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ethereal_reality Sep 20, 2013 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6271020)
While we're still in the San Pedro area, I decided to merge two photos of the harbor that I found in the above blog, and created the panorama below. The caption dates the scene to the 1890s.

Scroll right ---->

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...a.jpg~original
Original pictures at http://memoriastoica.tumblr.com



I believe this San Pedro view is from the 1890s as well HossC.
http://imageshack.us/a/img580/5996/3e31.jpg
ebay


I'm not sure what Bluffs the caption on the stereo-card is referring to.
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/1638/x6zv.jpg
ebay

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HossC Sep 20, 2013 9:20 PM

:previous:

This looks like a similar view. The description says "Photograph of Beacon Street in San Pedro looking north, Los Angeles, ca.1910."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aconStreet.jpg
USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Sep 20, 2013 10:37 PM

:previous: At first I thought the 'clock tower' building might be their city hall, but your photo clearly shows it's a bank.
p.s. -Now that I think of it, I believe San Pedro City Hall had a small dome. (I could be wrong...I need to recheck the thread)
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below: This was a fun discovery from earlier this afternoon.

'The iceman cometh' to 3130 Pasadena Avenue ---> pan right
http://imageshack.us/a/img18/4733/2ohh.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Vtg-191...item20d835446e

reverse/I believe this is considered Lincoln Heights
http://imageshack.us/a/img534/8315/kq50.jpg



99 years later! -look how those two palm trees have grown.
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/1779/kr57.jpg
gsv



side view from 32nd Street
http://imageshack.us/a/img42/6665/s2fi.jpg
gsv

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Those Who Squirm! Sep 20, 2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6274153)
today
http://imageshack.us/a/img89/1092/5ggd.jpg
gsv

Surprisingly, Ethical Drugs is still in business.

The term "ethical", in drug industry jargon is--or was--a synonym for "prescription", by contrast with "proprietary" or OTC drugs. I'm not sure how or when this usage came into being.

ethereal_reality Sep 21, 2013 1:35 AM

A highly scanned noirish view/found on ebay tonight. -notice the flood-lights. (there's the Broadway Hollywood sign in the distance at left)
http://imageshack.us/a/img560/8224/kv5n.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/A0241-Postca...item5d4436f5b9


:previous: There's the palm tree I thought was on fire. ;)

Sept. 13, 2013 -posted by Martin Pal
http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ka...55_600x338.jpgKABC7
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story
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Tetsu Sep 21, 2013 2:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6274542)
99 years later! -look how those two palm trees have grown.
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/1779/kr57.jpg
gsv
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It's always such a pleasant surprise when LA homes in vintage pictures are still standing today. Now that Bunker Hill is gone, seems like Lincoln Heights & Boyle Heights have the highest concentration of old Victorians & turn-of-the-century homes that still remain. E_R, did you take the 'google mobile' around the neighborhood of 3130 Pasadena? There were some amazing gems to be found just south of the house in your pics (and all over I'm sure). I took a photo safari in Lincoln/Boyle Heights not long ago. I'll try and upload some pics soon.

Tetsu Sep 21, 2013 2:33 AM

Mystery Victorian on Avenue 30 in Lincoln Heights
 
As soon as I started talking about riding around Lincoln Heights in the 'Google mobile,' I started doing it and found a Victorian gem I've never seen or heard of before. You'll find it on Avenue 30, looming above all of the other, smaller houses surrounding it:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...psa9b62493.jpgGSV

And here's a closer look:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps36f95341.jpg

It's at approximately 125 Avenue 30, just around the corner from the house at 3130 Pasadena Avenue that E_R posted about. Looks like the side of the house fronts onto Avenue 30. I'm guessing it originally had a Pasadena Avenue address, and the land around it was subdivided at some point. Anyone know anything about this house?

Otis Criblecoblis Sep 21, 2013 3:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6273792)
:previous:
If I remember correctly, there was a radio station (now called the 'penthouse') on the roof for 85 years.

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It was KGFJ, 1230 AM, which started broadcasting in 1927 and was by late 1927/early 1928 the first radio station in the US to broadcast 24 hours a day.

The call letters stood for "Keeping Good Folks Joyful."

I see the old antenna has been removed from the roof, but it was there not too terribly long ago.

Those Who Squirm! Sep 21, 2013 5:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 5724063)
I love that photo. Definitely a Civil War Vet. standing there.

This should be a familiar site to many who pass under the 405 heading west on Wilshire Blvd.

http://www.losangeles.va.gov/chapel/...apel_photo.jpg

The Old Soldiers Home Chapel was built around 1900. Great article about it here:

http://www.losangeles.va.gov/chapel/about.asp

It's interesting to see that the chapel was closed in 1971; I didn't think it
had been as long ago as that. From about 1990 - 1997 I lived near Brockton and Wilshire, and often used to ride the Santa Monica #2 bus to UCLA and back. The route goes through the VA grounds and right by the chapel. All through that period, the signboard outside the chapel announced the "upcoming" wedding of somebody named Shannon and somebody else whose name I have forgotten. It's astonishing to think that the same information was left up on the sign for 20+ years!

HossC Sep 21, 2013 9:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6274542)
below: This was a fun discovery from earlier this afternoon.

'The iceman cometh' to 3130 Pasadena Avenue

This was going to be my next post. I even had the same GSV pictures ready when Photobucket decided to close for maintenance last night. I guess this makes us even, E_R :).


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Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6267634)
Zooming in on the picture above I found some text on the hill in the background that says "Lot For Sale G H Peck".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...intFermin2.jpg

After I posted the picture of Beacon Street, San Pedro last night, I found another dated ca.1905. It shows that the "Peck and Anderson" building in E_R's picture (above) is actually the real estate offices of George H Peck.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...conStreet2.jpg
USC Digital Library

GaylordWilshire Sep 21, 2013 2:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 6274726)
As soon as I started talking about riding around Lincoln Heights in the 'Google mobile,' I started doing it and found a Victorian gem I've never seen or heard of before. You'll find it on Avenue 30, looming above all of the other, smaller houses surrounding it:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps36f95341.jpg

It's at approximately 125 Avenue 30, just around the corner from the house at 3130 Pasadena Avenue that E_R posted about. Looks like the side of the house fronts onto Avenue 30. I'm guessing it originally had a Pasadena Avenue address, and the land around it was subdivided at some point. Anyone know anything about this house?


It does looks like the house was at the center of a larger piece of property, set well back from Pasadena Ave. before Ave 30 was cut through. It's now 123 W Ave 30 in the "J W Robinson Tract" (aka Tract 2181). City records indicate 1893 as a build date. I suppose Robinson could be who once lived in the house--though on a cursory look I couldn't find anything to place a J W Robinson at a Pasadena Ave location--not the department-store man whose house we've seen here before, or any other J W Robinson. Anyway, in poking around this morning I did notice a Mrs. J E Betzhold across Ave 30 at #124...none other than the mother of telephone-operator-turned-Mrs. Edward Doheny. She lived in the little blue house in the picture below ca 1900.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S...2520AM.bmp.jpg

belmont bob Sep 21, 2013 4:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6274542)
:previous: At first I thought the 'clock tower' building might be their city hall, but your photo clearly shows it's a bank.
p.s. -Now that I think of it, I believe San Pedro City Hall had a small dome. (I could be wrong...I need to recheck the thread)
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below: This was a fun discovery from earlier this afternoon.

'The iceman cometh' to 3130 Pasadena Avenue ---> pan right
http://imageshack.us/a/img18/4733/2ohh.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Vtg-191...item20d835446e





99 years later! -look how those two palm trees have grown.
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/1779/kr57.jpg
gsv





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What strikes me about this house is how much more imposing it appears in the one-hundred year old photo. Or the perception of just being “bigger.” Maybe it’s the palm trees that now dominate the front yard along with the tree leaning over from next door. Or maybe it’s just because old B & W photos are so captivating. LOL

ethereal_reality Sep 21, 2013 10:52 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/1562/pzl0.jpg
ebay



I located a Harry Apple Chrysler dealership in the 1956 directory.

http://imageshack.us/a/img845/5161/8ugk.jpg
http://rescarta.lapl.org/ResCarta-We...le&submit=Find



-the view today/Harry Apple Chrysler has been replaced by a Goodwill Donation Center & Store.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/6636/iucy.jpg
gsv






There's a glimpse of red roof tiles on the far right hand side of the vintage photo.
I believe they belong to the small building on the left.
http://imageshack.us/a/img706/2230/uhzi.jpg
gsv
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ethereal_reality Sep 21, 2013 11:07 PM

San Pedro noir, circa 1930
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2883/yvm3.jpg
ebay
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Tetsu Sep 22, 2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6274930)
It does looks like the house was at the center of a larger piece of property, set well back from Pasadena Ave. before Ave 30 was cut through. It's now 123 W Ave 30 in the "J W Robinson Tract" (aka Tract 2181). City records indicate 1893 as a build date. I suppose Robinson could be who once lived in the house--though on a cursory look I couldn't find anything to place a J W Robinson at a Pasadena Ave location--not the department-store man whose house we've seen here before, or any other J W Robinson. Anyway, in poking around this morning I did notice a Mrs. J E Betzhold across Ave 30 at #124...none other than the mother of telephone-operator-turned-Mrs. Edward Doheny. She lived in the little blue house in the picture below ca 1900.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S...2520AM.bmp.jpg

Thanks for digging up the info, GaylordWilshire! I did notice how most of the house's neighbors look they were built not long after it. Really interesting to think that, based on the info you found, the house may have only sat alone for a few years before being surrounded with new development.

TangoJuliet Sep 22, 2013 1:51 AM

Just wanted to poke my head up and say hello and thanks to all the contributors in this amazing thread. I've spent the better part of a year going through all 800+ pages. It has been a revelation. Los Angeles is an amazing city and you guys have made learning more about it a most entertaining ride. :tup:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2381/eyyn.jpg
photo by me, taken while broken down on the 101 north at Vignes in 2004.

ethereal_reality Sep 22, 2013 2:06 AM

:previous: That's a great photograph TangoJuliet, very noirish!
It's especially cool that you took it while you were broken down along the freeway (my composure would have been shattered).
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1948 mystery model
http://imageshack.us/a/img513/837/wxcx.jpg
ebay

This could be a Joseph Jasgur photograph, but I have no proof.
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That said, where's the H?

CityBoyDoug Sep 22, 2013 4:51 PM

Falling down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6275353)
:previous: That's a great photograph TangoJuliet, very noirish!
It's especially cool that you took it while you were broken down along the freeway (my composure would have been shattered).
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That said, where's the H?

The original sign was made of old wood telephone poles and it eventually rotted. When this picture was taken we can see that the "H" had fallen down.

By 1972 it had again fallen into sad disrepair.

The new sign is made of steel and should last longer.

GaylordWilshire Sep 22, 2013 5:31 PM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAT
Dedication of the sign, 1923

Its history: http://www.hollywoodsign.org/the-his...-sign-is-born/

A post from 2010: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=1068

nickdahammer Sep 22, 2013 6:02 PM

Great stuff. That's my 'hood and I pass this house nearly every day. There are some other rather lovely homes just up Pas Ave going toward 5-Points (Daly/Avenue 26). And it is Avenue 32 but the way, not 32nd Street. We like to confound up in NELA with our street names.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6274542)
:previous: At first I thought the 'clock tower' building might be their city hall, but your photo clearly shows it's a bank.
p.s. -Now that I think of it, I believe San Pedro City Hall had a small dome. (I could be wrong...I need to recheck the thread)
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below: This was a fun discovery from earlier this afternoon.

'The iceman cometh' to 3130 Pasadena Avenue ---> pan right
http://imageshack.us/a/img18/4733/2ohh.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Vtg-191...item20d835446e

reverse/I believe this is considered Lincoln Heights
http://imageshack.us/a/img534/8315/kq50.jpg



99 years later! -look how those two palm trees have grown.
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/1779/kr57.jpg
gsv



side view from 32nd Street
http://imageshack.us/a/img42/6665/s2fi.jpg
gsv

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