Future Canadian Rapid Transit Maps
 

There is a lot of interrest in this forum about two things, skyscrapers and transit projects which it why I found it surprising that there is no future canadian transit maps like there is a future skyline thread so I thought I would start one with some of the ones I know.

Ottawa:

Here is Ottawa's current O-train line:
http://www.cat-bus.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/o-trainOverview.png

What the light metro system will look like in 2018 when the new confederation line is complete:
http://wpmedia.ottawacitizen.com/2014/09...me-lrt-mapmap-courtesy-oc-tra.jpg?w=1000

And this is the approved system expansion for 2023:
http://i.cbc.ca/1.1931205.1381327041!/fi...9_620/transportation-master-plan-map.jpg

Edmonton:

This is the map of Edmonton's current LRT system:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/EdmontonLRT.png

The planned and under construction expansions with the metro and valley lines:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...on_LRT.png/786px-Future_Edmonton_LRT.png

And the vision of the system in 2040 with the festival and energy lines:
http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1...gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpeg

Calgary:

Here is the current C-train system:
http://canadianlatinonewspaper.com/web/w.../2012/12/CT-Line-Map-Aug-25-2014-web.gif

And the proposed green line expansion:
http://postmediacalgaryherald2.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/north_south_new.jpg

Vancouver:

Here is the map of Vancouver's Skytrain system where the new evergreen line (2016) is indicated.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co.../800px-Vancouver_Transit_Network_Map.png

Montreal:

Here is the metro system:
http://www.stm.info/sites/all/modules/features/stm_metro/theme/images/map-interactive.gif

And the vision 2020 extension of the metro:
http://blogues.lapresse.ca/edito/files/2011/05/carte21.jpg

Toronto:

Here is Toronto's subway system:
http://mxiii.cms.ccue.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ttc-subway-map.gif

And this is the TTC's future transit map:
http://www.blogto.com/upload/2013/10/20131028-TTC-Map7-Alt.jpg

I'll try to keep track of this thread and keep it updated. Tell me if there are any changes you want done to the post.

Newer subway maps are starting to include the Airport Rocket bus in response to the UPX coming out:

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2014/12/20141212-ttc-map.jpg
http://www.blogto.com/city/2014/12/the_ttc_wants_you_to_know_about_its_airport_bus/

That might confuse tourists who think the UPX doesn't exist and take the 192 when they would have wanted UPX... unless they add UPX to the map too.

Here is Hamilton's vision for transit over the next 25 years:

http://www.hamiltonrapidtransit.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/BLAST-MAP2.jpg (from hamiltonrapidtransit.ca)

The green (B-Line) is an existing BRT-Lite line from Eastgate to University Plaza. If the imminent LRT project gets green lighted (looking more and more doubtful all the time), it would be converted to LRT from Eastgate to McMaster University.

The blue (A-Line) route is also an existing semi-express route from the waterfront to the Hamilton Airport. The plan is to also convert this to either full BRT or LRT as a priority project. The rest of the lines (L, S, T) are farther into the future and could either end up being BRT or LRT. Unfortunately Hamilton has been seriously dragging their feet on the whole thing over the last few years and it's looking doubtful that we'll even see an LRT B-Line at this point. The last council and mayor kinda killed the momentum and placed a lot of doubt.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...on_LRT.png/786px-Future_Edmonton_LRT.png

These are the lines and stations that are approved in Edmonton.

I got my edmonton LRT maps from the 4lrt.com website as opposed to wikipedia. I like that they show the system from the same perspective making for easy comparison.

The TTC's actual map with all existing projects completed:


http://www.blogto.com/upload/2013/10/20131028-TTC-Map7-Alt.jpg

Those maps are incorrect though. There are 5 non-existent stations labelled on the existing stations map.

Cool thread idea!

I'm psyched about the Confederation line, but God, I hope we don't go with red and green - it looks very bleh imo. And why indicate which stations are underground? What does it matter to someone riding from Blair to Lyon if Lyon is underground? They don't even indicate that St.Laurent is underground.

It would be miles more helpful to indicate things that actually matter like frequency, travel time and bus connections.

Thanks for telling me, I have changed the maps

Thanks, I have made the change.

UPX is run by Metrolinx not TTC, whereas the 192 Rocket is. So that's probably why one but not the other is on the map.

That looks a lot better than the current one, but all of the additions are in the suburbs, and downtown is still left incredibly underserved.

Good thread. I doubt i'll still be in Ottawa in 2018 but the Confederation Line is going to be so massive to have, particularly in the winter.

I like how Edmonton is looking far into the future, even officially naming lines that haven't been approved yet. I wish we could have this sort of insight into the future transit systems of other cities, however these plans likely wouldn't survive many elections; especially in cities like Ottawa which cancels more projects than it builds.

To be fair to Ottawa, the only project we did cancel was the NS LRT project with a downtown tram as the backbone of our transit system, which was ridiculous to begin with. As much as it did put us back (a little less than a decade ― NS LRT was to be completed in 2009), in retrospect, Phase 1 and Phase 2 really justify cancelling NSLRT.

Now we've got to hope that a future Phase 3 will concentrate less on the suburbs and more on improving the often dismal inner-city travel (mostly on Bank St. And Rideau St.).

The closest thing we have to a phase 3 plan are the NCC's transit goals which do again focus more on the suburbs since most of the transit use comes from there I guess, although it would be great to have the Bank street subway.

http://i60.tinypic.com/27xf5zr.png

I highly doubt that. The UPX is very visible at the airport and metrolinx has spared no expense promoting it. Meanwhile I still occasionally have a hard time getting to where it is I need to go to grab the airport bus after coming off a flight, though that could just be the jet lag and the 2-3 wait at customs. It's basically at the very bottom corner of the terminal in a dimly lit area with poor signage.

So if Hamilton doesn't follow through with all the lines it will end up with something kinda BLA ?

That TTC map is outdated, it doesn't have the Scarborough subway on it.

http://proposmontreal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/metro.jpg

Pie-IX will have a BRT with 70k ppd. From Laval to Metro Pie-IX

^ HA wtf is that? A dozen new lines to nowhere? With stations every 5 metres?

It is also a shortsighted name in the sense that if they wish to expand the system in the future would it become BLASTER?


The map I have up there matches the one on the TTC website:
https://www.ttc.ca/Subway/interactive_map/interactive_map.jsp#

Isn't the Scarborough subway the blue line?

Here's part of Halifax's user-friendly bus system:

http://www.thecoast.ca/imager/a-kaleidos...original/4416207/014c/city_feature1b.jpg
Source

it's my mistake, bus stops llol

No, it's the express bus network (frequent + limited-stop). Montreal is a great example of a city with a good frequent network but where the branding is nonexistent. We'd do better to highlight bus lines with 5-10 minute frequencies than to have well-indicated commuter train lines which only pass 6 times a day. Jarett Walker talks a lot about issues with mapping.

Montrealers know their bus network very well. The STM bus ridership is almost at 1 million trips per weekday. 1M trips for a population of 2M is excellent.

How is this any different than what exists now?

I know - I'm one of them! ;)

I don't mean that the STM has no branding - I think it has one of the best (if not the best) branding amongst Canadian transit systems. I mean frequent network branding. If you look on a map, you'll have the express and rush hour buses indicated in bright red, but visually, there's no way to tell the Parc 80 from the Barclay 160 even though one of them runs every 5-10 minutes throughout the day and the other passes every half hour on a good day.

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr154/oxalicman/STM025.jpg

http://www.stm.info/fr/infos/reseaux/bus/reseau-de-nuit

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St. Albert's extension of the Edmonton LRT

http://metronewsca.files.wordpress.com/2...02-at-11-52-26-am.png?w=618&h=408&crop=1

Waterloo Region ION Map
 

Pull an Ottawa and change the naming convention? (O-train is becoming the Trillium Line with the whole system being renamed the O-train I believe.)

I've seen this before and I just don't understand it. The station locations just really bug me. I don't understand sprawly cities' habits of building rapid transit stations at the very edge of development. First of all, you have only one side you can use for catchment (at first) because the northern half is all farmland. Second of all, it just encourages more sprawl. Isn't the point of rapid transit to allow dense, urban communities to develop?

From an outsider's perspective, the logical station locations would have been:
Gervais/Hebert
Sir Winston Churchill
McKenney/Bellerose
Giroux/Boudreau

The spacing between all those streets is perfect: 1.6 km, allowing the 10 minute walking radii to touch, but not overlap, maximizing speed while maintaing convenience. Plus they're all major cross streets allowing for convenient feeder bus service, creating even more opportunities for urban corridors.

Again, this is just from looking at the city on google maps, but the station locations in the plan completely surprised me when I first saw it. Maybe sprawlier cities have different goals when it comes to rapid transit, but the whole vision just seems strange to me.

Why no extension to the west end in Montreal?

Also an east-west line along the northern part of the island (say, along the Henri-Bourassa corridor) might be worth looking into?

Not enough population density.

the West End is not dense enough, they will probably get a LRT in the future.

Henri-Bourassa will get a SRB, not a Metro Line.

[QUOTE=FFX-ME;6859698]The closest thing we have to a phase 3 plan are the NCC's transit goals which do again focus more on the suburbs since most of the transit use comes from there I guess, although it would be great to have the Bank street subway.

^^^YES. I thought I was the only one fantasizing about a Bank street subway (or O'train LRT whatever..underground rapid transit of sorts). I've been out of the Ottawa loop for a few years but .. was this not part of the discussion when they planned the Landsdowne redevelopment? It seems like a bit of a critical connection.

Projet Montréal under Bergeron had proposed to extend the blue line by 4 stops to Montreal West. This extension is worthwhile, IMO, as the NDG/Cote-Saint-Luc/Hampstead area is a bit underserved.
http://i62.tinypic.com/289fv4o.jpg
Source of image (dead link): http://www.projetmontreal.org/files/documents/2009_10_08_projetmontreal_document_1255018830_fr.pdf

Further than that doesn't make sense though.

Neither does extending it further into Longueuil along Roland-Therrien... It would be a waste of money to extend the Yellow line further than Old Longueuil.

The scarborough subway will replace the Blue line with an extension of the green line, on a slightly different alignment.

the ttc hasn't updated the "future map" as it was created to highlight their reasoning behind changing the line names from "Bloor-danforth", "Yonge-University-Spadina", etc. to Line 1, Line 2, etc, as the amount of TTC lines was set to go from 4 to 7 in the coming years.

Meh... NDG has the density, CSL it depends but Hampstead, fuck no.

Not gonna lie, this vision for 2040 is pretty boss. Is it all grade separated?

RE: Ottawa's Bank street route being bandied around.

Is a tunnel going down bank street part of the official plan? Liking the looks of Edmonton's future plans btw.

Real kewl thread idea too btw.

Not at all. Edmonton's inept planning department insists on keeping everything at grade, including through the middle of some of the city's busiest intersections.

Edmonton's idea of transit planning is to run a streetcar style line out to the further suburbs, instead of commuter like LRT like it has on the original line. Frequent stops, slower speeds, much less protected/segregate ROW
Most of the current planning ignores all the previous planning and ROWs set aside for LRT, instead choosing more costly ways.

I have no problems with streetcars either - but they should be used in loops in the central areas/urban areas, not out to the suburbs. Streetcars shouldn't be used for suburban commuter style rail

I don't necessarily disagree with you, feepa, but it is interesting that most (if not all) of Toronto's streetcar lines were originally created to connect suburbs to the core. The suburbs were just a whole lot more urban back then.

Wow, that's yucky. Sorry to hear that! I think that an important concept that politicians in Canada don't understand is that there is a huge difference between grade-separated LRT and grade-integrated LRT. To me, it makes the difference of the LRT system being a rapid transit system or not.

I completely agree, but this is common these days (see Calgary also). And make no mistake, this isn't 'so the stations are better integrated with communities' or some other BS. It is because it is cheaper.

B and A Line are both part of Metrolinx short term projects. After that something like 20 years away would be the T line.

We need a Vancouver map that also shows the planned Millennium Line extension to UBC (in two phases), and the three LRT corridors in Surrey.

What do you mean by existing projects? underconstruction? Because the Scarberian express is not u/c nor is the finch line, nor Shepard West extension. I will be surprised if either of those is even settled upon in the next decade!