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Da Warrior Nov 4, 2008 11:07 PM

New Mohawk College Campus: Recreation, Health and Wellness Centre
 
Here's some info on Mohawk's new Recreation, Health and Wellness Centre.
http://www.mohawkcollege.ca/referendum/

Not sure where they are planning on putting it as there isn't to much space left at the fennell campus, maybe across the street on fennell?? If anyone has any more info please share, as this is a must needed addition for Mohawk College.

SteelTown Nov 4, 2008 11:11 PM

Where would the New Campus Recreation, Health and Wellness Centre be located?

The building will be constructed directly behind the existing gymnasium complex, allowing for the existing facility and nearby classrooms to be updated and incorporated into the new Centre.


Why was the proposed site selected?

The building will be built on the site adjacent to the existing gymnasium. It was determined that this site will provide ready access to on-campus students, and commuting students.

SteelTown Nov 4, 2008 11:15 PM

Basically right next to the front entrance of Mohawk College, main bus stop (really the back entrance). Next to the Continuing Education Centre and the Day Care Centre. Right now it's a strip of land used for flag poles and a few benches.

Perhaps this might tie in with renovating the J Wing.

Construction is estimated to begin in Fall of 2009 and the new facility is expected to open in Fall of 2011

go_leafs_go02 Nov 4, 2008 11:28 PM

Haha. Estimated to start. And it is up to the students to decide whether or not they want it.

66% of the school must vote in favour for it to be built. At the expense of
$75 more per semester..for a gym I won't even get to use, because I'll be graduated by then.

I'm working on getting a bus pass for the school, for $94.80 with the HSR over 8 months. You'll get to pay for the pass, and use it right away. I'd rather see that happen.

I'm still on the fence, but from what I see, the majority of people aren't going to pay for a gym they aren't going to use, so it will likely fail. They say that you'll get free access to the gym when it's open for as many semesters as you funded it, but for pete's sakes...I'm not going to go there ever. I'm going to have a real tough time to vote yes, from a personal standpoint. However, knowing Mohawk College needs some help and upgrades, that might push me to make the campus better for the future.

raisethehammer Nov 4, 2008 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_leafs_go02 (Post 3891531)
Haha. Estimated to start. And it is up to the students to decide whether or not they want it.

66% of the school must vote in favour for it to be built. At the expense of
$75 more per semester..for a gym I won't even get to use, because I'll be graduated by then.

I'm working on getting a bus pass for the school, for $94.80 with the HSR over 8 months. You'll get to pay for the pass, and use it right away. I'd rather see that happen.

I'm still on the fence, but from what I see, the majority of people aren't going to pay for a gym they aren't going to use, so it will likely fail. They say that you'll get free access to the gym when it's open for as many semesters as you funded it, but for pete's sakes...I'm not going to go there ever. I'm going to have a real tough time to vote yes, from a personal standpoint. However, knowing Mohawk College needs some help and upgrades, that might push me to make the campus better for the future.

perhaps you could think of the thousands of future students who will come through the school instead of just yourself.
Novel idea in today's society, I know.

SteelTown Nov 4, 2008 11:57 PM

^^ Once you become an Alumnus you will be provided with discounted membership fees.

I tried to get students to support bus pass in 2004, I think, and it failed. Too many students that drive to Mohawk and don't care for transit. If there where a referendum on raising the parking rates you'll probably see a voting record haha

go_leafs_go02 Nov 4, 2008 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raisethehammer (Post 3891545)
perhaps you could think of the thousands of future students who will come through the school instead of just yourself.
Novel idea in today's society, I know.

congratulations for reading the whole post.

go_leafs_go02 Nov 5, 2008 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelTown (Post 3891551)
^^ Once you become an Alumnus you will be provided with discounted membership fees.

I tried to get students to support bus pass in 2004, I think, and it failed. Too many students that drive to Mohawk and don't care for transit. If there where a referendum on raising the parking rates you'll probably see a voting record haha

Well, we actually got a facebook group 700 strong right now. Have a future article in the Satellite likely next week, and working on getting the word out.

We'll see what happens. You can admit that we are more environmentally conscientious and with gas prices much higher than then (although..the last few weeks have been pretty good..84 cents today) We'll see.

Mohawk has this GoGreen thing they're trying to push through. I find it pretty ignorant if they keep rejecting a pass that the HSR offers them (under the same deal as what MacMaster has)

Hammer Town Nov 5, 2008 2:09 PM

Go leafs Go
I agree we should have a transit pass for us. Anyway I would like to join your facebook group. Also what program are you in?

realcity Nov 5, 2008 3:16 PM

Seriously tho... Mohawk has some serious problems.

Fennel (Main) campus is horrible, you'd never know that there's a college behind the berms and pine trees. Only in Hamilton, does it suck to be living near a College.

The surrounding roads make it an isolated pod having no benefit to the surrounding neighbourhood.

There's not enough residences, (because the neighbours complain -- again Only in Hamilton) so it lacks any kind of collegiate/campus experience.

The campus is a parking lot and useless fields.

There's no main entrance that looks like a main entrance.

They use a tacky mobile sign with neon letters. Actually I'm calling the by-law office about that sign, it should only be there for 3 months, once every 12 months.

The inside looks like an elementary school. Coloured lockers??? sheesh

The reputation is pathetic.

The Alumni House? what's with that?

raisethehammer Nov 5, 2008 3:23 PM

realcity, what's with all the niagara falls photos in your image?? is THAT a 'real city' ?? Lol.

Hammer Town Nov 5, 2008 3:26 PM

Actually from what I know Mohawk has a pretty good reputation. The colored lockers are in one small part of the school. I think its a great college and I am enjoying my time there and I havne't herd anyone say they are not.

SteelTown Nov 5, 2008 3:42 PM

I think all the lockers are blue.

Lately the College has been renovating the interior a lot, the main floor.

It would be nice to upgrade the Student Centre, though I like the upgrades to the media room.

I would love to see bike lanes extended from West 5th from Mohawk to Fennell. Than have bike lanes along Fennell at least from West 5th to Garth.

flar Nov 5, 2008 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by realcity (Post 3892845)
Seriously tho... Mohawk has some serious problems.

Fennel (Main) campus is horrible, you'd never know that there's a college behind the berms and pine trees. Only in Hamilton, does it suck to be living near a College.

The surrounding roads make it an isolated pod having no benefit to the surrounding neighbourhood.

There's not enough residences, (because the neighbours complain -- again Only in Hamilton) so it lacks any kind of collegiate/campus experience.

The campus is a parking lot and useless fields.

There's no main entrance that looks like a main entrance.

They use a tacky mobile sign with neon letters. Actually I'm calling the by-law office about that sign, it should only be there for 3 months, once every 12 months.

The inside looks like an elementary school. Coloured lockers??? sheesh

The reputation is pathetic.

The Alumni House? what's with that?

Most Ontario colleges are located on suburban campuses much like Mohawk's.

realcity Nov 5, 2008 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raisethehammer (Post 3892862)
realcity, what's with all the niagara falls photos in your image?? is THAT a 'real city' ?? Lol.

haha, actually it does have a real downtown, the historic one, street retail, restaurants, government buildings, even tho it's mostly boarded up, there is an effort to revitalize it, and the new Convention Centre should help.

Given to the fact it's one of the world's most visited tourist destinations and reflects that, It has transit, small street grid, manufacturing, a downtown VIA station. Remember it's only a city of 50,000.

Plus it has some awesome scrapers and i do a lot work out there.

my avatar also shows London and Toronto

realcity Nov 5, 2008 4:24 PM

guys I don't mean to crap all over Mohawk. I'm probably ignoring a lot of the good things. I just get frustrated with it, and see the glass half empty when it comes to Mohawk.

Unless the college is in Toronto; George Brown, Humber, OCAD, Ryerson (the last two decided to become Universities, but started out as colleges).

I think the suburban Ontario college model sucks even more the US style of a huge college in a tiny town, creating so-called 'college towns', with the college being the principle employer, a little main street blvd, stadium, and side streets filled with Georgian picture book mansions.

go_leafs_go02 Nov 5, 2008 6:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Town (Post 3892757)
Go leafs Go
I agree we should have a transit pass for us. Anyway I would like to join your facebook group. Also what program are you in?

I'm in Transportation Engineering. just search "Mohawk Bus Pass" on Facebook and you'll find the group pretty darn easily.

:)

Hammer Town Nov 5, 2008 8:31 PM

I found the group and joined.

raisethehammer Nov 5, 2008 10:22 PM

I've got a newspaper insert called 'Perspective Hamilton 2009'.
It shows a new 3 storey building at Fennell and West 5th for St Joes (across from Mohawk).
Pretty decent looking building actually.
Also, they have some great renderings of HSR light rail vehicles.

raisethehammer Nov 6, 2008 4:14 PM

great news here:

http://www.thespec.com/News/article/462202

perhaps he'll push to bring a campus downtown.
Lord knows Mac ain't.

Brock announced today that they are moving their entire arts school into downtown St Catharines.
Sigh. Another school that cares about their city's urban core.

SteelTown Nov 19, 2008 12:11 PM

Mohawk students: play it forward?

November 19, 2008
Wade Hemsworth
The Hamilton Spectator

Mohawk College students are in the middle of making a big decision: should they dig into their own pockets for a new athletic centre that won't open until after most of them graduate?

Starting next September, students would have to pay an ancillary fee of $75 per semester toward the recreation, health and wellness centre that would replace a crowded gym that dates back to the 1970s.

The Mohawk Students' Association is putting the question to its 10,000 members in three days of online voting, ending tomorrow. The association is funding both the Yes and No sides of the campaign in the interest of having a full debate.

Student association president Alan Griffiths said the referendum rules prevent organizers of the campaigns from commenting on the centre's merits during voting.

The $15- million to $18-million facility at Fennell campus would open in September 2011 and include a fitness and weight room, therapy facilities, aerobics and spinning spaces, an indoor track and rock-climbing wall.

The project would be a joint venture between the Mohawk Students' Association, the Students' Athletics Committee and the college, with students paying to build it and the college paying to operate it.

Students now in two- and three-year programs would graduate before the facility opens, though they would get a year of free access for every year of contributions they made. The charge would be built into student fees for at least 15 years.

A No vote would freeze the project for at least 11 months until another referendum could be held.

Supporters believe Mohawk needs the facility to promote healthy living in the college community, and to keep up with other colleges. Similar student votes have given the green light to similar plans at other Ontario colleges, including Durham, Georgian, St. Clair and Niagara.

Opponents say students should not be on the hook for a new gym, especially when core learning facilities are in greater need of updating, and when the college has not raised private money to defer the cost, as McMaster University did when it built the David Braley Athletic Centre and Ron Joyce Stadium.

First-year music student Dan Weiss, 23, said he has no issue "paying it forward" to make improvements for future students, but felt that too many of his fellow students didn't realize they had a choice. He believes the college and its student government should put other priorities ahead of new rec facilities.

"I paid these guys my money for them to teach me, not to provide a nice recreation centre so I can go blow off some steam after class," he said. "If I really wanted all these extra facilities and I wasn't feeling satisfied by the facilities that the college already offers, then I could opt to pay somewhere else and feel better about the fact I'm not sticking 10,000 students with the bill."

go_leafs_go02 Nov 19, 2008 4:33 PM

The voting system messed up..and we have to revote against next week.

I'm guessing it was hackable.

SteelTown Nov 19, 2008 5:15 PM

Oh I should try voting. I still have my moco motion account.

HA! I can vote, but will have to wait next week. I graduated this year.

SteelTown Dec 10, 2008 12:09 PM

Students nix Mohawk fitness centre

December 10, 2008
The Hamilton Spectator
http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/479666

There will be no new fitness centre at Mohawk College -- at least not now.

Students have voted against committing $75 each per semester over the course of at least 15 years.

The money would have built a recreation, health and wellness centre on the main campus worth $15 million to $18 million. It would have replaced an existing facility that dates back to the 1970s.

Three days of manual voting in the referendum wrapped up Monday, with 59 per cent voting against the fee and 41 per cent in favour. Only 9 per cent of eligible students voted.

An attempt at an online vote last month had to be suspended after organizers learned of a glitch in the system that would have permitted each student to vote multiple times.

The Mohawk Students Association, which had supported the Yes side in the campaign, cannot repeat the referendum for one year.


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