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Just of those those things where land is so scarce, and they somewhat are going for the tower in the park concept with Phase II. I'm for parks, but I just think this one is a tad bit big. |
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In addition of the unseen work below the western yard, Related + Oxford probably will want to wait for the uber-luxury market to bounce back before committing to the mostly residential phase 2. Apparently sales at 35 and 15 HY have been abysmal. Like, really bad.
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^ Yeah, I would expect any sales there to be bad. It's bad across the board in the city as far as that goes.
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Battery Park City is what I compare the second phase to, in terms of it being largely residential, with some office. There will be no lowrise scale, unless you count the towers on lowrise bases. As you know, there will be a school located here as well. But there is a density that is required for Related, because of the open space mandate. They can't just build a lowrise neighborhood. The central portion of the yards wasn't supposed to have any buildings at all (where it looks like the Calatrava towers are), but they got around that. But I believe this is pretty much what you are going to see, these displays are permanent. And you can pretty much pick out the Gehry and Calatrava towers. Of course, actual renderings won't look as scrambled. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...03632DC69.jpeg https://media.architecturaldigest.co...344-185584.jpg https://www.architecturaldigest.com/...ds-nyc-opening |
If they are trying for condos in the 3-10 million range, good luck...but isn't the residential supposed to be rental? So this proposed lineup(more or less) will be what we see in the skyline here from the Jersey City side? These are really nice... how many in all, likely...8 would be written in stone?
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^ i dk if its written in stone, but its been that from early on with no known wavering.
and it kinda has to be what it is or similar for them to make their money back and the profit. that’s why i think once they finally get the ok from the transit authorities it will start immediately. that’s been the holdup all along. |
^ Yeah, the work on the platform would start whether or not the towers themselves would start.
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Did they ever give a figure of how many units will rise or projected within the 6.2 mil square feet?
I hope its in the range of 4000-4500. This is a prime opportunity for a ton of market-rate units. |
^ good question. are the number of apts in these buildings known? no doubt it is if not publically. it would be interesting to see that breakdown.
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If the breakdown was ever given I don’t recall. But there’s this overall...
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If we assume on average 750-1100 sqft per unit, where looking at a minimum of 3000-3200 units. Just minimum. Just for concept, spread over 4 mil-sqft.
A good sign is when a school is present. That's a crap ton of units if they need a school for it. I think we'll see closer to 3700 units (just my inclination) 4 mil-sqft is massive. I mean if this is your standard size unit found in newer developments, I wouldn't expect many 10k sqft units or penthouses, but a bulk being 750-1100/1200 sqft. Studios, 550-600 sqft. |
So Barclays Bank is supposedly moving its North American HQ to Hudson Yards. They're looking at proposed towers.
I wonder if the planned office tower in Related's Phase II is under consideration. |
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Could be, but that seems much further off than something like 3 Hudson, or even 2 Manhattan West. It could even be 50 Hudson or the Spiral, though for that much space you would think they would want to anchor the lower floors. That would reason to think it would be a tower without a major signed tenant yet. Hard to say these days. But it's welcome news for the city, that and Chase saying it's time to start returning the forces. |
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while i do not think we will get any renders for awhile i am looking forward to them. no doubt they will be quite handsome. the green and the people living there will really liven up the area from the cold and dystopian feel it has now. unfortunately, i don’t think anything is going to be resolved with the transit authorities to start the decking anytime soon.
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Hopefully the EIS final draft/submission timeline remains the same. Would be nice to get everything wrapped up for phase II by 2026, but IDK if thats optimistic.
Hopefully capping the yards doesn't take two years. Would be nice if its just one year. I have a feeling, realistically, 2028. If I had to bet. |
More fantasy rendering....
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That's honestly an awesome design, I would be fine with this :P
While I am not wishing for this to be delayed for an extended time, it would be interesting if it were ... and when built with an updated redesign in, say 2035, how the two schemes would differ, architecturally, technologically, and otherwise, because of the time that had elapsed in between them. I am reminded of the first phase of Rockefeller Center with 30 Rock and its surrounds, vs. the latter XYZ buildings on 6th Avenue (1211, 1221, 1251 Avenue of the Americas). What a difference a few decades makes. :rolleyes: |
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