SkyscraperPage Forum - Winnipeg | University of Manitoba

SkyscraperPage Forum (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/index.php)

- Manitoba & Saskatchewan (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=129)

- - Winnipeg | University of Manitoba | Southwood Circle (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234153)

Winnipeg | University of Manitoba | Southwood Circle

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54500646619_e67860d6f7_c.jpg

Southwood Circle (University of Manitoba development)
Location: 230 University Crescent-North Campus Lands
Developer: UM Properties
Status: In development

Recent activities include site servicing, road construction, and riverbank stabilization, with some active transportation routes closed for safety during construction.

Documents:

Media:

University of Manitoba unveils landmark urban community project–The Globe and Mail
Southwood Circle development aims to create a city within the city–CBC News Manitoba YouTube

Description: Southwood Circle is a major mixed-use infill development project in south Winnipeg, located on approximately 110.67 acres of former Southwood Golf and Country Club land, adjacent to the University of Manitoba’s Fort Garry campus. It aims to transform the area into a sustainable, walkable urban community, often described as Manitoba’s first “UniverCity” and the largest infill project in Winnipeg’s history. The $6-billion development, managed by UM Properties (an arm’s-length entity of the University of Manitoba), will be built in four phases over 20 years, with construction starting in 2024 and will include over 11,000 residential units (apartments and townhouses) to house up to 20,000 people, and 300,000 square feet of commercial retail space. The development emphasizes on sustainability and renewable energy, LEED Gold buildings, geothermal energy, carbon capture, on-site recycling, composting, and EV sharing. Over 5,000 mature trees (some 300 years old) will be preserved, with two trees planted for every one removed, and 21 acres of parkland, including 9 acres of Red River waterfront, will be developed. A Living Lab Research Consortium will involve developers, faculty, and students in data-driven research to enhance sustainability and community wellness. Southwood Circle aims to integrate the university with Winnipeg’s urban fabric and connect to downtown via rapid transit. With a projected daily campus population of 60,000, it’s set to become Manitoba’s second-largest urban centre after Winnipeg.

All lots within Southwood will be available under a lease term of 99 years with a one time pre-payment of land rent that will approximate the freehold value of the land parcel. The land lease is renewable for condominiumized projects.The land lease model is common for university campus developments and has a well established trading and track record for borrowing and selling at UBC, Simon Fraser and UCalgary. The Southwood model is based directly upon the UCalgary model.

Quote:

U of M's vibrant vision for Southwood unveiled
By: Ben Waldman
Posted: 06/13/2018 10:39 PM

University of Manitoba administrative vice-president Andrew Konowalchuk outlined the university’s Fort Garry campus development plans, including those for its upcoming Southwood Lands development, to a group of industry stakeholders Wednesday afternoon, about one month after a board was appointed to oversee the Southwood operations.

It’s long been known that the Southwood development would feature mixed housing, but the area is projected to house anywhere between 1,200 and 1,800 residential units within its first 10 years, along with roughly 500,000 square feet of commercial retail space, Konowalchuk told guests at a luncheon thrown by the Building Owners and Managers Association of Manitoba. "We certainly see Southwood as a foundation of our future on campus," he said.

In 2008, the university’s purchase of the 120-acre parcel of land from the Southwood Golf and Country Club was finalized, and in 2011, U of M officially acquired it. In 2012, the university held an international competition to determine plans for the property; Toronto-based landscape-architecture firm Janet Rosenberg and Studio won, and planning has been ongoing since 2014.

Though there is no timeline regarding the start date for the Southwood development, Konowalchuk said he hopes the project will help the university transition from a commuter institution into a "destination" with stores, restaurants and other businesses.

"We need the development community and private investors to come to the table and see the same vision that we have around a vibrant, walkable, dense, compact, urban-feeling development adjacent to the Fort Garry campus," he told the Free Press.

Southwood represents an opportunity for large-scale market-driven development, an undertaking the university is familiar with after its experiences with SmartPark, a collection of buildings and office spaces on U of M property leased at market rates to external tenants, a group mainly comprising science, technology and research firms. Eighteen companies currently lease space in the SmartPark, and a newly built four-storey facility still has vacancies, Konowalchuk said.

The university consulted with more than 1,000 students, faculty and neighbourhoods in the Southwood planning process thus far, and also consulted with Indigenous leaders and elders.

Bus rapid transit infrastructure is already in place at the Fort Garry campus, but Konowalchuk said he isn’t concerned about the additional transit load a new residential area could create; since planning began, the university has consulted with the city’s planning and properties department, Winnipeg Transit and Manitoba Hydro. Konowalchuk said future plans include creating an additional four-lane roadway between Markham Road and the existing BRT line.

The board responsible for steering the project is chaired by Bob Silver, Free Press and Brandon Sun co-owner, and includes Rick Adams, David Barnard, Steve Demmings, Bob Ellard, Diane Gray and Lynn Zapshala-Kelln.

"It’s really up to that group to get shovels in the ground," Konowalchuk said.

[email protected]

Southwood Circle Developments

Anne Oake Family Recovery Centre
Location: Corner of Snow Street and Dartmouth Drive behind Victoria General Hospital
Neighbourhood: Montcalm - Waverley West Ward (Assiniboia Community Committee)
Developer: The Bruce and Anne Oake Memorial Foundation
Architect: MMP Architects Inc.
Status: In Development
Documents: Conditional Use-October 9, 2025 | Appeal – February 25, 2026
Media:

Province promises $1.5M for 'critically important' Anne Oake women's recovery centre-CBC News Manitoba Apr 2025

Description: The Anne Oake Family Recovery Centre is a planned women-only addictions treatment facility designed to honor the legacy of Anne Oake, a dedicated advocate for addiction recovery who passed away in 2021. Located on the corner of Snow Street and Dartmouth Drive behind Victoria General Hospital, the 75,000-square-foot, two-story facility will offer 50 to 70 beds and include a licensed on-site daycare to support women with children, addressing a key barrier to treatment by allowing mothers to remain close to their families during recovery. The centre will provide long-term residential treatment, modeled after the 16-week program at the Bruce Oake Recovery Centre, which combines group therapy, one-on-one counseling, and evidence-based interventions like the Twelve Step Model with behavioral therapy. It aims to offer comprehensive recovery services in a supportive environment, with access to lifelong counseling and a sliding price scale to ensure no one is turned away due to financial constraints. The Manitoba government has committed $1.5 million ($1 million for construction and $500,000 for programming), and the Bruce Oake Memorial Foundation has a $25 million goal. The centre responds to Manitoba's high addiction rates and aims to reduce wait times, providing hope and healing for women and families. No opening date has been confirmed, but efforts are focused on completing the facility as quickly as possible.
Permits: 25-158263 DP-2025-10-01, Permit. Development permit for the extension of site servicing from Phase 1A into Phase 1C. This is to provide services to the future Anne Oake Recovery Centre.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54654599807_780357e818_c.jpg

No shiny pictures?

Anyways, good news to hear at the wheels are turning.

I hope to hell this development looks absolutely nothing like the winning project design – it was an awful, sprawling and windswept design. Kind of insane that a landscape architect won the bid...

Also I don't understand the need for a big road between the stadium and Markham... that's not a far distance, and what would it even be connecting? If anything a N-S road from Chancellor Matheson to ~Thatcher/Pembina would make much more sense.

Been wondering when we'd see movement on Southlands. Haven't noticed anything happening on the golf course lately.

The wheels sure turn slowly at U of M. 10 years since they purchased the property (how does it take 3 years to get from "finalized" to "officially acquired"?) and still no start date or pictures.

Not a fan of the university forcing a new four-lane road between Markham and the BRT, but who knows if it'll actually happen.

I think this is a strange role for the university. Smartpark is linked quite closely to the research and development mission of the u, but neighbourhood residential? I guess I am missing something ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelleb (Post 8221475)

The 4 lane road will run E-W starting at Sifton road (currently 2 lanes Westbound) all the way to the transit line (between Markham and IGF station), at which point it will follow the transitway to Southpark Drive, making that portion of the road multi-use, not just exclusive to transit.

You can see it in the PDF map of the Southwest transitway plans, in faint grey outline if you zoom in to the U of M area

http://winnipegtransit.com/assets/1729/Overall_Wall_map_-_170209_lowres_2.pdf

The reason this is moving slowly is that the U of M is making sure the execution of this project is done properly. They own the land and I presume they don’t pay tax on it since they are an academic institution so from a financial perspective, there is no time crunch and they will make more money if this is done properly. Not like a typical developer where vacant land = paying taxes and no revenue

Regarding the architect comments, aren’t those types of contests usually just for publicity and a large portion of the evaluation is the artistic element?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacheguy (Post 8221514)

I think this is a strange role for the university. Smartpark is linked quite closely to the research and development mission of the u, but neighbourhood residential? I guess I am missing something ..

Would be a revenue stream, like how The Forks is also developing their land.

the so called "smartpark" doesn't give the slightest hope that they'll do anything worthwhile here (especially since several of the board members were responsible for that abomination). they basically dropped an industrial park down onto the edge of campus and ringed it with surface parking lots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by borkborkbork (Post 8221875)

Smartpark flat out sucks. I truly hope U of M learned from its mistakes. It's annoying how much land was squandered for that... they could have easily fit everything built into half the space.

That said, the initial signs for the golf course lands are looking better. It's a great large-scale infill opportunity and it'll be interesting to see what happens. This board should put Forks North Portage on speed dial since FNP has built up considerable expertise in developing land appropriately.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bomberjet (Post 8221399)

No shiny pictures?

Anyways, good news to hear at the wheels are turning.

http://www.visionaryregeneration.com/media/160520_WEB_Master_Plan.pdf

There's a ton of information on the concepts and goals of this plan here, and some good pictures / plans in the second part.

Quote:

[University of Manitoba administrative vice-president Andrew Konowalchuk] hopes the project will help the university transition from a commuter institution into a "destination" with stores, restaurants and other businesses.

The challenge is U of M largely attracts students from within Manitoba and more so within Winnipeg. Conservatively it costs a student about $15,000 annual to live on their own and pay for basic necessitates like food. Often students have no or minimal income so they are either taking loans to pay those costs or family is picking them up.

The other challenge U of M has with Southwood is developing the area so it benefits their community. Having a bunch of speculators come in a wild west land grab to secure future income properties is not what they need to have happen.

My vision would be to create relatively small yet independent living for students and new grads. Perhaps something that is owned by U of M or a spin-off arm that puts an age ceiling on who can live there, ie you need to be under 30 to live in this development. Not sure if they could legally pull that off My thinking is if you keep the whole demographic of the neighbourhood constantly on the young end it would naturally attract retailers, etc that are chasing that market.

While I support their quest to maximize the use of their lands, by golly they should be focusing on moving and developing more of their campuses downtown.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf13 (Post 8222210)

While I support their quest to maximize the use of their lands, by golly they should be focusing on moving and developing more of their campuses downtown.

They have a whole plan for the Bannatyne campus too, not as huge though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoryB (Post 8222204)

There is a large international student population at the U of M and ICM (International College of Manitoba, which is affiliated with U of M and uses the Fort Garry campus). Not sure of the numbers but it is a decent chunk of the student body, and all those students need housing. But yes, they are not the majority of the institution.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf13 (Post 8222210)

While I support their quest to maximize the use of their lands, by golly they should be focusing on moving and developing more of their campuses downtown.

Bingo. They could take a clue from rrcc in that regard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacheguy (Post 8221514)

I think this is a strange role for the university. Smartpark is linked quite closely to the research and development mission of the u, but neighbourhood residential? I guess I am missing something ..

I agree that from a philosophical standpoint, it is strange for universities to get into the property development game, but it tends to fly under the radar (unlike say MPI getting into the property development game). It's always pitched as a new revenue stream for cash starved universities, but experience suggests it doesn't always work out that way. Nevertheless, the university as property developer is becoming common. Simon Fraser University has developed a ton of residential and commercial over the past decade (see http://univercity.ca), and radically changed the nature of their campus, which was entirely a commuter campus even 15 years ago. I doubt UM could replicate this success because the property market is quite different here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peg (Post 8222198)

http://www.visionaryregeneration.com/media/160520_WEB_Master_Plan.pdf

There's a ton of information on the concepts and goals of this plan here, and some good pictures / plans in the second part.

Hopefully they can pull it off, looks awesome! Thanks for the info.

Unfortunately this thread will go dry as nothing will really start here for at least a couple of years. look for things to start to ramp up 2020ish.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biff (Post 8224294)

Unfortunately this thread will go dry as nothing will really start here for at least a couple of years. look for things to start to ramp up 2020ish.

Clap, clap, clap.

Without renders, I give it at least 5 years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peg (Post 8222233)

They have a whole plan for the Bannatyne campus too, not as huge though.

Nice to hear!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacheguy (Post 8222285)

Bingo. They could take a clue from rrcc in that regard.

Exactly.

This was one of the landlord's, in particular Artis points for opening up P+M.

They basically said "we're in favour of opening because we want downtown to thrive. Now you show it too... a) all landlords are upgrading, so brighten up the public underground b) bring more of U of M downtown. RRC has thrived here, bring U of M here. This will flood downtown with the people you claim to want here c)few other smaller things."

Bump, for UofM discussion

WARNING::koko::koko::koko:

I have a better idea. Turn that area into a swamp instead.

Just hear me out.

The UofM says it wants to find ways of attracting students and recognition to the campus. What do you think would make it more likely to stand out among other universities. Some more generic lackluster development which you could find at any other University campus in North America, or take advantage of it's setting on the river and significantly enhance it's natural qualities? Turning that golf course into a wetland wouldn't be that hard at all, seeing that's what the area originally was before hand, and in fact it even apparently had a small coulee going through connecting it to the red river. A dead giveaway that this area was once a wetland is the foundation repairs going on at the 4 year old IGF stadium. Apparently the grounds of a former marshland is not the most ideal place for building giant heavy structure like a football stadium.

I understand if you think it's only gonna end up as a breeding ground for mosquitoes, but the Fort Garry has proven itself numerous times as an area where uncommonly seen wildlife can frequently be spotted. This is a place where a freaking snapping turtle was found walking in the middle of university crescent in broad daylight.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...D382784&usg=AOvVaw1Xent98AfG_Dh7LblRKFf8

In fact snapping turtle sightings in the river at the U of M are surprisingly common. If we capitalized on this fact already and a put a wetland area right beside it could attract not only snapping turtles, but painted turtles, frogs, snakes, or even a few rare species of salamanders that we have in Manitoba. And we could design the area from scratch to specifically appeal to those animals habitat needs. It would make a great little experiment in wetland restoration, which I'm sure some people working at the university are already studying. It would reinforce winnipeg's status as a "river city" to have a little nature park like that made, and I'm sure a man made wetland constructed from scratch at a university would attract significant media attention from around the continent.

It would also be the perfect way to advertise to students the campuses expertise in ecology and environmental science, which is a pretty fast growing trendy field in the higher education world these days.

The fact that the land is already a green space should give people pause to think more carefully about developing it. They're not making anymore new green space these days. When you develop greenspace it usually means that it's gone forever, and that's just a fact. Unless someone can suggest a development plan that's truly equally as noteworthy as that I will remain firmly unconvinced that it isn't better off being left as a golf course. If the UofM wants to expand I'd prefer if they first focus on parking lot infill and expanding downtown, or even using some of that empty land they have just south of the stadium to expand their campus. The only reason they're interested in building anything on the golf course is because it's a lot of undeveloped land that's all in one place, which makes developers mouths water. But the rest of us know it only encourages incoherent and inefficient uses of land that could of just as easily have been built on any of the generously large parking lots spread throughout the campus. It sounds less "swanky" when a development plan is supposed to take place on equally large amount of area but is more spread out separately among an area I guess.

Now that's thinking outside of the box. I like it.

take what they did with destroying the parker wetlands for the "rapid" transit project to the u of m and transport it directly to their front door!
fort whyte alive 2.0

Looking through the long term Visionary (re)Generation plan, most of the golf course (almost everything north of Markham) will be left as green space. At this point I would assume there are no firm plans with what form it will take but it shows the University does plan for greenspace, and that there is room both for it and a new community

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 8339731)

take what they did with destroying the parker wetlands for the "rapid" transit project to the u of m and transport it directly to their front door!
fort whyte alive 2.0

parker wetlands right, the made up name for an area that was historically dry prairie with scrub bush.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrskylar (Post 8339942)

parker wetlands right, the made up name for an area that was historically dry prairie with scrub bush.

I'm all for development and you will never see me chained to a tree in protest of anything, but the way this forest was moved down was kinda tragic. It could have been more thoughtfully managed to keep part of the forest as an actual asset to the whole city. If you don't agree with me, go take a walk through the Assiniboine forest and get back to me.

Yer right Jeff. That was just dumb. Even Waverly West kept a lot of forest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrskylar (Post 8339942)

parker wetlands right, the made up name for an area that was historically dry prairie with scrub bush.

LOL, the first and most obvious fact about the geography of Winnipeg is that the word "dry" isn't a very good description of the cities environment. While it's true that the yearly amount of precipitation we get isn't that different from any other part of the Canadian prairies, the fact that the red river valley is one of the flattest regions of land on earth AND being the dumping ground of 2 countries spring melts negates that.

The vast majority of Winnipeg was originally either permanent or temporary seasonal wetlands. It was really only the northwest quadrant of the city where you could find the true dry grassland that you would associate with most of manitoba, and that was only because of it's elevation and the numerous streams that drained the area such as such sturgeon & colony creek.

Meanwhile everything south of the Assinniboine and east of the red was too flat for any real streams to develop, so the water mostly sat and accumulated in wet meadows and and forested bush if you were closer to the river.

The parker lands may not have been a full blown swamp but they were enough of a wetland to be filled with the sounds of croaking frogs in the evening. Can you name a place within walking distance inside the city near where you live where you can be guaranteed to see a frog? I live close to Omands creek and it's difficult to come across frogs even there under most circumstances. So naturally, people were kinda pissed when their local neighborhood nature spot they never consented to selling off to developers was sawed down 3rd-world-country-style right in front of their very doorsteps. Just because the protests were hijacked by left wing activists who turned a greenspace preservation issue into a 'native lands' social justice act doesn't make that area any less wet than it already was.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolselyMan (Post 8340787)

The parker lands may not have been a full blown swamp but they were enough of a wetland to be filled with the sounds of croaking frogs in the evening. Can you name a place within walking distance inside the city near where you live where you can be guaranteed to see a frog?

Yes, Frog Plain Park on Frog Plain Way. :D

The development near the water is making the FREAKIN' FROGS GAY!!!

bois des esprits is another good example and certain parts of royalwood!

From Winnipeg Construction thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dam_well (Post 9091263)

https://globalnews.ca/news/7433694/mixed-use-development-southwood-golf-country-club-u-of-m/

I might be late to the party on this one but this was announced yesterday.

Seems pretty ambitious in terms of the number of units they want to build. I just hope they don't squander their land by wasting it the way that they did with Smart Park, which always struck me as a bit of a model for how not to develop university land.

Smart Park is a disaster, but luckily everything is sooooo spread out that it could be salvaged and filled in well one day. Problem is UM has WAY too much land to develop now.

They should open a golf course. :runaway:

Sadly this is being handled by another out of touch developer. They know saying a grocery store is planned for the development sells things. Reality is there is already a Safeway across Pembina from the development, a larger Sobeys a short drive north, a large Superstore on Bison and Save on Foods in building at Bishop and Pembina.

Even looking past the whole groceries as traditional retail is a dying industry argument for a minute, who exactly is opening this proposed grocery store on the Southlands development? Dominion? Metro? Hyvee? Piggy Wiggly? Albertsons? /s

Seriously it was dead before the thought even formed in their head and is 1000x more likely to never happen than a downtown grocery store.

^ When they say grocery store do they mean a supermarket to serve the entire community or just a small greengrocer to provide students an option without having to leave campus? It's been a while since I was a U of M student but from what I recall, the only food options at the time were the various restaurants and cafes, and the tiny convenience store in University Centre.

With the amount of residents they are planning to have on campus, I could see a small store, like a Carrefour City type shop (basically a convenience store with a good selection of grocery basics including produce, bakery and meat items) working out...

I don't know what the critical population needed for a laege grocery chain store to be profitable, but there's almost always a decent sized grocer in smaller towns with 3000-5000 people.

If the U of M is already looking at 2000 units and this development is going up to 10k units, plus residence students, it could be enough people to convince a big name supermarket. Maybe coop might want a presence there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildCake (Post 9092605)

Yes but those towns also serve a hinterland that adds a sizeable percentage of people. This includes more than just farmers but smaller towns from 50 to 100 kilometers away depending on where you are, exactly.

^ Yeah, I think it could be a small convenience-type grocer rather than a big supermarket.

That said, if they did somehow entice a major supermarket to set up there, the market wouldn't just be the residents of that development, it would also be the huge population of students and employees who are on campus every day. I work at the U of M and I would absolutely do all my grocery shopping there before heading home. More convenient than my current routine of hopping off the bus along Pembina.

I work at the U of M and just finished studying there. I think a small grocer would do well there. It wouldn't just be students living on or near campus that would be using it, but people who commute to and from campus would use it out of convenience. Considering the rapid transit will run next to this development it wouldn't be hard to imagine people commuting home from U of M to pick up a few things before getting on the bus, I know I would have!

Also, it wouldn't necessarily have to be a chain. A lot of the businesses on campus that are not controlled by Aramark are run by UMSU (Students Union) Degrees (restaurant), Hub (Bar). IQ's (pool/coffee shop), GPAS's (convenience store). It wouldn't be too hard to imagine them opening a small grocer or at least reworking GPA's into a bigger store with more options.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildCake (Post 9092605)

It isn't so much what size population do you need to support a large grocery store it is a more a double hit: those stores are starting to die out in general and the U of M campus is already a very short distance from most of the players. It is similar to asking how large a population base is needed to support an added Best Buy location while ignoring there is one already just off campus.

That said Co-op is definitely one I forgot to account for. There is no location close to the U of M campus and the recent announcement and start of construction on the new Seasons location proves they are willing to open new locations.

The other one I forgot to account for is an Asian grocery store like Lucky's or Seafood City. Yes, they don't have the depth of packaged dry goods of other grocery stores but they have some and they have all the fresh segments well covered. In normal times U of M has a sizable Asian student population. Also southwest Winnipeg currently lacks as an Asian focused store of the scale of Lucky's or Seafood City and they wider area has a sizable Asian population.

I looked into this....that news item was not an announcement of anything new.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoryB (Post 9092941)

Co-op is opening a new store in St. Norbert very soon. It's not even a 10 minute drive away. Lots grocery store along Pembina Highway. Let's throw in Shopper's, Giant Tiger, Dollar Tree, Dollarama.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn99 (Post 9099106)

Co-op is opening a new store in St. Norbert very soon. It's not even a 10 minute drive away. Lots grocery store along Pembina Highway. Let's throw in Shopper's, Giant Tiger, Dollar Tree, Dollarama.

Completely agree. I'm just wondering if there will be a market for an additional grocer like the developers are touting.

I think there is potential. All the current grocery stores are surviving with the current population. Save On is entering the area but there has been some densification just north on Pembina and they will also serve Bishop Grandin Crossings (sugar beet land infill).

I know that the Safeway by Giant Tiger is pretty quiet but that could be a result of proximity to superstore and the financial demographics of the area.

It might not be a national chain or a large footprint store but I think a scaled down grocer could work.

This is U of M related but not related to the Southwood lands.

It seems as though the University is finally going through with the rest of the Tache Hall Arts Complex.

Renders for the Desualts Concert Hall and more regarding it have become available:

https://i.postimg.cc/vgQkSJkj/desautels-01.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/23Sgdf4L/desautels-02.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/gLj5GvYH/desautels-05.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/nCs55YSH/desautels-06.jpg

(sorry for the small pictures, they are bigger on the website below)

UM Website
Renders

^ That's awesome. It always felt like a concert hall was one of those things missing from the U of M's checklist of good things to have. That will be a great thing for the Faculty of Music and I'm sure it will be useful to the broader university community too.

I remember from my University of Alberta days walking by the Timms Centre for the Arts regularly when it was still fairly new. It's a different type of venue but I wondered why the U of M didn't have something like that...

http://timmscentre.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/DSC002342.jpg

As a current student in the University this seems like a great implementation for the whole student body. I’m not sure how often I’ll actually get to spectate because Architecture school is an absolute bitch and a half but I digress.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire (Post 9338332)

They didn't have enough Timmbits to pay for it.