Could give us a good idea of what the design will look like.
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i cant wait to see new york in 10-15 years
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It will be amazing follow the evolution of the city. |
That last rejected design is UGLY.
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Y'all is bananas. SHoP design is sick and SHoP is sick.
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take the spire away and I like it...
I thought that was a place holder btw? |
Would've been neat to have something that original apart of the skyline. That design is sort of 'old news' though . . .
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I'm with you. We would have been incredibly lucky to have seen that one rise. SHoP is a great firm. I'd put them alongside DS+R and Holl as my favorite NYC architects. |
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I'm looking forward to plans for the Nordstrom tower, and we are getting close to work starting on the site. |
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Holy. Hell. Lets hope the design is as impressive as the height. I can't even get my head around that height.
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at 1500 ft this tower will be a bit less imposing as depicted here
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8437/7...28d428e4_h.jpg pic by sbarn |
Hell yeah, if this breaks 500m (with spire and / or crown) NYC is definitely on the right way for a 2000 footer (-> GCT Tower). That's how this city builds its towers, I mean you just don't jump from 200m to 600m as some other cities do *cough*.
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I smell a spire to get over 1,500' from 88 stories.
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Holy hell is right. This is incredibly exciting news.
Since I'm relatively new to this, can someone explain the significance of the Architect of Record to me? In this case: AAI, P.C.: http://www.adamson-associates.com/# They're associated with the WTC and the MoMA tower among many other impressive projects, but does the fact that they're on the record mean that they will actually be designing the tower, or at least officially attached to the project in some way? Also, this is the site of the "AAI" that Curbed linked to, claiming that they would be doing the design: http://www.aaiarchitects.net Entrusting New York's newest tallest building to a firm without a single skyscraper in their portfolio has the potential for hilarity... but I was more than a little relieved to discover that wasn't the case. |
The architect of record is just the firm licensed in NY to file. Most famous architects that would design such a building aren't licensed to file plans here in the state. For example Lord Norman Foster does not maintain a NYS Archict's license (nor should he need to). So much like florists, most architects work with local firms (the architect of record). These guys just happen to be a very high profile local architect.
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The permit is a bit murky about how large the store will be, unless it counts as 'community facility'. Perhaps one of the residential blocks of space is mislabeled and should be retail.
Use Zoning Area (sq.ft.) District FAR RESIDENTIAL 350,822 C5-1 3.86 RESIDENTIAL 367,908 C5-3 4.05 RESIDENTIAL 139,205 C6-6 1.53 COMMUNITY FACILITY 63,326 C5-1 1.94 COMMUNITY FACILITY 19,030 C5-3 0.21 |
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I could see this one going for an even 1800ft with a large spire to beat 1WTC! If they add a spire equal in size to the one at 1WTC, the height of this building will be close to 2000ft. I can't wait until they unveil the design. |
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The low floor count is probably due to Nordstrom store taking about 300k sf of retail space in the lower section of the tower. |
Sounds fine by me. Bring it on!
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It's so exciting to see that NYC is finally set to steal the tallest roof height in the US back from Chicago. I'm still wrapping my head arround that fact and it just doesn't seem real yet. :notacrook: |
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Holy jeez!!
This is amazing news, a building the size of Shanghai World Financial Center next to central park is mind boggling to think about! It could even be higher! |
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Render! Render! Render! Com'on NY Times, you go get that render and bring it back to us. |
http://observer.com/2012/11/gary-bar...50-foot-tower/
Gary Barnett’s Biggest Blockbuster Yet: 225 West 57th Street, New York’s First 1,550-Foot Tower By Matt Chaban 6:00am Quote:
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Thread title needs to be changed to 1,550 FT and 88 floors btw. :cheers:
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it should be 1550+ since that's the height of the highest floor :)
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I don't think that the Hudson Yards has the luxury cache of 57th Street so any supertall residentials are unlikely. Possibly a mixed-use tower--like the Equinox Building--but both the HY and Midtown East are intended to be first & foremost commercial neighborhoods.
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And 57th Street may have taller towers than 225 W57. Remember that Barnett is assembling yet another tower site on 57th between 5th & 6th Ave. That site is even more valuable than 225 W57. There's also a major assemblage by developer Sheldon Solow, and a few other sites along 57th that could result in similar supertowers. |
Well, the Freedom Tower could at least have had the "tallest" overall title if the spire plan kicks in. Without it, it will just be in the pack. Meanwhile, Donald Trump must have had enough of this by now, if he can get back to what he does best. But as far as I'm concerned, Gary Barnet is top skyscraper builder in the city right now, even if other developers have more in the pipeline. He's never been afraid of height in his developments, even when it was frowned upon in some cases (UWS).
I just can't wait to see a rendering of this future king of NY. |
Wasn't there some talk of Herzog de Meuron designing this tower? I believe I saw a design for a skyscraper in Miami done by them that was less than inspiring; but my hopes remain very high.
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It also probably won't be a standard box, because that's not really what these architects do. They will probably be some sort of roof element, whether crown or whatever. |
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I was looking through some of the documents, and like the article stated, there will be an open air terrace/lounge on the "roof". Above that, 3 mechanical levels, which should be the crown. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/147569324/original.jpg http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JB...allbin=1080870 Units stack up as follows: Floors 15 - 20: 4 Floors 21 - 66: 3 Floors 69 - 83: 2 |
So it seems that if the terrace on 85 is open to the sky, then the three mechanical floors should be narrower (assuming the laws of physics as I understand them). Either that or a donut hole open to the sky.
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