Terrasses de la Chaudière | Renovation | U/C
 

I stumbled on this article from January 9th about a 175$M exterior renovation of Terrasses de la Chaudière.

Feds readying $175M rehabilitation of Terrasses de la Chaudière in Gatineau
Maybe they'll be able to make it look a little "nicer". :)

For sure they need to work on the street level, but the towers are iconic (IMHO)!

Wouldn't Place du Portage be the country's single largest federal office complex?

Thank God for Liberal spending habits. A different, recent government might have been looking at recladding in vinyl siding! :D

[QUOTE=J.OT13;7677487]For sure they need to work on the street level, but the towers are iconic (IMHO)!

Wouldn't Place du Portage be the country's single largest federal office complex?[/QUOTE]

I believe it may be the largest Canadian Government building in the whole world! :tup:

Meh, what could they do with the current architecture of the buildings. Any idea ?

[QUOTE=kwoldtimer;7677595]Portage is apparently only second to the Pentagon for the number of public employees in a single location.

The whole Portage-Chaudiere-Place du Centre complex area is a massive disaster. The buildings are confusing bunkers that are very difficult to navigate and the integration with streets are almost completely non-existent.

Last I went there to renew my passport, I got so hopelessly lost trying to figure out how to get out of the building and find the return bus stop that I ended up going outside, following the location of the sun to figure out which way was south, and kept going as straight as a I could until I saw the bridge, and got on the bus when I got back to the Ottawa side.

Not only is it butt ugly and a complete disaster in terms on integration, but the they still manage to make it worst by slapping those awful canadian flags on it. Why do the feds only do this in Ottawa? Never seen this crap in Montreal or Toronto.

Vibrant Canadian flags for all Canadians?

Man invented a device for this purpose; it's called a pole.

It's not Chaudière, but I doodled an idea of what a Portage reconstruction might look like:

http://i63.tinypic.com/13zbseh.jpg

(I put the existing buildings in darker blue, proposed in lighter blue and I drew some quick outlines of a redevelopped Kruger site, just for kicks.)


For these kinds of megastructures, you don't really need to demolish the whole thing in order to make some pretty significant improvements. As human beings, we don't really notice anything above the fourth or fifth storey unless we're making an effort to notice it. So you can do a great deal by just improving the outside spaces and rebuilding the ground floors that meet it. Even if the rest of the building is hideous, most people will hardly notice.

Well, this would be interesting:

http://images.radio-canada.ca/w_635,...-chaudiere.png

http://images.radio-canada.ca/w_635,...haudiere-3.png



Cure de rajeunissement pour les Terrasses de la Chaudière

Wow! It would radically change the Gatineau skyline.

NCC launches Nepean Point rejuvenation, approves Ottawa western LRT plan

By Kate Porter, CBC News
Posted: Jan 19, 2017 5:06 PM ET Last Updated: Jan 19, 2017 5:06 PM ET

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New look proposed for Terrasses de la Chaudière

NCC board members also gave federal design approval to a plan to reclad a government complex in Gatineau where 6,500 public servants work.​

The brick façade of the Terrasses de la Chaudière is falling apart, and bricks have even fallen off the building twice since 1997, creating a liability for Public Services and Procurement Canada, according to a NCC report.

The overall project is still at an early stage, but board members received a presentation from NCC senior architect Chris Hoyt about how the complex could be made more pedestrian-friendly, and how its buildings are letting in more light and how they could let in more.

"We went from a very dry cladding project to creating a new place in Gatineau," said board member Michael Pankiw, who commended staff.

Fellow board member Norman Hotson acknowledged there was a shift in direction for the renovation.

"The original vision was a family of buildings," said Hotson, who wondered if that cohesive look shouldn't be maintained.

The NCC will still have to approve other stages of the project, but the idea is for the recladding at Terrasses de la Chaudière to start early next year and finish by 2021.

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...nsit-1.3942853

Wow. I don't think I would have even dared to dream about something like this.

Well, that's... special. I don't know what to think about it.

I think it would take a few days to get used to, but I don't think that it would be worse than the current cladding by any stretch. It might even be quite tasteful.

I'm especially happy to hear that they're going to be completely renovating the ground floor. Hopefully they'll move to make it more transparent and welcoming from street level. If done correctly, it could end up becoming a real asset for Eddy and Portage.

Very cool. That would look great. The recladding they are doing in Winnipeg is really making a difference in their skyline.

I like the red brick, it adds warmth and diversity to the skyline. The ground floor interiors definitely need renovating and could be more open and brighter, but the general exterior to me is not so bad. It reminds me of heritage factory buildings and mills which fits in with the industrial past of that area. The detail of the bricks is also part of how the scale is perceived from a small building block you can hold in your hand to a large complex of buildings that fill your view. I think cladding it in a light, more monolithic material will make the whole thing look massive, and will always look like an awkward re-clad because the materials won't match the original composition of the building forms.

In a way, it's like a modernist interpretation of Châteauesque style, a Minecraft version of the Chateau Frontenac :)

This is kind of sad. Skyline will be all glass and concrete. At least this was different, iconic even. I would have instead opted to only reclad the lower building on the south-west side and build a proper glass atrium and podium. Keep the brick on the towers.

True, I think the new material doesn't match the architecture of the current buildings. It would look quite awkward if you ask me.

As everyone mentioned I'm happy that it is getting some renovations and updates; especially hoping for better ground floor retail and connection to the streets.

I like glass but not sure going from all brick to all glass is the way to go. I would've rather have a variety. Perhaps the low short buildings in brick, do 1 or 2 tall towers in glass and the other medium towers with something else. That way you get more of a variety and more of a "downtown" look with a collection of buildings rather than a one-stop shop for all things brick n' government.

1. The brick can't stay, unfortunately. Whoever thought 27 stories of brick was a good idea from a safety standpoint was part of a different generation....

2. These are concept sketches by a summer student at the NCC... not the finished product.

3. Looks like concrete precast and/or glass spandrels between windows. Probably a good look and modern.

I actually like red brick a lot, and don't mind it on skyscrapers like Barrister House on Elgin in Ottawa.

But the red brick on the Terrasses leaves me cold. I won't be sad to see it go.

The local bricklayers union, a brickmaking company, and a brown envelope on a table at Café Henry Burger, maybe?

I'll reserve my thoughts on this until I see something other than a pencil crayon render.

There are plenty of brick towers all over the world. Just need to upkeep, which is something government has trouble with. They prefer to neglect a building for a few decades to the point where only the structure (or not) is salvageable.

The sheer volume of brick on this building, which is turning 50+ years old requires millions of dollars in upkeep on a continuous carousel of endless work, and even that hasn't stopped the odd chunk from coming down. I'm not sure its a neglect issue, so much as a brick quality and design issue.

The same could be said about a 50 year old building that was or will be clad in glass, precast panels, aluminum panels, etc etc. We even see exterior finishes fail within the first year of installation. Regardless of the exterior finish, endless work needs to be done ever year if not properly installed. Design issues/engineering and poor installation are the main causes. This is far too common.

[QUOTE=AndyMEng;7684683]1. The brick can't stay, unfortunately. Whoever thought 27 stories of brick was a good idea from a safety standpoint was part of a different generation....

Yes, they were from a different generation. A generation where engineers where educated on the field and not in a classroom.

How does the federal development process work? The articles say the NCC board gave federal design approval, but one of the articles also refers to the renderings as a "concept". Does this mean the renderings aren't just a concept but the actual proposed design?

^ here is the full report ... conditional approval of the concept with more steps to including preparation of a master site plan.

http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/sites/defau..._chaudiere.pdf

Quite interesting.

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http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/sites/defau..._chaudiere.pdf

This whole project has caught me by surprise wasn't expecting this.

Is there more information about what's going on north of the Chaudiere building. skimmed through the document said might be residential building they also mentioned multipurpose center.

[QUOTE=BlueJay;7684936]Actually, the building was designed by scientists at the NRC who were testing cutting-edge technology/theories about building science.

http://images.lpcdn.ca/641x427/201403/18/827497.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/arch.../t-201675.html

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http://www.tvagatineau.ca/articles/2...sorganise.html

So glad this project is moving forward. This is a game changer for downtown Gatineau. Hopefully the mayor of Gatineau didn't convince the NCC to replace the brown brick with more brown brick.

http://obj.ca/article/norr-provenche...tract-gatineau

I was waiting for Superman's crystal palace thing, seeing as the building was from 1978 or so.

Terrasses de la Chaudière Revitalization
 

Plans have been revealed for the public square at the base of the buildings. They include an amphitheater, public art and better flow of pedestrian traffic on the site. They also want to add retail.

Work is to begin Spring 2019 and end in 2023. Workforce will grow from 5,000 to 9,000 (through Office 3.0 I assume).

It appears they are removing the bus-loop so OC and STO will have some major route modifications ahead of them.

https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/g...c54c9a5007f241

Any news about the reclad?

Step 1: Press release about public realm.

Step 2: Make sure cladding is stable. Spend a few hundred millies.

Step 3: Upgrade public realm. Spend a little bit of moula.

This should really all go over here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=226581

Sorry about that. I remembered the Clear/New Orchard CDP thread, but not this one.

Moderator, could you merge the two threads please? Sorry for the inconvenience.

Presentation to NCC Board Members June 21 can be found starting around 4h:35m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2AdnTi_dqQ

This video from Public Services and Procurement Canada hasn't been posted yet. I can't wait for this reclad to start.

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Concept:

https://i.imgur.com/uteyKst.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/4FfuJRS.jpg?1

It sure is better than what we have now, heh. This reclading is also much welcome around there, alongside the new Zibi project.

I'd say that it is decent, even though I'm no big fan of the brown stripes on the edges of the buildings.

Designs revealed at NCC Board Meeting.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D34Kbo2WAAEV8lw.jpg

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D34FsSQWwAAb98c.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D34FsPAX4AAXL5p.jpg

https://twitter.com/NCC_CCN/status/1116341229522948096

Wow! Now, i like the little whiter patches (is it glass?) they added to the tallest building. It gives it a certain style. I also like the fact that everything won't be of the same color. I would have liked if one of the tall buildings was lighter, so it would match the small white one better, but then again, i like the project overall.

7/10.

Looks great! Dare I say better than almost anything we are building these days?

Would you call this update international style architecture?

For more info, presentation starts a little after the 38 minute mark of this mornings Board Meeting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqKuG6tcDqo