahey will be hired to design yet another uninspired condo tower.

So I guess they are going to be proposing a land-swap with the City to facilitate this plan?

Given that Hobin produced the master plan, and already designed Morley Hoppner's Westboro Station and Odawa projects, I'd put my money on his firm designing this one, too.

Good. Hobin has a better track record.

Westboro curling club taking its rock to a new place
Granite Curling Club of West Ottawa members voted 92% in favour of moving

CBC News
Posted: Mar 31, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago

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The Granite Curling Club of West Ottawa says its aging building, rising property taxes and failed redevelopment attempts means it's the right time to move the club.

About 92 per cent of members participating in a special meeting Sunday OK'ed the plan to buy a new property on Queensview Drive east of Pinecrest Avenue.

Greg Mathieu, chair of the club's redevelopment committee, said the decision comes after making efforts to keep the club in Westboro, but having no viable option.

"This is us saying that in order for this club to have a long-term future, it obviously can't be in Westboro because of the age of our building, because of the tax situation ... and because we want to have a choice of the property that we move to," Mathieu said.

"We had to move farther afield."

The move may take until 2023 to complete, since it also requires building a new curling facility.

The current Granite Curling Club building is 68 years old, but it sits on a valuable parcel of land on Scott Street, steps away from the Westboro Station — a future LRT station.

City taxes on the property have already gone up considerably in recent years. In October 2019, the club proposed to swap for some land for a portion of Lion's Park as part of a redevelopment proposal.

Mathieu said there was some "shortsightedness" on the part of the city that means the private, non-profit which hosts about 600 players in a regular year will be leaving the area.

Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper said if there had been more flexibility about the club giving up a season or giving up some of the parking space it was trying to maintain in its proposal, there may have been a different outcome.

"It's a shame. I don't begrudge the decision by the club to leave," Leiper said.

Other private clubs that require specialized facilities may be confronted with a similar dilemma unless the city subsidizes them directly, according to the councillor.

"Neighbourhoods like Westboro, where the land values are going up so quickly, are going to see the loss of some of these sorts of institutions. It's not just going to be our ward," Leiper said.

"This is probably just the first of many such moves that we're going to see."

Leiper said he expects there will be a proposal for two 25-storey towers on the large property on Scott Street, once the curling club is on the move, given the zoning for the area and its proximity to LRT.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...vote-1.5969946

Sounds like the city wouldn't go for the land swap back in 2019... unfortunate. Seems like a missed opportunity.

I went to the community consultation on this in 2019 and the curling club didn't make a very convincing case on the land swap. They highlighted that in square footage the park would technically be larger than it is currently, but it also would've been a lot less usable. It turned it into a more narrow, linear-type park (not as narrow as the green space on Byron, but definitely less usable than the open space there is now). Their response to those concerns was that the new narrower park would also be more visible from Scott street (OK?). The city reps at the meeting were pretty clear that the land swap wouldn't be approved.

They had four proposals. One was the land swap, one was a complete removal of the club and putting up two towers, and two that were kind of a hybrid where the curling club would be rebuilt with an accompanying tower, all while using the existing space. The issue was that these last two would involve a phased build, where the club would need to close for a season to make it work and that there would be more limited parking, especially during the construction phase. They were really concerned about the parking.

The curling club rep at one point basically said that these two hybrid proposals weren't palatable at all for the club because of the lost season and parking, which called into question why they were being presented at all. They said if the community didn't go for the land swap it was going to be the two towers.

Leipier makes reference to this stubbornness in the article above and based on my attendance at the consultation I am sympathetic to that view. It seems like the land owners were banking on the city/community being swayed by keeping the curling club over losing the useable green space and the precedent of the land swap more broadly, and they weren't the best spokespeople for that proposal.

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It would appear that this proposal now has a 40 storey third tower.

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...2-0037/details

Nice! Scott is a great place for density and height. Great potential to one day become a secondary main street.

I'd love for this to get approved as is, and see some height in this part of town, but I'd be floored if 40 storeys was approved... this is Ottawa, after all, where residents are allergic to tall things and shadows kill people.

Luckily we are close to the tipping point along Scott St. where the NIMBY's can no longer claim buildings over 7 stories tall DoN't FiT tHe NeIgHbOurHooD.

Assuming this is RLA, based on the SoHo Italia-esque podiums.

The proposed redevelopment, consisting of three residential high-rise buildings and a pedestrian plaza and thoroughfare. The redevelopment of this site will require the demolition of the existing Granite Curling Club, commercial units, and their adjacent surface parking lots.

The property is currently divided into five parcels, occupied by the Granite Curling Club, a few commercial businesses, and surface parking. The North edge of the site meets the public along one of Ottawa’s busiest thoroughfares. Towards the West, the site is met by Athlone Avenue, a residential street. Along the South edge, a large park services the community. This park, historically and currently, acts as bridge between community oriented infrastructures such as a Gymnastic Club, and Curling Club, flanking its South and North edges.

The proposed towers, one comprised of 40 storeys, one of 36 storeys, and the third of 20 storeys, all encompass five story podiums. The towers, provide density to the neighbourhood, as they contain a total of 868 units. The ground levels of the building’s podiums will house commercial spaces, amenity spaces, a gym, and bicycle storage. The phased development will be completed with four to six levels of underground parking, containing +/- 567 parking spaces, resulting in a minimum ratio of 0.5 parking spaces for residences and 0.1 for visitors. Additionally, +/- 643 bicycle stalls are included, along with additional bicycle storage at grade.

Architect: Hobin Architecture


Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...2-0037/details

Location:

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Site:

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Additional renderings:

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This is going to.. how to put this.. ruffle some feathers.

How so?

My kids grew up on Athlone Ave, about 300m south of here.

I know a lady that lives less than a block from Superstore, however to this day she refuses to shop there as it "ruined the neighbourhood"

Several of my modern, hipster neighbours thought the Metropole was completely out of character for the area.

And this isn't really getting started on the NIMBYs...

break out the popcorn... unfortunately :(

No, it's Hobin doing his occasional charcoal & white/beige RLA/Neuf thing unfortunately. At least this one uses the dreaded materials in a better way in my opinion.

Nice height! Looks fine for what it is, Ottawa's west side is going to be TALL. Much taller than even our downtown lol.

From Bayshore all the way to Lebreton, there's some really nice height. I'm excited to see them all go up - especially these 40 storey 110m+ bad boys!

Ottawa is forming an inverted skyline. The Great Clump will soon be surrounded by much taller buildings on all sides, so ironically the best views of the skyline will actually be from the core of the city :haha:

Granite Curling Club could be replaced by highrises, commercial space on prime Westboro site

By: David Sali, OBJ
Published: Jun 17, 2022 10:42am EDT

A venerable Ottawa curling club could be replaced by a trio of highrises featuring more than 850 rental apartment units if the city approves a recently filed application from a local developer.

Morley Hoppner says it wants to build three towers of 20, 36 and 40 storeys on a property at the corner of Scott Street and Athlone Avenue in Westboro that’s now home to several buildings – most notably the Granite Curling Club, which has occupied the site since 1953.

The property is just steps away from the future Westboro LRT station, almost directly across Scott Street.

The real estate firm is proposing to demolish the club, as well as two single-storey commercial buildings on Scott Street and a single-detached home at 314 Athlone Ave. to make way for the development, which would be managed by Colonnade BridgePort.

The plan calls for a total of 868 units in a mix of 83 studio, 544 one-bedroom and 241 two-bedroom suites. The development would also include six levels of underground parking with a total of 575 spaces, 487 of which would be reserved for residents. In addition, the garage would accommodate 643 bicycle parking stalls and 564 storage lockers.

The proposal includes commercial spaces, a gym and terraces at ground level, as well as about 40,000 square feet of private amenity space.

Zoning amendments are required since the proposed buildings exceed the property’s current 20-metre height limit. The developer is also seeking reduced setbacks.

The Granite Curling Club’s members voted in March 2021 to vacate the aging facility and relocate the club in the face of mounting property taxes and failed redevelopment attempts. The club approved a plan to buy a new property on Queensview Drive east of Pinecrest Avenue.

https://www.obj.ca/article/real-esta...al-space-prime

man... here's hoping this gets approved. if this one and those richmond+bayshore towers all get built... that'll be very good for our western portion of the city.

When I saw the video, I thought it was the evolution of Scott between the years 2006 and 2026. Took me a while to realize that was the address. :haha:

• Video Link

Updated proposal (August 2022)

The proposed redevelopment, consisting of two residential high-rise buildings and a pedestrian plaza and thoroughfare, intends to activate the encompassing streetscapes surrounding the site. The redevelopment of this site will require the demolition of the existing Granite Curling Club, commercial units, and their adjacent surface parking lots.

The proposed towers, each comprised of 40 storeys, encompass six storey podiums. The podium’s consistent datum lines along Scott Street varies as the podium steps down towards the south to maintain a sense of scale and materiality with the surrounding architecture.

The ground levels of the building’s podiums will house commercial spaces, amenity spaces, a gym, and bicycle storage.

The towers provide density to the neighbourhood, as they contain a total of 850 units, with 470 units in building 1 and 380 units in building 2.

Unit mix breakdown:

Building 1:

• studio 47 10%
• 1 bedroom 235 50%
• 1 bedroom + den 47 10%
• 2 bedroom 94 20%
• 2 bedroom + den 47 10%

Building 2:

• studio 38 10%
• 1 bedroom 190 50%
• 1 bedroom + den 38 10%
• 2 bedroom 76 20%
• 2 bedroom + den 38 10%

The project will provide a minimum of 0.6 residential parking spaces (+/- 510), as well as 0.1 visitor parking spaces (+/- 85), for a total of +/- 595 parking spaces. The parking garage will be access via two entrances, one located along Scott Street, and the other along Athlone Avenue.

Architect: Hobin Architecture


Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...2-0037/details

Site:

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Proposed Massing:

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Wait, they are going from giant CharcWhites to what could ACTUALLY be considered a landmark in Ottawa?!? Unacceptable! Unfathomable! Inconceivable!
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Wow would love to see it! however i would prefer a 40-35 over two 40 story tower! I just prefer height variation

I'm not clear on the placeholder tower next door. Is that a future stage of this project, or another proposal? Too tired to research it, but that could be just the height variation we are looking for.

its another proposal
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=242785

Ahhh right, I had completely forgotten about that steaming hot pile of RLArbage.

Seriously? This is one of RLA's good projects.

You may have been looking at the original proposal, which was under Surface and not Lofty.

That said, this new proposal at 2026 looks promising. I'm even on board with the twin towers since it would be the only set on Scott and the tallest towers by far however, Hobin is know for recycling the same (admittedly decent looking) design over and over. He's even worse than RLA, who surprises us once in a while with projects such as the SoHos and 2050 Scott (the Lofty proposal, not the Surface one).

These could end up as twins, or should I say nonuplets, of 951 Gladstone, 1330 Bank and 267 O'Connor.

The massing seems pretty nice and I'm all for more density, especially around arterials & LRT stations, although I'm hoping the design will be nice (and not grey/charcoal bricks with tiny windows. Nice to see Ottawa quietly breaking into the 40+ floor towers recently (Something that is not uncommon in places like Calgary or even Hamilton these days).

It's a shame Scott will have all this density but the street itself is pretty beurk :yuck: Maybe these developments (and street-level retail spots will help improve), or else everyone will be expected to walk down to Richmond for actual amenities or services.

Scott should become a high-rise main street, secondary to Richmond a few blocks south. Between the Scott rebuild and these new developments, the street should look much better in 5 years.

From the 2050 devapp, posted by rocketphish. It's from 2020, so a bit outdated, but we see that nearly every block up to the little forset etween Lanark and Island Park should be at least partially redeveloped.

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I know I'd a bit of a broken record, but really hoping to see a new park built over the Scott Street transit trench. We keep hearing how Kitchissippi Ward lacks park space, and that's pretty much the only spot where we can expand outdoor amenities. And the City already owns the land, so it would probably be cheaper than expropriating. And with thousands of new units across the street, and a new found status as a "main street" seems like a logical spot from an urban design perspective as well.

I mean two 40 floor towers that close to the station with that proposed design is good. I like it, it's ambitious and I'm really hoping these do get approved and go up. This one and the 3 tower 1047 Richmond Road development are really what I am amped for recently.

Yes I was looking at the old RLA design. The design for Lofty is much better. Phew.

What's that huge lot with the "Graham Spry" building across the street? Looks like a big wide open space and a very old office building. Who owns it? Still in use?

Could be a perfect space to add a few high/medium and a park/community amenities.

Feds own it. Occupied by Health Canada. Seems like a good candidate to cash-in as the Feds look to shed space, particularly Class C (which I assume this is).

Aweful lot of blue in that proposal.

A linear park over the transit trench would be beneficial in more than one way. Firstly, would provide a large park space for residents. Secondly, would take the noise (if there ever really was any) to zero. Finally, it would keep snow off the tracks meaning one less point of failure in the winter.

It's just the proposed massing. Fingers crossed the renders look similar to the original proposal as I quite liked it.

Covering the trench would be great. I'd even settle for dressing up the linear greenspace they already have. Looking forward to seeing the bike lanes on Scott completed. The north side of the road could use some attention as there aren't any curbs or significant trees.

This project is at the UDRP this morning at 10:50am. Link to watch here - https://ottawa-ca.zoom.us/j/83956750746

Passcode is 626578

I attended this one, seemed positive. This may have a good chance of going through so here's hoping this and the 1047 Richmond Road one go through. They're at very good heights!

I wish these would be posted on the City's YouTube.

I missed this one. Did they have actual renders?

UDRP package (massing concepts)
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...02-22-0037.PDF

Are the UDRP sessions available to watch later?

Not that I know of, but as you probably know detailed minutes get posted later on the City's website
https://ottawa.ca/en/planning-develo...ecommendations

To be presented at October 27th planning committee.

https://pub-ottawa.escribemeetings.c...a&lang=English

From Leiper's Newsletter: