SAN ANTONIO │ CPS Headquarters Redevelopment Thread | U/C
The story is behind a paywall, but here's the quote pertaining to the skyline.
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This needs to happen.:yes:
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I can see this happening.
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I'm hearing the city, including CPS, want it to be in the 600-700 ft range. There are whispers this could go near the Weston with Graham building residential next to or very near it.
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600-700ft?! That'd be amazing! I hope it's closer to 700. I hope the design is bad.
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As much as I'd love to see this actually get built, I'll believe it when I see it. I'm not getting my hopes up too high
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Oh gosh. Got too excited, I meant ISN'T* |
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I'd love to see it happen, but we have a lot of work to do to on those Geekdom startups to fill that much space. |
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I see the location is rumored to be near the Weston Center; does anyone have any guesses as to where, specifically, this building will end up? I know it's too early to know anything, but it's fun to speculate. |
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I think part of the problem with the vacancy rate, is just the sheer age of some of the existing space in downtown. I believe Weston is one of/if not the newest office tower in downtown and that was in 88 or 89? You have to wonder just how out of date some of the infrastructure in terms of data, electrical, water, sewer, conveying equipment etc. is in these buildings. When companies move into a space, they don't want to be dealing with outdated real estate that could hinder their ability to grow.
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There is some demand for Class A space; One Riverwalk (caddy-corner to the eyesore) is only at 65% but I remember a while back they were upgrading and renovating the ground floor and "restaurant" at River level. Wouldn't have gone through renovation if they didn't feel demand would be there; even after the downturn in '07. From Apr. 2012 http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni....html?page=all Quote:
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Any idea of what this building will look like?
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just to throw this out there....
Submitted for conversation...Wouldn't it be better to have two 400'ers than one 800'? Please don't get me wrong, things are finally starting to happen here and I don't want our downtown to look like OKC with a couple kinda tall buildings and one really tall. A more extreme example would be if that 800'er gets built in Midland. Just sticking my neck out there....:shrug:
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However, I don't think that's what we'd be looking at here. According to Emporis, the Weston Centre is 557' at the top and the Tower is 622' at the architectural height or 730' at the tip of the antenna. The CPS Energy building would fall somewhere in that 557'-730' range so it wouldn't be alone in that height range. It could look more like the Comcast Center in Philly, which looks like a natural growth in the skyline. I think more important than height is the fact that there would just be a lot of empty space around it on the northwest end of downtown. Hopefully Weston Urban plans some taller apartments to go with the office building. |
The 557 foot "tip" height for the Weston Centre is for the antennas. That number came from an antenna registration website. And I'm not even sure the antennas are that tall since they are clearly not taller than the flagpole on the Tower Life Building which is supposed to be around 100 feet. I do know the building is taller than the supposed 444 foot height that we'd always seen. The most accurate height I've been able to find for it is 466 feet. I was the main editor for San Antonio at Emporis for 10 years.
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http://en.wikiarquitectura.com/image...tate_Nuves.jpg http://en.wikiarquitectura.com/image...tate_Nuves.jpg |
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I say anything that will look good as coming up from the south or goin down from the north:notacrook:.
And of course something in that 950 range.Jk 550 or 600 would be nice though.:rolleyes: But it will most likely be 400 to 450 at best.:uhh: |
Why don't builders try to build up northwest of downtown instead of the convention center/Hemisphere area.
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San Antonio | CPS Headquarters | N/A FLOORS | Proposed
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Oh gosh, the gears are turning.
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Can't wait to hear more. Hopefully it's a good design.
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I cant wait to see this!
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Excited!!! Go San Antonio! :cheers:
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Here's to hoping for something decent. That being said this is San Antonio, so I'm prepared to be let down yet again.
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BTW, I guess there is no new news on this particular project since last May, huh? Mothballed? Dead? If it were in development, we would have heard something by now...it's been, what, nine months?!? |
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CPS hires national real estate firm to help it with headquarters relocation
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"considering buying or leasing another downtown space"
It looks like the key words here are: buying, leasing, space. I'm not saying this would prevent them from building, but it seems like there would be some urgency to get them to vacate if they have prospective buyer. If they don't, then it certainly sounds like relocating to an existing building is not out of the question. The article stated this process would take 12 to 18 months. |
Well in this article, they do express preference for a new building, so hopefully the group will take note.
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Here are some more quotes from the article Alice posted.
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Thanks for posting the other article.
There were some interesting comments made. Why the east side? And the comments about some other company moving to the core; why would you make a generalization like that unless they have some knowledge of that being a possibility? The other comment was the 4 choices: don't relocate, move into an existing building, build your own, or lease a new building. It feels like they are looking for the last option. |
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I did think of the whole economic generator for the east side approach. I was more curious about city owned property; possible sites.
You are right about the speculation. That is all it is at this time since option 1 was "we don't move". So there's not even a proposal (maybe in 12months). I thought there was some property that Zachry was hot to develop at one time on the near east side? That's just speculation:notacrook: |
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By "Option 1" I meant the first he listed, not their first choice. It's obvious they want new digs. |
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CPS Energy secures Cassidy Turley to help identify new HQ site
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Reporter/Project Coordinator- San Antonio Business Journal Jul 1, 2014, 2:43pm CDT Updated: Jul 2, 2014, 9:16am CDT http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...-identify.html |
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On a related noted, the photo they show has the Tower Life Building in it. It's still one of my favorites of all time. Having trouble making it link, but here it is. media.bizj.us/view/img/1667571/6-cps-energy-building-12-20sahubsnfp122013*600xx1500-1000-0-250.jpg |
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20 GROUPS INTERESTED IN CPS ENERGY'S NEW HEADQUARTERS http://energythoughtsummit.com/wp-co...gy-500x184.png Quote:
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CPS new headquarters
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What's the latest? Anyone?
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