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I suppose most of their work would fall into the unacceptable category, but Torti Gallas is worth looking at. Most of their work is not strictly historicist, but rather combines contemporary materials with traditional design concepts. They produce buildings like this one that are distinctly contemporary, but not modernist. They know how to use the right materials and proportions, so unlike what some may call "faux", their stuff usually looks great.
Moving on to some examples of things that do qualify from Washington, DC: The Kennedy-Warren apartment building is one of Washington's most important art-deco buildings. It was originally built about 1930. In about 2002 the owners decided to expand it. The expansion has a contemporary interior layout, but matches the original exterior exactly. Aside from the difference in weathering, you cannot tell the 21st Century portion from the 1930 portion: Main entrance: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...g_-_facade.jpg source Detailing from 1930: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1371/...6db687e3_b.jpg source Detailing from 2002: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1375/...efe13a4f_b.jpg source Another potential example that comes to mind is the National Cathedral. It took over 80 years to build, but was not completed until 1990. Many of the details were designed and constructed in the 1980s. http://beyonddc.com/features/god/nat.../b100_5020.jpg |
Sainte Lutgarde District Lasne, Belgium Built 2000 https://architectesdoyen.be/portfoli...inte-lutgarde/ https://i.imgur.com/vkpScnm.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/5JlXEaD.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/vBUghl3.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/qCv1HUE.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/YLSro6d.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/qJOhUZJ.jpeg |
A few recently completed structures.
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What makes this one unacceptable? It looks like a well-done traditional Greco-Roman style building to me... :shrug: |
Bacova Lasne, Belgium https://architectesdoyen.be/portfolio-item/bacova/ https://i.imgur.com/rq53dHb.jpeg |
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It's a pretty well-carried-out building, and certainly is built in "traditional style". It's just not strictly historicist, which is what OP is asking for.
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Froidmont Rixensart, Belgium Built 2002 https://architectesdoyen.be/portfolio-item/froidmont/ https://i.imgur.com/s2ZLwbz.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/5tJklEE.jpeg |
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Aldo Leopold Legacy Center
Baraboo, Wisconsin Kubala-Washatko Architects The first realized LEED-Platinum project, the Aldo Leopold Legacy Center looked towards traditional methods of contruction and craft in order to create a carbon negative building. While equipped with state of the art solar panels and geothermal heating systems, the building made use of traditional wood frame construction techniques in order to create a simple and efficient building system that maximized use of natural light access and ventilation to minimize the need for energy expensive heating and cooling systems. Lumber was retreived from the site and prepared for construction in an specialized on site shop facility built for the project which removed dependence on industrial lumber and more energy use. Because of its adaptive use of traditional fabrication and construction techniques as well as adoption and integration of modern technologies, the building is entirely seperate from the grid. The materials used were prepared almost entirely seperate from any architectural material industries, and the building generates its own electricity; a gesture towards the conservationism and simplicity preached by Aldo Leopold, the conservationist the project is named for. http://www.architecture.uwaterloo.ca...t-vent-sun.jpg architect.uwaterloo.ca http://www.treehugger.com/AIA-cote-a...acy-center.jpg treehugger.com http://www.bustler.net/images/upload...acy-Center.jpg bustler.net http://www.aldoleopold.org/images/Bi...ight%20018.jpg aldoleopold.org http://landscapemodelling.net/jpg/Leopold2.jpg landscapemodelling.net http://www.architectmagazine.com/Ima...m20-187332.jpg architectmagazine.com |
Marius Meuree Marcinelle, Belgium Built 2000 https://architectesdoyen.be/portfoli...marius-meuree/ https://i.imgur.com/WBMSYx5.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/mkzl6vB.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/L7enrAb.jpeg |
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That is a building which very successfully looks to traditional building design, construction methods and material use to make an exemplary finished product in terms of spacial coordination, aesthetic, and energy use. |
The best replica building I've seen is the Globe Theatre, simply because it works brilliantly as a building, and does not have to compromise with function in order to achieve historical accuracy. For example, the audience is pulled close to the stage, and you can see fellow members of the audience as you are watching the play, making the audience a much more active participant.
http://edsphotoblog.com/wp-content/p...tre_london.jpg http://edsphotoblog.com/wp-content/p...tre_london.jpg Ed O'Keeffe, Ed O'Keeffe Photography http://srv-londonimages-2.londontown...49_429long.jpg http://srv-londonimages-2.londontown...49_429long.jpg Londontown.com I doubt if this is what Hed Kandi had in mind, but David Chipperfield's buildings also work within the spirit of the traditions that exist within a locality, without slavishly reproducing details, or compromising on the effectiveness of the building to achieve its aims. I guess it's like CGII's example in that respect. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eum-Henley.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eum-Henley.jpg Henley Rowing Museum, Wikipedia, Rowland Shaw |
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Schermerhorn Symphony Center - Completed: 2006 http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/406...5dd80fao98.jpg RussSwift @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/thisisruss/3334760916/ http://www.dmsas.com/Our_Portfolio/Project.aspx?listing=type&itemId=1&pId=4 |
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For example, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3289/...8fe8df8dde.jpg flickr Oh no! It has glass windows, it can't possibly be traditional! How does that make any sense at all? Also, La Sagrada Familia is most definitely not a traditional style at all. Gaudi was and is known for being explicitly non-traditional and individual. In his time Gaudi was bending the minds of the traditional establishment and his designs continue to do so today. There was almost no precedence for his style so I don't see how something that was in no way based off of the past could be traditional. I think the only thing that you are defining is how ornate the design is. The only thing that ties together La Sagrada Familia and the other buildings you posted is the fact that it is a very ornate and detailed design. Now what would you say about a design like this: http://blog.aia.org/mt-static/plugin..._x_600.jpg.jpg aia.org or this: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_n1eYQ4GqH3U/Rt...hicago+074.JPG ggpht.com Would you call these traditional? |
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I think we now have the AdrianXSands of classicism, Hed Kandi. :rolleyes:
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Hotel Ostrovskogo Square - St. Petersburg, Russia
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But that building has aluminium framed glass windows? Why aren't you put off by that? Those things are super ugly even on modern buildings.
Seriously, how can you find this acceptable and the ornate metal frames on the glass on the other building hideous? http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/48919.jpg archi.ru AND that glass is heavily glazed... |
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Not everybody knew how to build (or had access to) stone. |
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^^^ He doesn't have a definition for the word traditional. He just thinks its a good word to describe buildings he likes. What he really seems to like is buildings that look like they are from video games, then again he appears to have given up explaining any of his thoughts to us, so how are we to know for sure...
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Temple of the Vedic Planetarium - Mayapur, India (Planned)
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Bai Dinh Temple Spiritual and Cultural Complex - Ninh Binh, Vietnam
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^Methinks you're going to find architecture school a tad frustrating...
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This looks like the planet Naboo from Star Wars.
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Seriously, I cant stress this anymore than this, go visit architecture departments...figure out which colleges that are close to use and visit them. Use naab.org to get an understanding of what is offered. And the most important thing is to have an open mind when it comes to learning architecture. You wouldnt go to Med School and tell the teacher you know how to medically treat patients, and you wouldnt go to an architecture school and tell your teacher you know how to design architecture. Being a fan of styles and knowing how to practice it are two different things. |
'New Development' - Nesvizh, Belarussia
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^Good to see that Russian neo-neo-classicists are also terrible at scale.
Robertson Partners and Francis Johnson & Partners are the two neoclassical firms that come to mind. |
The execution of that Mansard roof is nothing less than offensive. Seriously, how can you have that in a thread about traditionalism? Not only does it not adhere to very set principles about proportion and application of ornament, it is also of strikingly poor craft and modern construction.
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15 CPW looks pre-war, but the windows are maybe a little big.
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The ne plus ultra in new buildings in traditional style:
Poundbury: http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3799 via wirednewyork and ablarc. |
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As mentioned above, I would definitely toss 15 Central Park West in there as a good one.
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Pretty much anything by Robertson Partners. The only thing that really gives away their age are the windows, which look like vinyl or white metal.
These two: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=47256 and http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=47255 were designed by them. And just a little heads up: their website is really low-budget. |
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125 Joralemon is a reference to the carriage house vernacular style that predates the brownstones of the surrounding neighbourhood. It's aesthetics, arrangement and construction are all held to 'traditional' standards. http://www.josephsstella.com/125-Joralemon-St-ext-3.jpg josephstella.com http://www.josephsstella.com/2008-6-5%201.jpg josephsstella.com http://www.josephsstella.com/2008-6-5%203.jpg josephstella.com http://www.josephsstella.com/1992%20Rendering.jpg josephstella.com |
I read something recently that ripped that Joralemon house to shreds. I wish I cuuld remember what is was, because I didn't agree with it at all. I think this house looks great. What is there to complain about?
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125 Joralemon shouldn't be knocked. So cute, I could take it home with me. Nice neighborhood, too. |
Church of All Saints - Minsk, Belarus
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Carhart Mansion, New York City, 2006
John Simpson Architects http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/...e89f2f23_o.jpg heyheyamy It went from this, to that: http://www.period-homes.com/Previous...s/ProjectB.jpg http://www.period-homes.com/Previous...s/ProjectC.jpg http://www.period-homes.com/Previous...06carhart.html |
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You are getting few responses because you have set an impossibly high standard that even you cannot meet consistently. If you are a little easier going with what you ask for, you will get more and friendlier responses. |
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It overhangs way too far beyond the wall facade, the angles of both slopes are wrong, rather than being punched-in holes the windows should jut out as part of dormers, the color is OK but where is the trim, and that railing is such an obviously and lazy attempt to screen rooftop mechanical that it's just insulting.
It's like they took something from a 1970s strip mall and put it on top of a palace. It's just completely wrong stylistically and proportionally. |
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