1800-1898 Main Street (East 2nd & Main) | 106ft | 11fl
 

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This is a pretty major intersection traffic-wise...

What will really dictate the success is the ground-level retail that will end up going in here. It feels very standalone right now considering there's nothing major on the other corners atm.

Why so short?

Is there any ground level retail going in on the other side of Main, currently under construction? I can't recall. There are still vacant CRUs on Main north of 1st Ave. Plenty of foot traffic though, and the new MEC store should drive a ton more foot and bike traffic, among others.

This section of main and second has always had retail here. Why would you think now it wouldn't work?

The retail on Main near 2nd was pretty sketchy over the past few years, with the sorts of business surviving on low rent in buildings waiting to be redeveloped. It's unlikely that developers will want to offer low rents - at least not until the units have sat empty for a long while - so it will be different businesses that they hope to attract. MEC moving here may change the area, if the rivals currently up on W Broadway that offer similar gear choose to move near the new MEC store. Then we'll see a lot of empty stores on West Broadway, unless there's another 'theme' that opens up a set of stores. It's not obvious that we're missing anything though - the furniture stores cluster around South Granville, and the Boarding cluster is at W4th and Burrard.

Auto shops, offices. Changing slowly.

Looks okay.
The offset panel trend is getting a bit too common these days.

The former Scotiabank at the opposite corner was often robbed.

What would help retail would be taller ceiling heights.
i.e. compare to the retail being built (on ground floor of lowrises) in Burnaby on Hastings in The Heights.
The ceiling heights look like they are 15-20 ft.

Viewcone 22, or 23 from 6th Ave looking north.

Any news on this development?

Sorry to bump.

Rezoning application didn't go through.

https://council.vancouver.ca/20210622/documents/rr4.pdf


Under the Broadway Plan the site now requires 20% of units below market rent for residential but office or hotel use is also permitted. Building height and density is capped at what was proposed here because of the view cone.

Interesting, thanks for the info.

Weird that the applicant didn't propose some sort of CAC.

That view cone has to be the most ridiculous one of the lot. In the middle of a 6 lane stroad intersection with no pedestrian crossing, guess the CoV thinks drivers should be looking at the mountains and not the road.

I guess they thought doing rental over strata was the community benefit.

That meeting was 18 months ago. Nothing since?

Not really. The rezoning that Council decided not to hear was the second. "In February 2017, the same applicant team submitted a similar rezoning application, except that the previous project included 13 moderate income rental (MIR) units as the CAC offer. The 2017 and 2020 applications contained similar land use, height, density, and form of development.

The 2017 application was approved, in principle, following the Public Hearing on July 31, 2018. Subsequently, the owner chose not to bring forward the Housing Agreement to Council for approval and the CD-1 By-law was not enacted. The site remains under its original IC-2 zoning."

So there was already a done deal that had a CAC offered, and then Cressey decided not to run with it. While construction costs have risen, so have rents, so it's hard to see any justification for not having some sort of benefit for extra density.

Thanks for that Changing City. I was trying to reconcile the fact that there were two applications for this site, with one being approved and the other one not.

Good to know the City won't accept a bait & switch

This site with its proximity to everything would already have a skyscraper standing on it if this were Burnaby or any other suburban city.

Vancouver problem.

Main and 2nd? A skyscaper? :rolleyes:

2nd and Quebec just a block away:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2692...7i16384!8i8192

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

That's a skyscraper?

So, is this a Vancouver problem or not? You're really all over the place... par for the course I guess.

Of course it is, it's got a mall at the bottom and everything!

I think at about 500m from SkyTrain you'd get the same in any jurisdiction outside Vancouver.

And in terms of density, many in Burnaby are lower. Some are the same. Some are higher, (as they are on sites in Vancouver). For example, Slate, on Lougheed. Exactly the same density as the W2nd project. 5.0 FSR (but with 46 storeys).

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The density of of that site can't be much higher than this, maybe 6fsr at the most, I tried searching the SEFC thread not couldn't find anything.

5.3. Almost the same.

^Thanks, almost the same BuT vAnCoUvEr SuX cAuSe ItS nOt A tOwEr!!!