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Vertical_Gotham Aug 28, 2015 4:23 PM
NEW YORK | 685 First Ave (Con Ed dev) | 459 FT | 42 FLOORS
 
http://therealdeal.com/wp-content/up...-685-First.jpg

Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkling (Post 7145629)
Solow files plans for 42-story tower on East Side
Proposed building is part of long-stalled $4 billion development project

August 28, 2015
Rich Bockmann

Reclusive billionaire developer Sheldon Solow filed plans to build a 42-story mixed-use tower adjacent to his long-vacant development site along the East River, records show.

The owner of one of the city’s most expensive office buildings, 9 West 57, and a portfolio of East Side rental towers, Solow submitted plans to build a 700,000-square-foot apartment tower
with 550 units at 685 First Avenue, according to an application filed with the Department of Buildings Friday.

The site, currently home to a parking lot, sits across First Avenue from a six-acre lot Solow bought from Con Edison in 2005 for $109 million.

Plans call for roughly 10,000 square feet of commercial space, including retail, and another 56,000 for manufacturing.

Solow owns a number of sites along the East River that had figured into his $4 billion redevelopment plan for the area. He’s sold off portions in recent years.

In 2010, Solow sold a site at the northeast corner of First Avenue and 35th Street to the city’s School Construction Authority for $33.25 million.

He also sold the remaining portion of that full block in 2013 for $172 million to JDS Development, which is constructing the 800-unit 626 First Avenue on the property
- See more at: http://therealdeal.com/blog/2015/08/....yh3BGMvI.dpuf


Per DOB
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01


Architect - Richard Meier
459 Feet
42 Floors
770,812 SqFt



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Hypothalamus Aug 28, 2015 5:01 PM
Nice! The architect is Richard Meier & Partners. We can expect something very contemporary, which should compliment the UN Headquarters.

Residential projects: http://www.richardmeier.com/?page_id=200

mrnyc Aug 28, 2015 5:51 PM
^ tall perry street's?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/173_...6_Perry_Street

Vertical_Gotham Aug 28, 2015 6:20 PM
I would expect something similar to what Meier had presented as the master architect years ago for Mr. Solow before he sold off a couple of plots. Now that it appears he's only doing 1 tower, I hope for something more daring like its twin neighbors designed by SHoP.

Below, are his preliminary designs which had called for 4-5 towers:

http://www.richardmeier.com/wp-conte...e-1024x672.jpg


http://www.richardmeier.com/wp-conte...r-1024x764.jpg


http://www.richardmeier.com/wp-conte...e-1024x512.jpg


http://www.richardmeier.com/wp-conte...Ave_LOWRES.jpg

Hypothalamus Aug 28, 2015 6:40 PM
The building on the left is the site.

http://www.richardmeier.com/wp-conte...e-1024x512.jpg

Crawford Aug 28, 2015 8:42 PM
While not a particularly tall tower, I'm still excited because I'm a big Richard Meier fan and he has built some of the best residential buildings in the city.

And it's a big tower, if not a soaring one. Over 800,000 square feet. And at 460 ft. it will at least have a neighborhood presence (unfortunately crazy local NIMBYs cut the height of all these planned towers on the former ConEd sites; otherwise these would have been all near-supertalls).

Eidolon Aug 28, 2015 10:38 PM
It's about time something happened here and hopefully it's a sign that the UN expansion and the former factory are about to see some activity!

--EDIT--
Is it just me or did a bunch of NY threads in the proposed Highrises & Supertall section go down the memory hole? If there's a reason I don't mind, but I'd really appreciate it if anyone could send me the addresses of the buildings in a PM or post them in Hunser's NYC supertalls thread.
Thanks in advance!

scalziand Aug 29, 2015 7:04 PM
^Not sure what you're talking about. There's still like 4 pages of NYC proposals if you sort them alphabetically.

Eidolon Aug 29, 2015 7:26 PM
^^
nvm, I just wasn't looking hard enough. Found the threads that I thought had gone missing.

chris08876 Aug 29, 2015 7:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eidolon (Post 7146922)
^^
nvm, I just wasn't looking hard enough. Found the threads that I thought had gone missing.
Remember to use the directory to find them quickly.

http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...51&postcount=1

I have to update it as some threads where moved to u/c, but a good deal of the threads for NYC on SSP are there.

Along with a compilation, its other purpose is to make it easy to find threads without browsing through tons of pages. Likewise for the recent Texas one I did.

Eidolon Aug 29, 2015 8:00 PM
^^^^
The thread I was looking for isn't there, but I do appreciate the directory. :yes:

This is the thread:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=218529

chris08876 Mar 30, 2016 6:17 PM
Richard Meier-Designed Tower Finally Begins Construction at Turtle Bay South Complex

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http://www.6sqft.com/wp-content/uplo...enue-1-SOM.jpg

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From the few details we’ve spotted on the approved permits, the massing of 685 First will essentially be a gigantic box. The ground floor will contain retail spaces along First Avenue, and the second floor will be packed with amenities such as a fitness center, pool, and library. Floors three through 14 will have 20 apartments apiece, floors 15-20 will have 16 apartments each, and thereafter will be an average of 10 units per floor up to the 42nd level.

Initially pushed forward through a joint venture between Fisher Brothers and Solow Realty & Development, the once nine-acre master plan was formerly home to an imposing Con Edison steam and electricity plant, which was one of the largest such complexes on the East Coast and served one-fourth of Manhattan. Solow purchased the site for $630 million in the mid ’90s and spent more than $100 million on environmental cleanups and demolishing the plant. An ambitious 40-firm architectural competition was held soon after, with finalists including top designers such as Peter Eisenman, Rem Koolhaas, and Christian de Portzamparc working in pairs alongside more pragmatic New York firms such as SLCE, Gary Handel & Associates, and Davis Brody Bond.
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http://www.6sqft.com/richard-meier-d...south-complex/

Hudson11 Mar 30, 2016 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vertical_Gotham (Post 7145834)
I would expect something similar to what Meier had presented as the master architect years ago for Mr. Solow before he sold off a couple of plots. Now that it appears he's only doing 1 tower, I hope for something more daring like its twin neighbors designed by SHoP.

Below, are his preliminary designs which had called for 4-5 towers:

http://www.richardmeier.com/wp-conte...e-1024x672.jpg
unfortunately, this tower was significantly cut in height.

http://www.6sqft.com/wp-content/uplo...enue-Arrow.jpg

Hudson11 May 19, 2016 1:02 AM
WSJ: Architect Richard Meier Changes His Palette for New Tower

https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/...0518134357.jpg

https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/...0518134350.jpg

NYguy May 19, 2016 1:19 PM
From the article...


Quote:
The new Meier-designed building will bear the address 685 First Ave. It will be 828,000 square feet, divided into about two-thirds rental and one-third condominium apartments. Construction work has begun and the site is now being excavated. Completion is scheduled for 2018.

By that time, the designer and builder might have a better sense of what they mean to do with the vast ditch between the new tower and FDR Drive.

Architectural firm Skidmore Owings & Merrill (SOM) may still be tapped for the proposed commercial tower. There is also a planned public-private park of about 1 acre conceived by landscape architect James Corner, one of the creators of the High Line. But Mr. Solow says he’ll be waiting for this project to wrap up before making any final decisions.

Those would include, presumably, whether Mr. Meier would be going back to black for the other buildings. The architect says he likes the new look: 685’s tinted windows, perfectly clear from the interior, will pick up the changing daylight in a way not dissimilar from his beloved white.

antinimby May 19, 2016 3:56 PM
Because we don't have enough monotonous black glass boxes in Manhattan already.

:hell:

tokilamockingbrd May 19, 2016 8:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 7447081)
Because we don't have enough monotonous black glass boxes in Manhattan already.

:hell:
if you look carefully you can see a gray bar in the middle. So not completely monotonous :happybirthday:

scalziand May 19, 2016 10:58 PM
Gotta match the ones going up on the west side I guess.

NYguy May 20, 2016 2:55 AM
I actually like black "boxes". And I don't think we have enough, certainly not prominently enough on the skyline.


Quote:
But Mr. Solow says he’ll be waiting for this project to wrap up before making any final decisions.

Those would include, presumably, whether Mr. Meier would be going back to black for the other buildings.

We'll just have to wait and see how that could turn out.

NYguy May 20, 2016 3:42 AM
Place it here...


Mr.10G

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NYguy Jun 1, 2016 4:04 AM
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...re-id536216802


http://www.e-architect.co.uk/wp-cont...er-x240516.jpg

chris08876 Jun 12, 2016 11:04 AM
Under Contruction

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t5...NTgyOQ%3D%3D.2
Credit: https://www.instagram.com/p/BGfEi_IO...rnarchitecture

chris08876 Jun 29, 2016 12:34 AM
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chris08876 Oct 23, 2016 2:54 PM
Under Construction

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Credit: Tectonic

yankeesfan1000 Oct 30, 2016 4:15 PM
It may be hidden behind a tree, but a crane is on site :

http://i.imgur.com/IdeqBoWh.jpg

Crawford Oct 30, 2016 4:25 PM
I'm really pissed the East Side NIMBYs shortened these towers. It would have been nice to have 800-900 ft. Richard Meier towers.

yankeesfan1000 Oct 30, 2016 5:20 PM
^ Were the towers on the huge lot across the street shortened as well? I don't remember reading that, but maybe I missed it.

I'm all for community involvement and input, but the city desperately needs housing, this is Midtown, and this lot including the one across the street, are enormous.

NYguy Nov 7, 2016 9:03 PM
http://www.dezeen.com/2016/11/07/ric...iver-new-york/



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mousquet Nov 7, 2016 9:23 PM
2nd rendering is looking quite a bit Canadian or Fr, with our sort of balcony fetish.

Not saying it would be anything bad, it shows some interest in the outside somehome. But a narrow individual balcony is nothing like a shared rooftop. Actual larger terraces on top of apartments are easily the best.

I personally like plain glass curtains better, like to the 1st rendering.

NYguy Nov 8, 2016 4:42 PM
http://www.dezeen.com/2016/11/07/ric...iver-new-york/


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photoLith Nov 8, 2016 6:32 PM
Pretty boring building unfortunately.

NOPA Nov 13, 2016 2:05 PM
Pretty sure there isn't going to be a park on the former con edison plant right?

chris08876 Nov 13, 2016 3:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOPA (Post 7621414)
Pretty sure there isn't going to be a park on the former con edison plant right?
I heard that didn't manifest as of yet. They wanted to convert some old substations to park land I believe. I might be thinking in Queens though, across the river from this site. The Con-Ed plant on 59th Street is still active. I was there a couple of weeks ago for a meeting. Word of the wise, never wear the white hat at a con-ed site. They don't like that. A white hat is royalty at con-ed, and if your with another company, wear a different hat even if your management, and not a blue hard hat either!

PeterQM Dec 2, 2016 8:17 PM
Richard Meier’s first NYC skyscraper starts its climb above street level in Turtle Bay
December 2, 2016

Quote:
Richard Meier’s 685 First Avenue–the starchitect’s largest and tallest building in the city to date–has begun its above-ground ascent, reports CityRealty. The 42-story, 460-foot-tall slab tower is located along the East River at 40th Street, just south of the United Nations, and has gained attention for its dark glass facade, a noticeable shift from Meier’s signature beige aesthetic. Its 408 rentals and 148 condominiums are expected to be completed by early 2019, and now that construction is “craned and above street level,” the project is well on its way.
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More info and images in the post here.

Michagain Dec 3, 2016 12:57 AM
Very mediocre exterior design and very gloomy. Gloomy in a weird, shiny way.

Busy Bee Dec 3, 2016 2:18 AM
A little gloomy goes a long way.

mrnyc Dec 3, 2016 3:05 AM
this bldg is a dud

artspook Dec 3, 2016 6:46 AM
speaking of "Gloomy", Michagain . .
big, bad, mean, & "Gloomy", . . could be very cool . . .
but 685 First Ave. is not that . .
this slick, boring, mid-height glass box, . .
even though it's black, . . isn't dynamic enough to be "gloomy" . .

there are probably some tall, awesome Richard Meier skyscrapers
somewhere . . but offhand, I can't think of any . . . anybody ? . .
the above article mentioned "Meier’s signature beige aesthetic" . .
I thought his signature aesthetic was White White . .

I wish the UN would build a taller box to the South . .
one complementing the Secretariat box . .
one of the few boxes in town, along with Trump World Tower Box . .
that "work" really well in the skyline . .

hotwheels Dec 13, 2016 7:33 PM
Renderings Capture Modernist Elegance of Richard Meier's Tallest NYC Tower
Quote:
A new round of renderings for the 42-storey 685 First Avenue development has been released to coincide with the start of construction, depicting a refined elegance courtesy of East River Partners and Richard Meier & Partners Architects. A leader in clean Modernist design, the 140-metre (460-foot) tower will be the practice's tallest in New York City.

chris08876 Jan 15, 2017 3:45 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwrxl6lWIAAaMp9.jpg
Credit: Richard Meier & Partners Architects

Quote:
The 685 First Avenue site is a 32,365 SF parcel located between East 39th and East 40th Streets on First Avenue in New York City south of the United Nations Headquarters along the East River, a prominent location in Manhattan. The 42-story, 460-foot high residential tower will provide 556 rental and condominium apartments and will feature panoramic views of the New York City riverfront. Minimalistic in form, great consideration is given to the materiality, lightness, transparency and order of this predominantly glass building. The idea of ‘façade as skin,’ a taut curtain wall incised with modular subdivisions is articulated with selective metal panel elements in the form of balconies, canopies and corners. A distinguishing feature is an architectural cut-out at the 27th and 28th floors, visible from across the East River delineating the program subdivision and in dialogue with the neighboring context buildings. The singular form of 685 First Avenue is borne of a desire to create an iconic building unique to Midtown Manhattan and the city of New York. The project reflects an innovative and timeless design that contributes to the history and influence of the city’s landmark buildings. Iconic, transparent and minimal in expression, its style brings the open-layout feel of converted downtown industrial spaces uptown. It will be the first all-black glass building and the tallest tower in New York City designed by Richard Meier & Partners Architects in collaboration with East River Realty Development LLC. At street level, the project is designed to promote urban activity by providing retail space along First Avenue and a grand residential lobby shared by all residents. The expansive glazing of the double-height lobby has a direct visual and physical connection with the surrounding context, the future public park and the East River. The light colored materials of this space rely on principles of light, order and geometry to create a modern and open space.

JSsocal Jan 15, 2017 4:14 AM
Talk about the one part of the city with plenty of black glass boxes already.. this is where Richard Meier decides to ditch his signature white?

tdawg Jan 15, 2017 2:44 PM
The East Side seems to bring out the worst in our starchitects. See Norman Foster's hideous residential tower by the UN.

chris08876 Jan 16, 2017 5:21 PM
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chris08876 Feb 5, 2017 2:08 PM
A filler nonetheless. At 459 ft, will be barely noticeable. Only thing this has going for it is being near the water.

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Credit: JC_Heiights

NYguy Feb 19, 2017 1:57 PM
Car Los

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NYguy Feb 21, 2017 1:49 PM
https://therealdeal.com/issues_artic...the-dark-side/

Meier turns to the dark side
A change of palette brings new subtleties to the architect’s work

February 01, 2017
By James Gardner


Quote:
.....The 42-story tower has already started to rise on a small parcel just west of Solow’s prize land holding, a six-acre plot between East 38th and East 41st streets on First Avenue. Solow is seeking to build five buildings in all, with four residential buildings and an office tower designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill. In addition, there will be a small park, immediately to the east of 685 First Avenue, that is being designed by James Corner Field Operations.

As yet, only 685 First Avenue has been commissioned, and it remains to be seen whether the three other residential towers will also be designed by Richard Meier & Partners. The building has already risen to the fourth floor, and by the end of the year, according to Meier’s firm, the structural work should be finished and the glass panels of the curtain wall will start to go up. Completion is expected by the end of 2018 or beginning of 2019.

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The great test that Meier faces with his design for 685 First Avenue is the vivid possibility that it will look like an office building. But such is the delicacy and warmth of the details that this development feels completely domestic rather than corporate. This is late modernism, or indeed, neo-modernism at its most inviting. It has learned from the mistakes of modernism the first time around, and it is determined not to repeat them.

For now, of course, we have only the renderings to go by. And ultimately, no description, no rendering or photograph can tell you what you need to know in assessing the finished product. Whether the project bears out its considerable promise we shall not know for a few more years, but there is abundant reason to be optimistic. I, for one, would venture to predict that 685 First Avenue will be one of the best buildings in New York, and in Meier’s portfolio.

Hudson11 Feb 21, 2017 9:44 PM
nice. I hope this design for "708 First" is back on the table. Its a shame the NIMBYs shortened it.

https://www.6sqft.com/richard-meier-...south-complex/

Quote:
800-foot office tower once envisioned at 708 First Avenue. Due to community opposition, upon approval the tower, along with all others, was scaled down in height. Courtesy Skidmore Owings & Merrill (SOM).
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chris08876 Feb 25, 2017 3:32 PM
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chris08876 Mar 18, 2017 8:12 PM
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