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I can't imagine American being content with United and Star getting the new T2 while they stay in T3. If the new T2 could encompass the current image and Eagle's one concourse then maybe both Star and One World would use it for int'l flights while Delta, Skyteam and independent international carriers occupy T5. I don't know where that leaves the low cost guys. Just brainstorming... |
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But yea, a lot of the diagram does not make a ton of sense yet but I'm sure things are being kept purposefully vague since the city is negotiating. |
meanwhile, holy shit to charlotte's departure increase
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^ AmericaWest was absorbed into US Airways, which grew Charlotte into its largest hub. Then this all combined with American Airlines, for which Charlotte is its second-largest hub (after Dallas and ahead of O'Hare), being located extremely well for the southeast (comparable to Atlanta) and much better than AA's former east coast stronghold in Miami. Charlotte also had space to add a 3rd parallel, and far separated, runway, and is planning on adding a 4th, though adjacent, parallel runway, while Miami and others are space-constrained.
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Some big Trumpian chest-thumping from the former AA boss and new UA boss -
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Well AA does not have any problem filling up 777-300ER's in Chicago on certain international routes along with most of the other international carriers :)
By the way, UAL is still using 747's out of Chicago. Good for UAL on the growth plan.....We need to increase flights and seats at ORD and go after ATL. |
^ You know, the focus continues being on OHare reclaiming its throne, but is being the busiest really important? I think having the most connections should be the better prize.
Look at New York--none of its airports are the busiest in the world but between JFK, LaGuardia, and Newark you are pretty much connected to everything. Chicago needs to leverage O'Hare but also do all that it can to optimize Midway. Just my 2 cents |
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Why shouldn't they! Combined NYC airports have huge numbers, and they are not a main legacy hub. By the way, the 787/10 rollout is coming up. I hear Trump will be there. The aircraft looks like a 767-400!!! |
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United has a problem at ORD with their terminal layout for int'l or other wide body growth. There are only 7 gates that can handle the 77W, 772 and 788/9 in terminal 1. The interior gates between the B and C concourses cannot handle anything larger than a 767. The wingspans of the 788/9 are too wide. I can't imagine they'd simply wait for the Terminal 2 project/dream to be complete. That'll be 10+ years. So do they wait, majorly rework concourse C to squeeze in 2 or 3 wide body gates, or simply shift their 767 fleet there until retirement? |
United just added 24 daily flights to their schedule, including 6 new routes.
UA ORD-BTV JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 UA ORD-CHO JUN 0>0.7 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0 UA ORD-CMI JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 UA ORD-COU AUG 0>2.0 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2 UA ORD-DEN JUN 10>12 JUL 10>12 AUG 10>12 SEP 10>12 OCT 10>12 NOV 10>12 UA ORD-FLL JUL 1.8>3 AUG 1.9>3 UA ORD-GEG JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0 UA ORD-GRR JUL 5>6 UA ORD-GSP JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 UA ORD-MHT JUN 1.9>3 JUL 1.8>3 UA ORD-PWM JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 UA ORD-RNO JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 UA ORD-RST JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 UA ORD-RSW JUN 1.0>1.8 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2 UA ORD-SEA JUN 5>6 JUL 4>6 AUG 4>5 UA ORD-SJU JUN 1.0>1.1 JUL 1.0>1.1 UA ORD-TUL JUL 3>4 UA ORD-TUS JUN 0.2>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 UA ORD-YYZ MAY 6>7 |
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^ What does the notation mean? It's hard to decipher, some have decimals, a lot have zeroes, the number "8" can't be a day of the week, etc.
Are these going to be regional jets left over after upgauging other routes? Anyway, feeding more people into ORD will also boost mainline routes a little bit. |
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Each time we've been stuck on the ground or delayed at takeoff because of heavy traffic and a lack of gates. Last time we stood on the ground for an hour in Charleston because of traffic and gate troubles in Charlotte. I notice when I'm in there that people seem to be REALLY rushed and always racing around the airport. I think there are tight connections and the extreme traffic and lack of gates causes a lot of near misses or missed connections. That airport is huge though, far larger than what I had been expecting. I really hope they have some sort of plan in the mix to increase capacity, they're sorely lacking for what American is trying to push through. |
Hmm, if the 2016 prelim stats are correct, LAX would now be the 2nd busiest airport in the country now surpassing O'Hare.
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neither are anywhere close to ATL. |
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Many of them are indeed regional jets. |
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Atlanta on the other hand could in no way shape or form support all of the destinations they do if it wasn't for the crapton of connecting passengers that flow through it. But to your point, Atlanta may be easily the busiest in the world, but they still fall behind Chicago and many other US cities in international destinations/traffic. Atlanta is just exceptional at getting you from Daytona Beach to Wichita. Not so much at getting you from Atlanta to Hong Kong. |
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