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waterloowarrior Sep 25, 2013 3:05 PM

Glebe Parking Garage (170 Second Ave) | 13.m | 4-5 fl | Completed
 
http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/public...e-september-19

Three design options

http://ottawa.ca/sites/ottawa.ca/files/glebe_panels.jpg

http://ottawa.ca/sites/ottawa.ca/files/glebe_wave.jpg

http://ottawa.ca/sites/ottawa.ca/files/glebe_curve.jpg

OTSkyline Sep 25, 2013 4:18 PM

I vote for the first one; "The Panels"

Harley613 Sep 25, 2013 5:04 PM

This is a great spot for a garage! It's on the site of an existing surface lot tucked away behind the Metro. I like the 'Panels' one as well.

http://i.imgur.com/XXdvqYx.jpg

MountainView Sep 25, 2013 10:33 PM

Panels!! Looks way better than the other 2 options. Waves looks like a typical parking garage. (ugly)

J.OT13 Sep 25, 2013 11:32 PM

Yup, panels. It blends in, looking like an infill. That is one fancy garage.

Harley613 Sep 26, 2013 12:30 AM

Would the Glebites have it any other way? They SHOULD relatively mum on this one since it takes cars off their streets...but someone in the 'hood will come up with some kind of zany reason to protest it anyhow.

umbria27 Sep 26, 2013 1:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.OT13 (Post 6279775)
Yup, panels. It blends in, looking like an infill. That is one fancy garage.

I'm sure that was the design goal with that one. It does look like three tall modern infill houses. Nice job.

The others might look better at higher res where the curves are more visible, but I still think this will be better in context.

I doubt there will be any serious objection from the community. Most residents see this as necessary to keep Bank street merchants competitive with Lansdowne. Of course there will always be someone who objects. There always is with any project anywhere. The difference might be that journalists will seek out Glebe complainers as opposed to Stittsville or Orleans complainers. (Shorter drive from the CBC building?) The Glebe is a neighbourhood people love to hate. It's an easy way to draw people to your website and fill up the comments section.

Boxster Sep 26, 2013 8:37 PM

IMO, some glebites probably think that the new parking will attract even more visitors to the area and disturb their rural way of life.

:whistle:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley613 (Post 6279823)
Would the Glebites have it any other way? They SHOULD relatively mum on this one since it takes cars off their streets...but someone in the 'hood will come up with some kind of zany reason to protest it anyhow.


kwoldtimer Sep 26, 2013 9:07 PM

I thought that they've been wanting and expecting this to be built for years now. :shrug:

Harley613 Sep 27, 2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxster (Post 6280834)
IMO, some glebites probably think that the new parking will attract even more visitors to the area and disturb their rural way of life.

:whistle:

More lines at the Farmer's Market interfering with the acquisition of fine Organic veggies could be a problem!

Also this garage had better be GLUTEN FREE!!!!

umbria27 Sep 27, 2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer (Post 6280872)
I thought that they've been wanting and expecting this to be built for years now. :shrug:

They have, but that won't stop people from mocking them as if they had in fact opposed it. On the internet you can be criticised for opinions your critics think you have. Somewhere there is a giant straw man glebite burning down to his birkenstocks.

umbria27 Nov 29, 2013 7:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainView (Post 6279709)
Panels!! Looks way better than the other 2 options. Waves looks like a typical parking garage. (ugly)

Seems the city flouted the collective wisdom of this forum and chose Curves over Panels.

http://ottawa.ca/sites/ottawa.ca/fil..._parking_3.pdf

McC Nov 29, 2013 7:21 PM

They'll rue the day they crossed The Forum.

rocketphish Jan 8, 2014 12:36 AM

Glebe wants new city parking garage, city’s planners say

City public-works department says four-storey structure isn’t needed

By David Reevely, OTTAWA CITIZEN January 7, 2014 6:00 PM


OTTAWA — People in the Glebe support a new multi-storey parking garage the city wants to build on a surface lot it owns behind a grocery store, the city’s planning department says.

City council’s planning committee is due to vote on a rezoning the project needs at a meeting next Tuesday.

“Comments indicated that the proposal is an efficient use of space and will help bring activity to the local economy,” reads the report to the planning committee.

The four-level garage “addresses a need for short-term public parking for the Glebe business area,” the report says. The city’s own public-works department, which is in charge of parking, said last year there is actually no real shortage of it in the district, though there might eventually be depending how the area changes over time and how much car traffic spills over from nearby Lansdowne Park.

Council’s transportation committee voted to build it. The rezoning by the planning committee is the next stage of approval.

According to the report, one resident objected that building a four-storey garage is 1980s-style thinking in a city that is ostensibly discouraging private car use as much as it can (by deliberately eliminating a lot of parking at Lansdowne, for instance) and that if the Glebe needs more parking, property developers should put it underground.

“All modes of transportation must be provided that allow for the wider community to access parts of the city if alternate modes are not available to them,” the planners respond. “It is not realistic to think that people do not use their cars. Having a parking garage is a better use of land than multiple surface parking lots.”

The concrete structure, to be built between Second and Third avenues west of Bank Street, is to have trees planted around it and include “an art treatment” on the parts that face neighbours next door. It’s to have 175 spots for cars and 35 spots for bikes. Coun. David Chernushenko wants to call it a “mobility hub” that supports different kinds of transportation. The city’s planners always call it a parking garage.

[email protected]

ottawacitizen.com/greaterottawa
© Copyright (c) The Ottawa Citizen

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/busines...425/story.html

waterloowarrior Jan 9, 2014 11:55 PM

here is the city staff report
http://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/mtgvi...&itemid=314686

citydwlr Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM

The Sun's Willing posted a tweet from today's mayoral City Address regarding the parking garage:

Quote:

Glebe parking garage design. Coun. McRae asks who's the designer. It's...GENIVAR.
:stunned:

McC Jan 22, 2014 6:06 PM

ew. what are they? like Ottawa's herpes?

rocketphish Jan 22, 2014 6:40 PM

Company being sued for Airport Parkway bridge did design for Glebe parkade

By David Reevely, OTTAWA CITIZEN January 22, 2014 1:04 PM


OTTAWA — The Glebe’s new parkade is to be built to a design by the same company the city is suing over the failed Airport Parkway pedestrian bridge, after city council approved the rezoning the project needs Wednesday.

Genivar, an engineering firm that designed the bridge whose construction the city aborted last summer, is banned from bidding on further city business, but the project was underway before the ban and isn’t included.

The garage is to replace a city-owned surface lot between Second and Third avenues. A study found the Glebe doesn’t have a parking shortage but it might in the future.

The Airport Parkway pedestrian bridge was supposed to be completed in November 2011, but had to be torn down and restarted when the concrete in its signature tower turned out to be faulty. Later, an unorthodox design for the long “stays” that descend from the tower and hold the span in place alarmed the contractor, prompting a redesign.

[email protected]

ottawacitizen.com/greaterottawaGlebe
© Copyright (c) The Ottawa Citizen

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/ot...087/story.html

waterloowarrior Jan 22, 2014 7:46 PM

FYI Genivar has been renamed to WSP Group

waterloowarrior Mar 13, 2014 11:44 PM

appealed to the OMB (lol)
https://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDe...spx?n=PL140189

J.OT13 Mar 13, 2014 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior (Post 6493280)
appealed to the OMB (lol)

No kidding. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

waterloowarrior Mar 26, 2014 9:39 PM

hearing is June 19, 2014... guess they can't make the original timeline

Quote:

Timeline

Council Approval (2012)
Public Meeting – 23 January 2013
Award contract for Prime Consultant - 28 June 2013
Introduction Meeting – BIA / GCA representatives – 11 July 2013
Design Charette – BIA / GCA representatives – 29 July 2013
Public Meeting 2 – 19 September 2013
Concurrent Site Plan and Zoning Application submissions and approvals - September 2013 to February 2014
Tender construction - December 2013
Award Contract to construct the garage - March 2014
Commence Construction - March 2014
Complete Construction - October 2014

mac_junkie1 Mar 27, 2014 2:41 AM

Same company as the Airport Parkway... Does this mean it'll take them 4 years to build the parking garage just to rip it down as soon as its done :shrug: I wouldn't trust those losers with building anything else in the city. I won't be parking my car in there ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior (Post 6513228)
hearing is June 19, 2014... guess they can't make the original timeline


Boxster Mar 27, 2014 2:05 PM

What happened with the Airport Parkway? :???:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac_junkie1 (Post 6513737)
Same company as the Airport Parkway... Does this mean it'll take them 4 years to build the parking garage just to rip it down as soon as its done :shrug: I wouldn't trust those losers with building anything else in the city. I won't be parking my car in there ;)


rocketphish Mar 27, 2014 4:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxster (Post 6514159)
What happened with the Airport Parkway? :???:

I think what Mac_junkie1 meant to imply was "Same company as the Airport Parkway pedestrian bridge"

Boxster Mar 27, 2014 5:34 PM

Now I get it! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketphish (Post 6514431)
I think what Mac_junkie1 meant to imply was "Same company as the Airport Parkway pedestrian bridge"


Capital Shaun Mar 27, 2014 7:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketphish (Post 6514431)
I think what Mac_junkie1 meant to imply was "Same company as the Airport Parkway pedestrian bridge"

Why the hell we we even let that company bid on anything after that fiasco?

Boxster Mar 27, 2014 7:26 PM

Because the company has connections...or because we are just waiting for strike number three.

Ever heard of commission Charbonneau?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capital Shaun (Post 6514765)
Why the hell we we even let that company bid on anything after that fiasco?


Capital Shaun Mar 27, 2014 7:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxster (Post 6514780)
Because the company has connections...or because we are just waiting for strike number three.

Ever heard of commission Charbonneau?

Corruption is always a possibility. Another possibility is that the city has no mechanism to legally blacklist a firm with a poor track record.

J.OT13 Apr 19, 2014 4:04 PM

Wow, with the stadium expanded to 30,000-40,0000 seats for the FIFA Women's World Cup and no extra parking off-site...

Quote:

Glebe parking garage delayed

By Carys Mills, OTTAWA CITIZEN April 18, 2014

OTTAWA — Construction of an eagerly anticipated Glebe parking garage has been delayed by a year.

The four-storey parkade, with 149 spots and more space for bikes, was supposed to be finished in October. But construction has now been delayed and the deadline pushed back to November 2015, said Capital ward Coun. David Chernushenko.

The $9.5-million project’s initial timeline was overly optimistic, he said, and a nearby property owner is also appealing the project to the Ontario Municipal Board.

Chernushenko said the OMB hearing is scheduled for June 19.

“We met with (the resident) on several occasions to try to address his concerns,” Chernushenko said. “It would have meant a complete redesign of the garage.”

He said he hopes the city gets a favourable outcome at the board so the new construction schedule is uninterrupted.

“Regardless of what comes out of this (OMB) process, this was going to be a challenge for us. The city is learning its lessons from other projects that haven’t gone well lately,” such as the Airport Parkway bridge, which is expected to be three years late and $4.7 million over its $6.5-million budget.

A third-party review of the garage project found the six-month construction timeline was too short by at least a few months, he said.

Instead of construction starting this spring and ending in time for Christmas shopping on Bank Street, up to 10 months of work will begin early in 2015 and is expected to finish in time for the next year’s holiday season.

The garage, meant to help ease future congestion from Lansdowne Park, will be built on an existing city parking lot at 170 Second Ave.

Chernushenko said he wanted to ensure either the existing lot or new parkade were available during each holiday season.

He said the extra parking demand is projected rather than current, so a short delay isn’t a big problem. He said he has “mixed emotions“ about the delay.

“On the one hand, we did want it to be up and running when Lansdowne opens,“ he said. “On the other hand, I am much happier with a realistic timeline.“

[email protected]
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/Gl...786/story.html

waterloowarrior Sep 23, 2014 10:39 PM

OMB hearing continues October 22
https://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDe...spx?n=PL140189

ThaLoveDocta Sep 29, 2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.OT13 (Post 6546077)
A third-party review of the garage project found the six-month construction timeline was too short by at least a few months, he said.

Find me the guy who can build, start to finish, a multi-storey poured concrete garage in a cold climate in 6 months, and i'll hire him yesterday.:koko:

waterloowarrior Nov 6, 2014 2:48 AM

Hearing cancelled...file closed. Approved :D
https://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDe...spx?n=PL140189

rocketphish Nov 8, 2014 10:05 PM

Appeal of Glebe parkade plans dropped

David Reevely, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: November 7, 2014, Last Updated: November 7, 2014 7:19 PM EST


A city plan to build a parking garage in the Glebe is going ahead after a neighbour gave up on appealing the project to the Ontario Municipal Board.

The four-storey garage, to replace a surface parking lot between Second and Third avenues near Bank Street, was originally supposed to be finished last month. Instead, the appeal of a rezoning the project needed has pushed the start of construction into next spring, with completion now expected in fall 2015.

The appeal never came to a hearing, which means the grounds for the appeal aren’t public. A planned hearing day in June was postponed and a new one in late October was cancelled.

Coun. David Chernushenko said John Kaczmarek, who owns a rental property next door, had sought a full redesign of the garage but was eventually satisfied with a city promise to erect a fence, re-arrange some ventilation, and let him or his tenants park on a corner of the city’s land.

“It’s all water on the bridge now and we’re delighted we can move forward,” Chernushenko said.

The $9.5-million, 150-space garage isn’t needed yet, according to a city parking study, but the city is building it anyway because it expects the Glebe to have a shortage of parking eventually. City staff had suggested charging different rates for parking on Glebe streets — which tend to be more crowded farther south, emptier at the north end of the neighbourhood — might spread cars out and eliminate the need for the garage, but city councillors rejected the idea.

[email protected]
twitter.com/davidreevely

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...-plans-dropped

S-Man Nov 9, 2014 6:50 PM

The Glebe is a lot like Westboro, in that almost everyone owns a car, but there are constant demands that no one else park near where they're living.

The funny thing is, a lot of those parked cars are owned by people from other neighbourhoods shopping in Westboro and the Glebe, thus keeping the treasured institutions of their 'hood operational.

Jamaican-Phoenix Nov 10, 2014 8:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S-Man (Post 6801269)
The Glebe is a lot like Westboro, in that almost everyone owns a car, but there are constant demands that no one else park near where they're living.

The funny thing is, a lot of those parked cars are owned by people from other neighbourhoods shopping in Westboro and the Glebe, thus keeping the treasured institutions of their 'hood operational.

Shh, you're thinking rationally and looking at the bigger picture. Stop it.

kwoldtimer Nov 10, 2014 3:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S-Man (Post 6801269)
The Glebe is a lot like Westboro, in that almost everyone owns a car, but there are constant demands that no one else park near where they're living.

The funny thing is, a lot of those parked cars are owned by people from other neighbourhoods shopping in Westboro and the Glebe, thus keeping the treasured institutions of their 'hood operational.

Actually, the Glebites I know were anxious to see the garage built and perturbed by the delay.

umbria27 Nov 14, 2014 4:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer (Post 6802015)
Actually, the Glebites I know were anxious to see the garage built and perturbed by the delay.

Shh, you're talking about actual Glebites. The imaginary stereotype is preferred on this board.

waterloowarrior Nov 14, 2014 8:05 PM

Public art for Glebe Parking Garage
http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/public...parking-garage

rocketphish Nov 15, 2014 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior (Post 6807860)
Public art for Glebe Parking Garage
http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/public...parking-garage

Don't miss your chance to complete the Online Survey after viewing the short-listed designs.

S-Man Nov 15, 2014 4:34 AM

Imaginary, huh?

No doubt there are Glebites rooted in reality, and I certainly hope it's a silent-majority kind of thing, but if you have the capacity to read the news in this city, well... let's just say it's not ghosts who are calling the Citizen, the CBC, and the city to complain.

Anyway, off topic.

rocketphish Nov 19, 2014 2:10 AM

Glebe garage to get public art, but which public art?

Peter Simpson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: November 18, 2014, Last Updated: November 18, 2014 4:24 PM EST


Is there a public building that’s more drearily utilitarian than a city parking garage? A bit of original art is just the thing to brighten up such blandness.

Citizens are invited to an open house Nov. 24 to see art proposals for a new parking garage to be built at 170 Second Ave. in the Glebe. There’ll be information on five proposed installations by artists including Karl Ciesluk, Christopher Griffin, Michael Kinghorn, Amy Thompson and the team of Anna Williams and Erin Robertson.

The City of Ottawa has a policy that requires the tiniest sliver of development-project spending to be saved for art, and to give life and character to otherwise be non-descript buildings. The art budget for the Second Avenue parking garage is $43,000, which, as the city’s call to artists notes, includes “all costs required to design, fabricate and install the project.” Anything left over will be actual income for the successful artist(s).

Here’s a quick look at each proposal, in no particular order:


http://wpmedia.ottawacitizen.com/201...mn3.jpg?w=1000

Title: Skid-Blow Out

Artist: Karl Ciesluk

Karl Ciesluk’s series of aluminum plants are installed in the median that runs along King Edward Avenue, though many drivers may have not noticed the tall, thin structures, as one’s focus tends to be on the thoroughfare’s still-horrendous traffic.

For the Glebe garage Ciesluk wants to install two, 16-foot-high metal sculptures that represent in one case a long skid and in the other case a tire blowout. The project will create “a visual connection to the purpose of the building — a place for cars,” Ciesluk wrote in his proposal to the city.

BB opinion: The proposal may lack for subtlety, as there are sure to be plenty of real skid marks in the garage. More critically, there’s nothing about skid marks that says “Glebe.”



https://postmediaottawacitizen2.file...on-column2.jpg

Title: Untitled

Artist: Christopher Griffin

Christopher Griffin noticed the Glebe has four distinct bodies of water — the Rideau Canal, Dow’s Lake, Brown’s Inlet and Patterson Creek — and the garage will have four levels. Griffin is well-known for etching images and shapes into wet stone, and on each level he would cover a large pillar with concrete that is then decorated with petroglyphs. Each column represents one of the four bodies of water. “These waterways will provide the local fish/amphibians and bird sources as subject matter,” Griffin proposes.

BB opinion: The columns, with their ancient-looking petroglyphs, would create a pleasing contrast of materials and architectural styles, and the project is a rich reflection of the neighbourhood.



https://postmediaottawacitizen2.file...on-column5.jpg

Title: The Explorer

Artist: Michael Kinghorn

Michael Kinghorn is a “blacksmith artist,” and his installations at two new fire halls in the city’s south and west ends are engaging abstractions made of scrap metal. For the Glebe garage Kinghorn would create a spaceship, approximately 12 feet tall, from recycled steel, glass and bronze. “The Explorer is a whimsical story of a resourceful astronaut who has travelled far in search of a great place to visit and resupply,” which he does in the Glebe, Kinghorn writes.

BB opinion: Spaceships are fun, but the idea is generic and doesn’t meaningfully relate to the neighbourhood.



https://postmediaottawacitizen2.file...on-column6.jpg

Title: Tributaries

Artist: Amy Thompson

Amy Thompson would make a canvas of the more than 600 square feet of glass that will let light in upon the garage’s stairwells, covering it all in pleasing colours and willowy designs.“The blocks of colour allude to stained glass and the clergy reserve the area was named after,” Thompson writes, “while the weeping willow represents the green spaces and water in the area.”

BB opinion: The dreariest part of a dreary parking garage is the stairwell, so some colour would be welcome. Also, Thompson’s panes would echo artist Adrian Göllner’s coloured-glass facade at the Shenkman Arts Centre in Orleans, and artist Hal Ingberg’s Papa installation in Gatineau, creating a city-wide triptych of coloured glass.



https://postmediaottawacitizen2.file...on-column1.jpg

Title: Way Station

Artists: Erin Roberts and Anna Williams

Robertson’s and Williams’s public-art installations in the city include the bronze border collie herding sheep at Longfields Transit Station, and the bronze fox playfully chasing a ball at the Richcraft Recreation Complex in Kanata.

In the Glebe the pair would install 75 life-sized goldfinches, each uniquely cast in bronze and covered with a golden patina, and each either flying about the garage or landing on bronze branches. “We aim to create an environment with a subtle, contrasting connection between the strength, beauty and function of the building and that of the natural world,” they write.

BB opinion: Goldfinches are plentiful in the neighbourhood in season, and Robertson and Williams create harmonious art that enlivens whatever structure it’s in.


You can see photos of all the proposals online, and vote on which you prefer. See more at ottawacitizen.com/bigbeat.

http://ottawacitizen.com/entertainme...ich-public-art

citydwlr Jan 7, 2015 5:58 PM

A winner has been chosen (Christopher Griffin) for the artwork, according to the Citizen:

Glebe parking garage art to be made by Griffin, city says

https://postmediaottawacitizen2.file...fin-gpg-11.jpg

As it looks now, it's pretty horrendous... This guy also did the Falcon mural on the Bronson-Riverside bridge -- it looks alright. This was probably my least favourite of the selected finalists.

OTSkyline Jan 7, 2015 8:15 PM

Ewww... not impressed.

I also agree it was probably my least favorite proposal... after that alien/spaceship combo outside the garage. But then again the way some Glebites are acting could be defined as "out of this world". :tup:

kwoldtimer Jan 7, 2015 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OTSkyline (Post 6866584)
Ewww... not impressed.

I also agree it was probably my least favorite proposal... after that alien/spaceship combo outside the garage. But then again the way some Glebites are acting could be defined as "out of this world". :tup:

Not sure how it applies in this case. In any event, Griffen is one of theirs.

LarryW Jan 21, 2015 9:21 PM

Looks like they are getting ready to start work on the garage. There's a construction trailer, some fencing and a big "Closed" sign in the parking lot.

rocketphish Feb 3, 2015 1:48 AM

Work starts on city parking garage near Lansdowne

Ottawa Citizen
Published on: February 2, 2015, Last Updated: February 2, 2015 5:32 PM EST


http://wpmedia.ottawacitizen.com/201...lumn.jpg?w=800

Construction has finally started on a municipal garage that will add much-needed parking near Lansdowne Park on Bank Street.

The Glebe Parking Garage had been set to open last October until the City of Ottawa determined that its original timetable was unrealistic and then a neighbour appealed the project to the Ontario Municipal Board.

Now it is expected to open in November.

The garage, being built on an existing 50-space surface lot, will have 150 parking spots and cost a projected $9.5 million — or more than $63,000 per space. However, demand for parking near Lansdowne, which lost its former vast lots in a major refurbishment that added stores and housing to the entertainment and sports complex, should ensure the garage is eventually a municipal money-maker.

The city and contractor “will do everything they can to minimize noise and dust,” the city said in a release, adding: “The support and patience of Glebe residents during construction is appreciated.”

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...near-lansdowne

Urbanarchit Feb 3, 2015 2:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rocketphish (Post 6899407)

Cripes! That thing is hideous. I mean, I'll be glad if I can walk up to the top and get some great shots of downtown and Lansdowne's condos from there, but that thing doesn't look very good.

Capital Shaun Feb 3, 2015 7:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defishel (Post 6899453)
Cripes! That thing is hideous. I mean, I'll be glad if I can walk up to the top and get some great shots of downtown and Lansdowne's condos from there, but that thing doesn't look very good.

It is very bland. And it will probably look like total crap in 30 years after weathering.

Boxster Feb 3, 2015 7:26 PM

"The garage, being built on an existing 50-space surface lot, will have 150 parking spots and cost a projected $9.5 million — or more than $63,000 per space."

I look at it this way. Additional spots created is 100. Cost per new (incremental) spot is $95,000.

Say an optimistic scenario at $10/day x 200 days annual occupancy x 30 years = $60,000. Without any maintenance costs time value of money.

Investment is going to be hard to recover. :(


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