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thmx Apr 22, 2015 4:36 AM

[Dundas] The Centurian 2 | ? | 9 fl | Under Construction
 
http://i.imgur.com/5Obb08A.jpg
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Info:

- Located at 71 Main Street, Dundas
- 73 residential units
- 60 parking spaces split between one underground level and some ground level parking spaces behind the building

ScreamingViking Apr 22, 2015 4:58 AM

Nice. Wasn't there some debate over development on this lot a few years back?

There's quite a variety of urban forms between the Valley Town's escarpment walls. And you can visit most of it on foot in an afternoon.

thmx May 13, 2015 3:21 AM

New HQ renderings:

http://i.imgur.com/o8ulBS7.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/cWDRm4J.jpg
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Resource Downloads:

- Plans for Centurian
- Notice of Complete Application
- Centurian Parking Report
- Centurian Planning Justification Report
- Centurian Archaeology Report
- Centurian Urban Design Brief

thmx Nov 14, 2015 12:32 AM

@UrbnSoHamilton - #CenturionDundas Public Meeting set for Nov 17! Here is a link to the notice and more info - http://bit.ly/1N1AndB

http://i.imgur.com/zUSaZZK.jpg

thmx Nov 14, 2015 12:42 AM

New larger rendering...

http://i.imgur.com/C2p9weg.jpg
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thistleclub Jan 18, 2016 3:55 PM

Five Dundas residents appeal 71 Main St. approval
(Dundas Star, Craig Campbell, Jan 14 2015)

Nine appeals were filed Tuesday of the Hamilton city council decision to approve amendments for a nine-storey building at 71 Main St. in Dundas.

Tuesday night marked the end of a 20-day appeal period. Justin Lewis of the Dundas Preservation Project said Monday he would be filing an appeal on behalf of the neighbours the next day. Another appeal, from a broader Dundas perspective, was also anticipated by neighbours Monday evening.

But by early Tuesday afternoon, the City of Hamilton clerk’s office confirmed it had already received five appeals of the 71 Main St. decision.

Appeals from local residents Art Samson, Peggy Lewis and Scott Munro had been received by the city clerk by Noon on Tuesday.

By the Midnight deadline, four more appeals were filed by two additional individuals to bring the total number of appeals up to nine. The two additional appeals came from Greg Lawson and Justin Lewis.



Read it in full here.

Hawrylyshyn Jan 18, 2016 5:29 PM

Small town, small minds. They need to learn to accept change here (Opinion from a dundas resident)

davidcappi Jan 18, 2016 5:35 PM

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Small town, small minds. They need to learn to accept change here (Opinion from a dundas resident)
I went to Highland for part of my highschool career, and it always amazed me at how backwards Dundas people can be in regards to density and growth. It's sad to say, but Dundas isn't really a dinky town anymore, and should stop acting like it. Also let's not pretend Dundas hasn't allowed tons of low rise low density cookie cutter housing to go up in it's outskirts.

NortheastWind Jan 18, 2016 6:11 PM

I think it's great infill. Keeps with the Provinces goal of higher density growth.

realcity Jan 18, 2016 7:42 PM

oooo nine stories. better call the NIMBY police.

Dr Awesomesauce Jan 18, 2016 11:50 PM

Maybe they just think it's ugly...

Hawrylyshyn Jan 19, 2016 3:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Awesomesauce (Post 7303966)
Maybe they just think it's ugly...

Nope. They don't want anything built in that "park"

thistleclub Apr 15, 2016 11:09 PM

Controversial Dundas development gets OMB date
(Dundas Star, Craig Campbell, Apr 14 2016)

According to the president of Effort Trust, the company preparing to battle several Ontario Municipal Board appeals of a nine-storey residential development in Dundas, proposed inclusionary zoning could mean relaxed development rules in return for larger developments that include “affordable” units.

“One could only imagine the horror in Dundas if/when that were to become practice in Greater Hamilton(!),” Horwood stated in an email to the Dundas Star News.

Effort Trust’s application for the nine-storey building at 71 Main St. was approved by city council in December by a nine to six vote, then appealed to the OMB by five different residents, for a total of nine appeals.

A pre-hearing date has been scheduled for Monday, August 15. The pre-hearing is scheduled to take place at Dundas Town Hall in the upstairs auditorium – directly across the street from the site of the proposed development.

Horwood said the company is moving ahead with planning for the development at 71 Main St., including an additional traffic study Effort Trust agreed to conduct.

“And our waiting list of renters is growing as people struggle to find rental options in this community,” Horwood said.

There are currently at least seven non-profit affordable housing buildings, with more than 263 units, in Dundas. Four of the buildings are operated by CityHousing Hamilton and were originally built under the former Town of Dundas.

The province recently announced a plan to consult with municipalities, the public and developers on the possibility of creating legislation that would allow cities to have “inclusionary zoning”, where developers could be required to set aside a certain percentage of new residential units for low or moderate income households.

thistleclub Mar 11, 2017 10:44 PM

Oh, Dundas. Don't ever change.

July 5, 2013:

Business representative Phyllis Kraemer said the issues with design reminded her of the early concern of a modern Starbucks in the middle of historic downtown Dundas — which she believes turned out to look good and was an improved use of the property.

"I don't mind modern structures in the middle of older. It's light, it's not heavy," Kraemer said. "I kind of think it's going to happen. And I kind of like how it looks."


Mar 10, 2017:

The Ontario Municipal Board appeal of a proposed nine-storey residential building at 71 Main St. in Dundas is a community-wide issue - and should be financially supported by more than just a few Dundasians, say a couple of active local residents.

Art Samson and Phyllis Kraemer are organizing a community "walk" on Saturday, March 25 for volunteers to canvass door-to-door to assist in raising funds - estimated between $60,000 and $80,000 - for the appeal, which includes paying a lawyer and planner. Two of the participants in the upcoming appeal of the zoning and official plan amendments approved by Hamilton city council - Greg Lawson and Scott Munro - are represented by lawyer Michael Connell and can call expert witnesses.

Samson and Kraemer, both well-known local residents, say the entire community should share in the financial support of this appeal. They believe changing the zoning and official plan rules to permit a building they don't think fits into the area would set a dangerous precedent across the community.

Dr Awesomesauce Mar 12, 2017 1:17 AM

Art Samson was my high school principal. He must be a thousand.

I have no real opinion on this project. It looks kinda $hitty. It probably could be made to fit into the street a little better, though that stretch of Main is pretty messy so I'm not sure that's even possible.

Just try be more constructive, Art...

ScreamingViking Mar 12, 2017 7:57 AM

I wonder what their script will be as they canvas for money. Maybe something like "For just the cost of a cup of coffee, you can help save Dundas from the suffering that these developers and profiteers will bring to our community. Please, think of your family... your children... your children's children..."

Nords Jul 23, 2019 4:49 PM

Just saw today that the LPAT/OMB decision for this came out back in January (2019). It basically approved it. I think this was one where the city approved it and then neighbors appealed it.

http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/e-decisions...an-17-2019.pdf

Hawrylyshyn Jul 2, 2022 5:46 PM

Construction/site prep has started here --

Hawrylyshyn Nov 10, 2022 11:02 PM

Crane is up! (Sorry, couldn't grab a pic)

johnnyhamont Nov 11, 2022 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawrylyshyn (Post 9787562)
Crane is up! (Sorry, couldn't grab a pic)

Dang, when's the last time there was a crane in Dundas?

catcher_of_cats Nov 15, 2022 11:43 PM

Even though the crane is up the excavation close to the sidewalk is still in progress.

Hawrylyshyn Nov 19, 2022 6:06 PM

Crane today:
https://i.imgur.com/wkQhPEP.jpg

Hawrylyshyn Jul 18, 2023 12:33 AM

Drove by today and this looks like ass so far. Unless I'm mistaken and it's some sort of base layer being applied first, it looks like the first couple of floors are shitty white/black stucco panels like we've seen downtown recently.

ScreamingViking Jul 18, 2023 4:38 AM

Has the final design changed? Not that it would be surprising, given the 8+ years that have passed since the first renders shared here.

May 2015 (same as April of that year):
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Originally Posted by thomax (Post 7025451)

November 2015:
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Originally Posted by thomax (Post 7234871)
New larger rendering...

http://i.imgur.com/C2p9weg.jpg
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Hawrylyshyn Jul 18, 2023 12:03 PM

The design of the first two floors looks the same so far --eg. that large space on the bottom right, but the material does not match that faux tile look at all (again, unless it's something that the faux tile will be added to after).

catcher_of_cats Jul 18, 2023 12:44 PM

So far this is shaping up to be the most hideous new build in quite some time. It has a jail look to it and makes the Centurian One beside it look gorgeous. It is nothing like the old render at all with terrible street presence and acts like a giant middle finger to the heritage old town hall directly across the street.

thmx Jul 18, 2023 4:35 PM

I think these are the most recent renderings:

https://i.imgur.com/8EL1sal.jpg
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https://i.imgur.com/E8rH5sh.jpg
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https://i.imgur.com/J579uXT.jpg
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Hawrylyshyn Jul 18, 2023 4:41 PM

That matches what's being constructed :cheers: (unfortunately)

ohhimark Jul 19, 2023 4:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawrylyshyn (Post 9994194)
That matches what's being constructed :cheers: (unfortunately)


It looks old already. Too bad they changed it so much.

ScreamingViking Jul 19, 2023 5:46 AM

When did this get sold to Vranich? ;)

craftbeerdad Jul 19, 2023 2:58 PM

They bought Vranich's left over odds and sods grey panel blowout sale!

How did Dundas allow this? Yikes.

TheHonestMaple Jul 19, 2023 3:17 PM

Can confirm, this thing is hideous in real life. Looks like another horrible Hamilton Stubbe's job.

SteelTown Jul 19, 2023 8:24 PM

Things are moving quickly on the Centurion #Passivehouse apartments! The 9-storey development is constructed using #totalprecast panels and preinstalled windows

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1a5oiGW...jpg&name=large
https://twitter.com/dpaiarchitects

Hawrylyshyn Aug 12, 2023 1:14 PM

Photos taken by me yesterday --

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

Hawrylyshyn Dec 14, 2023 7:58 PM

Crane came down yesterday


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