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nihil Aug 8, 2017 3:24 PM

428 Main Street West | 37.6m | 10 fl | Proposed
 
Anybody have information on this project?


http://horseshoerealestate.com/proje.../hamilton-main

davidcappi Aug 8, 2017 4:00 PM

Lamb owns the land. It's currently a car wash. Nothing currently planned for it yet.

nihil Nov 16, 2017 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidcappi (Post 7887535)
Lamb owns the land. It's currently a car wash. Nothing currently planned for it yet.

So Lamb is working with Movengo on this project as well as on Television City. With all the gloss on Television City marketing it seems strange that Lamb would allow this amateur website by Movengo do the talking for 428 Main:

http://www.movengocorp.com/428-main-street-w.html

Brad Lamb doesn't even mention this project on his website. Back when the land purchase was made he talked of this project having 400 units, that rendering of a six floor low rise doesn't seem like a Lamb project.

Any thoughts?

davidcappi Nov 16, 2017 7:46 PM

Lamb has build midrises before. I would also hardly call that a render, more like an experiment in massing.

Parc (complete):
http://east55condos.ca/wp-content/up...TS_GALLERY.jpg

Brant Park (complete):
http://www.lambdevcorp.com/images/br...07-Cropped.jpg

Work Lofts (complete):
http://east55condos.ca/wp-content/up...AM_GALLERY.jpg

The Harlowe (currently under construction)
http://east55condos.ca/wp-content/up...E_EXTERIO1.jpg

Chronamut Nov 16, 2017 8:03 PM

I like the scale of that last one - it's intimidating, but in a good way.

Also like the second last one, we could use more geometric shapes in hamilton other than "square" or some other shape easily made in an cad program.

HamiltonComAppraiser Nov 30, 2017 5:37 PM

Our most recent data indicates he's planning to build 2 x 10 storey towers, for a total of 200 residential units, and a parking garage with 165 spaces.

lachlanholmes Nov 30, 2017 5:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HamiltonComAppraiser (Post 8003163)
Our most recent data indicates he's planning to build 2 x 10 storey towers, for a total of 200 residential units, and a parking garage with 165 spaces.

Oh well, they can't all be high rises. :(

thmx Nov 30, 2017 6:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HamiltonComAppraiser (Post 8003163)
Our most recent data indicates he's planning to build 2 x 10 storey towers, for a total of 200 residential units, and a parking garage with 165 spaces.


That's just what the site is zoned for, I posted about it a few years back...
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Originally Posted by thomax (Post 6901226)

Zizzo's Car Care at 428 Main Street West is for sale with the potential to be redeveloped into two 10-storey buildings, with a combined 200 residential units.

www.collierscanada.com - Carwash with Redevelopment Potential

http://i62.tinypic.com/2zqqur8.jpg
Source

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Lamb already said the development he has planned for the site has 400 residential units, so he's most likely going to apply to have it re-zoned for two taller towers. Potentially two 20-storey towers.

TheRitsman Nov 30, 2017 9:45 PM

Even at 10 storeys, it would be something that is much nicer to look at coming into Hamilton off the 403. That whole area needs some work. It's not the greatest entrance to a city on the planet...

lachlanholmes Dec 30, 2017 12:52 AM

Zizzo's Car Care & Mor has been fenced off with demolition signs.

Site owned by Brad Lamb, he's moving fast!

nihil Jan 2, 2018 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scootaround (Post 8031693)
Zizzo's Car Care & Mor has been fenced off with demolition signs.

Site owned by Brad Lamb, he's moving fast!

There's no zoning change/development applications submitted, those fences have been there for about a month now since the car wash stopped operating. They were most likely put up as a protection against liability given that its now an unmaintained lot, rather than for demolition.

The rendering on the Movengo site is not going to be 400 units as Lamb suggested he was doing. He will have to build higher if that's truly what he intends to do, and in doing so he will need more setback, which means buying some neighboring houses. Rob Golfi attempted to buy some of these houses acting as agent to Brad Lamb's group back in the spring BEFORE Lamb closed on the car wash sale.

Seems like this project is on hold until either they can acquire surrounding houses to build towers or just give up and build a 6 story L-shaped low rise. I feel like the former is more profitable and in that case this is not moving fast at all.

davidcappi Jul 26, 2018 9:52 AM

This project will be called, get this, Main

nihil Jul 26, 2018 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by davidcappi (Post 8262395)
This project will be called, get this, Main

May I ask where you got this information?

NortheastWind Jul 26, 2018 4:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nihil (Post 8262429)
May I ask where you got this information?

A link in a previous post to the development site indicates it is Main by Lamb Development Corporation

nihil Jul 26, 2018 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NortheastWind (Post 8262702)
A link in a previous post to the development site indicates it is Main by Lamb Development Corporation

I actually posted that link, but that website isn't very credible. I'm just wondering if davidcappi is seeing that name somewhere else.

davidcappi Jul 26, 2018 9:53 PM

https://truecondos.com/hamilton-rising-brad-lamb/

He mentions it in this interview! There are some neat nuggets of info in this podcast. He talks tv city and other Hamilton projects. Hamilton topics start at around 43:00.

Interesting things; in addition to the two midrise projects on Main, he's got another 30 storey tower in the works downtown somewhere. He also mentions that the two TV city towers will go up at the same time instead of in two phases as previously planned. Definitely worth a listen.

lachlanholmes Jul 27, 2018 3:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidcappi (Post 8263149)
https://truecondos.com/hamilton-rising-brad-lamb/

He mentions it in this interview! There are some neat nuggets of info in this podcast. He talks tv city and other Hamilton projects. Hamilton topics start at around 43:00.

Interesting things; in addition to the two midrise projects on Main, he's got another 30 storey tower in the works downtown somewhere. He also mentions that the two TV city towers will go up at the same time instead of in two phases as previously planned. Definitely worth a listen.

Wow... Must be selling TV City pretty damn well then. Good work Brad Lamb.

King&James Jul 27, 2018 3:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidcappi (Post 8263149)
https://truecondos.com/hamilton-rising-brad-lamb/

He mentions it in this interview! There are some neat nuggets of info in this podcast. He talks tv city and other Hamilton projects. Hamilton topics start at around 43:00.

Interesting things; in addition to the two midrise projects on Main, he's got another 30 storey tower in the works downtown somewhere. He also mentions that the two TV city towers will go up at the same time instead of in two phases as previously planned. Definitely worth a listen.

Interesting in podcast - if 40 storey tower 1 is basically sold out and he only gets 2x30 then suspect he would have 1/3rd of tower 2 sold out (less of course those that walked away who purchaesd from 31-40). Also reference made to what must be the Hamilton (Eaton) Centre - wonder if legal mess cleaned up on that one.

LRTfan Jul 27, 2018 3:40 PM

Wow...interesting interview.

He mentions the two short projects on Main West, another 30-storey tower downtown and then a 'gigantic' site downtown where his ultimate hope is a large hotel, a large rental tower, a large condo tower and tons of good retail. Would love to know where that huge site is, and the 30-storey tower site is. $1.4 billion in development plans..... imagine we had a city council that actually wanted investment? We should be parading in the streets...instead we'll have to fight to allow the investment to actually happen.

nihil Jul 27, 2018 5:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LRTfan (Post 8263932)
Wow...interesting interview.

He mentions the two short projects on Main West, another 30-storey tower downtown and then a 'gigantic' site downtown where his ultimate hope is a large hotel, a large rental tower, a large condo tower and tons of good retail. Would love to know where that huge site is, and the 30-storey tower site is. $1.4 billion in development plans..... imagine we had a city council that actually wanted investment? We should be parading in the streets...instead we'll have to fight to allow the investment to actually happen.

82 Queen St North would likely be the 30 story tower and the 'gigantic site' would be Hamilton City Centre

https://www.thepublicrecord.ca/2018/...gone-sideways/

LRTfan Jul 27, 2018 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nihil (Post 8264095)
82 Queen St North would likely be the 30 story tower and the 'gigantic site' would be Hamilton City Centre

https://www.thepublicrecord.ca/2018/...gone-sideways/

I doubt he'd get 30 storeys on Queen N....
Didn't he say that the 30-storey tower is going to be called 'The Main'? That would indicate it's on Main St, no?

lachlanholmes Jul 27, 2018 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nihil (Post 8264095)
82 Queen St North would likely be the 30 story tower and the 'gigantic site' would be Hamilton City Centre

https://www.thepublicrecord.ca/2018/...gone-sideways/

Didn't realize he owned 82 Queen North...

This is an area that isn't right quite in city core proper, but still a 5 minute walk from it. This is a smart lot to develop, IMO.

nihil Jul 27, 2018 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LRTfan (Post 8264160)
I doubt he'd get 30 storeys on Queen N....
Didn't he say that the 30-storey tower is going to be called 'The Main'? That would indicate it's on Main St, no?

He said the two on main would be midrises with the 428 main site being called The Main and having 300 units, which seems like a lot for a mid rise,no? Maybe he intends to buy more property around the Queen site.

johnnyhamont Mar 17, 2019 4:35 AM

Any idea when we'll see proposals or renders for Lambs Hamilton properties beyond tv city?

nihil Mar 25, 2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyhamont (Post 8508526)
Any idea when we'll see proposals or renders for Lambs Hamilton properties beyond tv city?

He submitted a pair of preliminary renders for 428 and 392 Main Street West back in September as part of Formal Consultations. Both were 10 storey mid-rises.

johnnyhamont Dec 28, 2020 12:15 AM

I may be getting prematurely excited but some time in the last 1-2 weeks I saw some machinery on-site - a backhoe and a skid steer loader I think? They aren't there anymore but pilons are all over the site

TheRitsman Dec 28, 2020 1:35 AM

Only thing I can find about this is an old massing render and a seemingly more recent render that is finished and taller.

https://i.imgur.com/REbOlS7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0XYq1a0.png

hongo Apr 3, 2022 7:54 PM

Anyone know what the status of Brad Lamb's property on Main St W? There were plans for a building at the former carwash, but the owner of the house behind was not selling. The designs put forward were 'L' shaped to accommodate the holdout. The guy was a bit of a hoarder. He had cars, boats and all sorts of crap on the property and would often sit there for hours drinking beer and stare at the empty lot in front of him. I noticed a sold sign last week on his lot and all the crap has been carted away.

LikeHamilton Jul 8, 2022 1:09 AM

There was a crew there doing drilling for ground sampling.

Innsertnamehere Jul 8, 2022 9:29 PM

Interesting. Lamb must be getting going again on this one now that Television City has finally proven successful.

LikeHamilton Sep 21, 2022 3:31 AM

From Forge and Foster

Quote:

In the news this week beyond the Connolly, Lamb Developments has sold a 50% interest in 428 Main St. W. in Hamilton to local developer New Horizon Development Group for $2.25 million ($2.8 million/acre).

Innsertnamehere Sep 21, 2022 1:46 PM

means we will likely see some activity here finally again.

TheRitsman Sep 21, 2022 2:08 PM

I just hope to go it includes some retail...

lachlanholmes Sep 26, 2022 6:16 PM

They’re not wasting any time here, as of 1:30 today there was a soil tester at work on site. Sorry, no photo as I was on the bus.

Hawrylyshyn Sep 26, 2022 6:20 PM

Very exciting! Love these little midrises go in along this strip

TheRitsman Sep 27, 2022 1:59 PM

Still soil testing today. Happened to drive past.

TheHonestMaple Oct 6, 2022 10:19 PM

They've put up pylons around the site. Seems like they might be preparing to put up hoarding.

TheHonestMaple Nov 2, 2022 10:44 PM

A fence is now going up around the site.

urban_planner Dec 4, 2022 7:39 PM

Asphalt dug up.

https://i.imgur.com/7xEqXV3h.jpeg

TheHonestMaple Dec 4, 2022 7:57 PM

Wow things are happening fast here. There's almost no information online about this one unfortunately.

catcher_of_cats Dec 4, 2022 10:16 PM

I would think that this lot will stay dormant for a long period since the owner is literally installing a barbed wire fence. That is not the sign of imminent construction.

TheHonestMaple Dec 4, 2022 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by catcher_of_cats (Post 9806578)
I would think that this lot will stay dormant for a long period since the owner is literally installing a barbed wire fence. That is not the sign of imminent construction.

If that's the case, why bother ripping up the parking lot? I suspect something is actually happening here. Some sort of preconstruction preparation.

King&James Dec 4, 2022 11:55 PM

Preventative action against those uninvited!

ScreamingViking Dec 4, 2022 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by King&James (Post 9806649)
Preventative action against those uninvited!

There's nothing there though. Just a big empty space. :shrug:

Innsertnamehere Dec 5, 2022 12:50 PM

there are no development applications here so construction won't be starting any time soon. I assume they are simply cleaning the site up a bit, for whatever reason. That fence looks fairly permanent.

ScreamingViking Dec 5, 2022 4:53 PM

Maybe they do want to minimize the risk of a "tent city" here as well, then. Though it's a very visible lot and the tents have moved to more discrete locations.

mikevbar1 Dec 5, 2022 8:51 PM

Should be a relatively easy application, and I can see Lamb following the suit of other developers by just prepping the site to give the impression he is ready to go whenever the city gives approval. The fence is probably a preventative measure against intrusions, yes, and also to dismiss city concerns that they will actually start without any permits.

TheHonestMaple Jan 10, 2023 4:17 PM

There's definitely something more substantial happening here than just ripping up the parking lot. I drive by pretty much everyday and there's plenty of activity. One area they even seem to be digging below grade level.

TheRitsman Jan 10, 2023 5:12 PM

I've reached out to staff to ask if there are any formal plans here that haven't been updated to the City's site.

TheHonestMaple Jan 10, 2023 5:59 PM

Thanks! Would be a nice surprise if this one was actually starting construction somehow...


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