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Club for Clinical Clollaboration

Title: Hub for Clinical Collaboration
Project: Office/Hospital
Architect: Perkins + Will
Developer: Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
Location: 3501 Civic Center Boulevard
District: West Philadelphia
Neighborhood: University City
Floors: 20
Height: 377 FT
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https://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/p...AL_Reduced.pdf

Looks great! UCity is still booming!

CHOP plans new medical office tower within its dense University City health campus

Read more here:
https://www.philly.com/real-estate/c...-20190425.html

-snip- I'm dumb and didn't realize this had been tagged

Nah. Too easy.

Some prep work for this has already begun-- the hardscaping surrounding the area of the plaza being filled in by this building is starting to be removed.

They're about to get started on this one. Sidewalk closures on East Service/Health Science drive start August 22.

:cheers:

Lots of activity all this week (as mentioned above)--this thing is going to sprout above ground level before we know it, and at 377 ft tall is pretty impressive, taller than it's adjacent neighbors.

Just saw a caisson drill from a passing train.

Quick photo I grabbed at work last Wednesday. Only captures about half of the site, maybe less. This project has also been renamed the Hub for Clinical Collaboration, but I haven't seen the name used in any public releases.

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Nice! Any caisson installation yet?

Took a photo of the other half of the site on 10/22. Due to Buerger's design I can only get half of it one shot. Maybe when its climbing I can head to the upper floors of Colket to take a pic.

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Looks to me like this one is under construction! That's caisson installation that is :cheers::notacrook:

Rolled by on the train, drilling, lots of drilling.

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They're really wedging this building in here. Pics taken yesterday Feb 15.

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Crane!

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Captured the crane all the way from the Commodore Barry Bridge
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...280eefc5_b.jpg2020-04-14_08-10-12 by Thomas Koloski, on Flickr
In front of the Research Center

It seems this one might be continuing with the same kind of medical building exemption as the HUP hospital. I just got a notice of a construction-related road closure

Scratch that, just got a follow up email that the road closure and construction is cancelled. Maybe they were waiting to hear back.

I can see arguments for both sides on this one-----for, it is part of a hospital complex, against, it's not intended for direct patient care.
I'd be interested in what others think.

my 2 cents, they should continue with construction. as should most sites.
let's not feed into the panic and hysteria. Take the threat seriously, test workers on site, shut sites down until they can be cleaned if someone does test positive. but beyond that, build build build!

I think they would go through with this since it would help with development for treatment or a possible cure/vaccine. (this is a research building right?) It would only make sense and im sure if we got to a point they could put beds in that building (maybe)

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Right, and this isn't just looking at the situation now, but into the future. The current situation will change how we look at our healthcare system and research/development/deployment well into the future.

If CHOP was fighting for an exception and they claimed they wanted to continue with construction, then I suppose I could be persuaded. After all, who would know better than them if it was worthwhile continuing this in the middle of a global pandemic?

But my gut reaction is that this absolutely should not continue with construction. It is FAR off from being completed and is not designed for patient use anyway. And as far as researching for a cure, CHOP has PLENTY of space for that already assuming they, like other medical research facilities across the planet, will be changing their priorities to try and find a treatment or a vaccine for COVID-19.

I've seen it stated multiple times that construction is not a job that requires a lot of close contact between people, but that is really missing the point entirely. We're already at the point where just the essential people who need to leave their homes to work in order to continue supporting everyone else who is staying home is a pretty large percentage of the population from delivery drivers, sanitation, retail workers, and of course health care workers, among others. It was just announced today that even if everyone who can stay home, stays home, we're still looking at possibly 200,000 deaths. The more people who don't stay home, the more those numbers rise.

Working on this project doesn't just mean some workers largely working far apart from one another on a construction site. It also means they'll need to drive into work, get gas, park their car, eat lunch, etc. It also means people will need to continue working to produce and deliver materials to the jobsite, etc.

Also, I'd honestly be surprised if CHOP even asked for an exception. I know a lot of people in the healthcare field and the feeling right now is one of heading into war. The number of cases continues to rise exponentially and many philly healthcare workers don't even have adequate equipment to protect themselves even now, much less in two weeks when hospitals will almost certainly be overflowing.

Obviously the doctors at chop aren't going to be building this thing, but I imagine having this ongoing construction would occupy the time of at least some of the people who work for CHOP in a management capacity. I get the feeling that with all that's going on, they don't want to have anything that is not essential on their plate right now and this building is not essential.

And I'm sorry, but this isn't panic or hysteria. This is reasoned logic preached by every relevant expert in the field. This is simple math. The only way to stay afloat while we bide our time for a vaccine is social distancing. That means people who don't need to leave their home, staying home and that includes the people who were going to build this building.

The mortality rate in Spain for those below 50 is .3 percent. 50-59 is 1 percent. 60-69 is 3.1 percent. 70-79 is 9.8 percent. 80-89 is 21 percent, and 90+ is 25.7 percent.

If your below 60 they should give us a choice to go back to work. Honestly older people should be getting quarantined instead of the whole population.

They are doing the quarantine just in case a 20 year old gets the virus and gives it to their grandparents or others in the age groups who are more in danger, or anyone more in danger then themselves. If i get it i have asthma so it might cause more troublefor me i might go to the hospital but i wont die, however, if i give it to 5 elderly people with comprimised immune systems, they can spread it to others of their age group and in turn kill dozens.

I have studied the pictures on this project. I have seen the crane on-site. I have viewed the lot from the train right next to it. But I still can't figure out exactly how this building fits into the land around it.

Yet the hospitalization rate from people who contract Corona under 55 in America is over 20 percent, with almost 5 percent of patients under 55 ending up in critical condition. We also know this virus is incredibly contagious and despite probably the most extreme anti-pandemic measures in human history, corona cases are still rising exponentially around much of the world.

Allowing people under 60 to end their self quarantine makes the disastrously stupid assumption that mortality rates will remain consistent as cases rise exponentially. Mortality rate for those under 55 in America is said to be under one percent. But how do you think things will go for the five percent of people under 55 who require critical care but won't be able to receive it because the hospitals will be overflowing? Here's a hint: not well.

This isn't just about old people. Young relatively healthy people will die if they can't receive the treatment they require.

Stay inside.

It's a confusing project site for sure. It wraps partially around the Beurger Center into part of where a plaza was. Additionally, but it's not clear in the rendering, I believe part of the back of Buerger will be demolished to give this building more floor space where they connect.

This is what I came up with. It was difficult to arrange it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7af424a9_h.jpgHub for Clinical Collaboration

As the Buerger Center was being built I found it alittle odd that it's east face, the side facing the river and giving a cityscape viewpoint, was blank, with no windows, and I also wondered why this new building left a small, more or less unused piece of land along its eastern edge.

And as soon as this office tower was announced it was obvious that it had been planned for in the design of Buerger. So, I assume that even though the footprint of this tower seems tight and compacted, this it is what has been intended right from the start.

I think the Buerger building was also designed with the possibility of adding additional floors to it's height as needed. I wonder if that explains why this tower is taller then Buerger and someday we may see what appears to be a 5 to 8 floor difference in height evened out.

Pretty sure this is exactly right. It's definitely a confusing layout.

It seems like a big hole split by a driveway. Perhaps they're going to build under then over the driveway

Your explanations and drawings are very helpful. Thank you. As you all have noted, there must be some element of either demo or building over something that already exists on the site.

It appears that construction is back on again. This weekend there will be a road closure related to the project.

Has there ever been a proposal for a pedestrian bridge south of South st? Area could maybe benefit from it. And the south st bridge has that intersection in the middle that makes me not the best for pedestrians.

^^^^^^^
At one point early in Penn's planning for their new, and since built park, their drawings showed a bridge north of the South St. bridge, and continuing westward into the campus, but I haven't seen anything proposed or dreamed about south of South St.
The old RR swing bridge just south of Grey's Ferry bridge is being rebuilt to connect the paths on both banks of the River.

Yep. I wish they followed through with it because it would have been a game changer for Penn, Schuylkill Banks and center city. https://i.imgur.com/2npAb04.png

Notice in this rendering they show the 700 foot version of 2 Liberty Place
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...590be394_o.jpg2 Liberty Place concept architectural model by Thomas Koloski, on Flickr
And the 880 foot Mellon Bank Center
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9017308e_b.jpg880 foot Mellon Bank Center (1735 Market) by Thomas Koloski, on Flickr

What's the blocky building in front of Mellon Bank that's not on the University City side though?

^ Great finds. Def remember that pedestrian bridge proposal north of South St. They need to rescope that idea.

Adding one south of South St to connect CHOP on both sides of the river would be such a common sense proposal too. Adding more pedestrian and bike bridges to connect center city, Fairmount, and UC would be pivotal for ease of travel through the city. UC would become so much more central and accessible.

Thanks! While researching I found out that when Mellon Bank Center was first revealed in early August 1986, the height of the spire on One Liberty Place was increased by 30 feet...while under construction! (One Liberty was up to the bottom of the William Penn statue by then) Notice that image says the height of One Liberty is 915 feet, not the current height now.

TK, I can also recall that when Cigna signed onto Liberty 2, they needed considerably more office space than the proposed tower would hold. So they shot it up to it's current height and added that huge addition (bulge) on the lower 2/3 of the tower. But that might not be all correct. Did you happen across any of that in your research?

Yes, I found everything from the 700 foot tower to the sketches by Helmut himself showing added space, and some more architectural models. You ARE correct. But this isn't the place to discuss. Should I either put it on the highrise forum or dm?

The tower crane for this one is visible on the left.
There is another (higher) crane sticking up behind CHOP. Anyone know what that's for?

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Our View in 2020 by Tom Ipri, on Flickr

There may be another tower crane going up for this? Saw it going over the Walnut Street bridge, and that's what it looked like, but I'm unsure.

You're correct, I saw them assembling it from NJ like a week ago

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...86349f30_b.jpgCHOP Hub crane erection by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

I saw this coming up 76 on Sunday

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f5e2633d_b.jpgCHOP Hub from Camden by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...186a7975_b.jpgCHOP Hub under construction by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

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Nice!