students says his future medical is ruined because of his riot crimes...
 

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no sympathy, glad to see people are still paying the price for their stupid actions during the riot

Exactly. Just because he's a pastor's son does not mean he is exempt from the law. Run into a burning house, and it's likely you'll get scorched, too. He had a choice. He's an adult, and therefore resposible for his actions. No sympathy whatsoever in this case.

I'm generally not a fan of destroying people's lives because they commit a relatively minor crime - especially teenagers - and it scares me how much pleasure some people get out of these harsh punishments (not referring to you SpongeG), but I'm also not going to weep for his medical career.

I read the article but I didn't see where this is going to ruin his future. Does a criminal record not allow you to get into med school? He's not trying to be a police officer...

Anyway, I have no problem with it. This is exactly the kind of thing that should make people think twice before joining a riot. We have far too many example of lax justice in recent years.

He also blames being drunk. I, too, was very drunk that night and briefly walked through the riot area, yet I had no desire whatsoever to participate in what was going on. Funny that.

Was that article supposed to make us feel bad for him? :haha:

Would you feel comfortable with a doctor with a criminal record? Can you imagine the press letting it slide if it was discovered that the head of a major Vancouver hospital, for example, had a criminal record?

There's certain people and professions that society rightly holds to be above corruption. Doctors should definitely be in that group, imo

Sadly I believe it.

A criminal record in of itself will not bar a person from being a licensed doctor in Canada. But it should be disclosed and you should have a good response prepared in terms of explaining what happened and why, lessons you learned, and steps you've taken to ensure it will not be repeated.

Gordon Campbell has a criminal record, doesn't he? He got a pretty good gig for awhile there.

There's a big difference between getting your MD and being the head of VGH for example. I'd blame the board of VGH if they let somebody like that get that far. I don't know what point you're really trying to make.

If my dentist suddenly had a DUI conviction I'd still be a patient of his.

Medical school is notoriously selective on pontential entrants. It's not just grades which matter, but experience, volunteer work and so forth. Having a conviction, for rioting no less, is one of those things which get you passed up for the next person.

Well hey, he has courtroom experience, why not put it to good use?

Of course its harsh, we all lose in this case. Participating in a riot is a minor offence, its drunk mob mentality and the only people that are to blame are the police, the city, and the initial instigators...but all we see is blame being deflected. Personally if I were him though I would argue that being a pastors son and being brain washed his whole life and becoming a total sheep made him more vulnerable to the mob mentality...or something like that.

But anyways I view participation as minor, hell if I was a teenager and drunk down there im fairly certain I would be participating (not instigating)....and I turned out ok I think.

I strongly disagree. Participating in a riot is not a minor offence. If all those participating didn't, it may well have been a minor incident. I find your lax attitude toward it disturbing.

By that reasoning drunk drivers should get a reduced sentence...

WTF dude? Are you serious? Frankly, with that attitude, I'd be inclined to say you didn't turn out OK.

Gordon Campbell does not have a criminal record-impaired driving isn't a criminal offence in Hawaii like it is here.

I always "try" to be a realist. Maybe you can tell me who is to blame by the way? I suppose that this incident as a example was a fault of ALL the people as well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N42jRq_KT-M

The fact that you have perfectly normal and average people caught up in this imo proves my point that it is a minor offence. Our court systems priority is rehabilitation, is that what we are achieving here, do you feel this person is going to be rehabilitated? Or are we pushing this persons in the opposite direction?

Lets look at these things a bit realistically.

Maybe the fact that I was far from perfect when younger like the rest of you obviously are I have a different view of the situation, I don't know...I actually find the show of "public disobedience" and mob mentality entertaining....of course its wrong...but on the other hand it shows people are still people and can turn on authority in the most primitive way, I see that as a good thing as it is a integral part of democracy that "helps" keep authority in check.

And before anyone jumps on me again, of course the riot was wrong, of course there was no good reason for it, I am not disputing that, I am looking at the BIGGER picture and how this fits in to it.

That's my opinion and I am sticking to it..either way its all in good fun.

Haha, that lawyer bit really got me... :haha:

No sympathy to there people from here either. Those idiots need to be teached what are the consequences of one's own intentional actions. There should also be no reduction in jail time justbecause people were drunk. That's just the most stupid defence for anything. :hell:

With the same breath I would say that this f***ed up case got out of it almost free... It's scary to know that there are people like that among us.

The city lacks people of action, if people stood up to the minority causing the problems in the beginning there wouldn't of been a riot. Not everyone is capable of confronting others, and that's fine. Then those people should've gone home and not provided an audience to the hooligans and would've allowed the police to intervene easier.
I'm sure someone will say well at least some bystanders provided video which helped capture the hooligans... that's a point but we'd still have been better off if the riot was never allowed to get to that stage.

Sorry but Rag Gu comes across as a whiney douchebag. As Baretta said, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Is it my imagination, or are 98% of these riot convicts from outside the CoV?

I wonder if the police reaction would be different if we were to see this happen again soon.

I'd rather be listening to the BCCLA crying about police abuse than have this expensive ongoing circus.

I can't think of a country in the world where people would be allowed to behave that way for that long without real police intervention.

People need to be accountable for their actions, mob or not. Simply inexcusable. I enjoy my beverages but don't fight, burn things down, hit innocent people or break into things. During the Oilers run to the cup I was on Whyte and enjoyed the festivities immensely without needing to smash shop windows, break mirrors off of cars or start fires.

If anything he should accept his sentence and work double hard to show that IT WAS only a momentary lack of judgement and not a true reflection of his character. For me, THAT would be convincing enough that he is worth a look at medical school entrance etc.

breaking rules is perfect for a creative profession, but i'm not sure if it looks good otherwise...he was a mindless young ass who should be forgiven

Owning up for something and serving your penalty shows much more character.

Wasn't there a small riot when the Oilers won game 5 against the Ducks to advance to the Stanley Cup Finals?

That said, nothing to the scale of Vancouver's riot, and they didn't riot when they lost the Cup.

Some poor guy lost his truck because of this d*****bag.

^there was a lot of asshead douchebaggery during the run... relatively small group but there was. Charges were laid.

I really disagree here. People who had the courage to stand up to the mobs got punished with violence. It is not a citizens job to fight off a mob, it is the Police's, which they failed miserably at.

Some friends of mine were caught up in some of the destruction, but far from intentionally. They were trying to get out of downtown, but the Police were trapping them in to certain areas, and they couldn't with ease. They ended being in an area that was pepper sprayed with no warning before being able to escape the madness.

So it's all well and good to blame people for being bystanders, but there's quite a lot more to it. The people to blame are the people who committed riot-related crimes, and especially the Police.

that was funny, but his mindset is open. we shouldnt be closed to tings like this, perhaps this has a good end to it, it shows that people in vancouver are ready for war, say stand in defense of canada when there is an invasion from the most "powerful country in the universe". this shit shows that canadians are not a bunch of smiling friendly people who r afraid to fight. i think he was one of the greatest leaders if not a symbolic hero to show case the will and power of canadians who were willingly to use violence against a potential invader. didn't this man and others showcased some power and will in vancouver...let's give the riot an applause for that sake.

Most of the people that stood up to the mob did not get punished with violence they were instead greeted to cheers by their fellow citizens most of which were to scared to get involved themselves. I did my part and the the only punishment was the to the idiots breaking windows. I agree it's not citizens jobs to fight off a mob, it's also not their job to start a riot. If they aren't a part of the riot they should leave and allow the police to move in. The police were somewhat limited in their ability to act because of the crowd of citizens not rioting but loitering. Police weren't going to fire tear gas into a crowd of mostly innocents to disperse some rioters, they also were unable to push past thousands to get to the several dozen causing the issues.

I agree on most points. However, I do not agree that a few brave citizens could have stopped the riot. Some people were set on a riot taking place, and that is for the Police to be prepared for, and sort out.