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DCReid Mar 7, 2020 3:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8853814)

From the video and shots, seems like nothing is taller than 800 feet?

Zapatan Mar 7, 2020 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DCReid (Post 8853932)
From the video and shots, seems like nothing is taller than 800 feet?

Yea kinda lame, I think they are just placeholders though but it does give you an idea.

chris08876 Mar 7, 2020 3:48 PM

Yeah they are place holders. I believe Phase II will add as much or close to as much square footage in Phase I allocated between mixed used and residential. There is the park as well, which will cut down on the total building footprint, but hey... no complaints on my end, I think the elongated park is a nice touch.

We could in theory gain another super tall or two, so we'll see what happens once working designs get revealed. I don't expect it to eclipse Phase I with respect to magnitude, but it will still be quite dominant if they are going to cram that much sq-footage on the remaining yards.

TowerDude Mar 7, 2020 3:56 PM

That truck trailer parking lot on 34th south of Javits should be turned into a lawn for the High Line.

chris08876 Mar 7, 2020 4:07 PM

Its a shame Javits couldn't be relocated or maybe even modified to build a top of it. The foot print is quite massive, and that could of been like a mini Hudson Yards light

From 34th to 40th parallel to 11th/12th... huge opportunity and a ton of land in theory. With the renovation/expansion of Javits, its highly unlikely, but would of been a good prospect.

There's a Manhattan Mini Storage within the area that should be replaced as well IMO.

TowerDude Mar 7, 2020 4:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8853961)
Its a shame Javits couldn't be relocated or maybe even modified to build a top of it. The foot print is quite massive, and that could of been like a mini Hudson Yards light

From 34th to 40th parallel to 11th/12th... huge opportunity and a ton of land in theory. With the renovation/expansion of Javits, its highly unlikely, but would of been a good prospect.

There's a Manhattan Mini Storage within the area that should be replaced as well IMO.

Javits is the perfect height already for anything that close to the river. Skylines should taper towards the water.

NYguy Mar 7, 2020 4:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyHigher (Post 8853875)
I don't see much excitement just a group of shiny buildings thrown together. It desperately needed that Hudson Spire.

The Hudson Spire was never a part of the railyards plan, and wouldn't have been shown in that rendering.



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Originally Posted by DCReid (Post 8853932)
From the video and shots, seems like nothing is taller than 800 feet?

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 8853943)
Yea kinda lame, I think they are just placeholders though but it does give you an idea.


That's exactly what they are, and have been around for at least 5 years. If and when we see actual proposals for the sites, keep in mind that, just like the first phase, the designs will vary before anything is actually built. It's pretty much this...


https://a4.pbase.com/g9/06/102706/2/...6.dIlzoCKB.jpg
https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/busin...694acbc83.jpeg




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Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 8853955)
That truck trailer parking lot on 34th south of Javits should be turned into a lawn for the High Line.

The truck yards is currently in the process of being removed.
https://market.javitscenter.com/new-...javits-center/

The state will then bid that land out for redevelopment.

TowerDude Mar 7, 2020 7:17 PM

Yeah and they should be developed into a lawn.

NYguy Mar 8, 2020 4:49 PM

https://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/d...r/western-yard

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THE WESTERN YARD IS WHAT'S NEXT

Phase 2 of development at Hudson Yards is the Western Yard, occupying the area from 11th to 12th Avenues between West 30th and West 33rd Streets. Upon completion, the Western Yard will include approximately 6,220,000 square feet, incorporating several residential towers, an office complex and a school serving K-8th grade students.

OFFICE: 2,000,000 SF
RESIDENTIAL: 4,000,000 SF
RETAIL: 100,000 SF
SCHOOL: 120,000 SF





https://patch.com/new-york/midtown-n...d-phase-report

Swanky Hudson Yards Wants $1B In Federal Cash To Expand
The loan would fund the construction of a platform over the existing rail yard that would prop up more skyscraper developments.


By Brendan Krisel, Patch Staff
Feb 25, 2020

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Hudson Yards builders are applying for a federal loan to finance the second phase of the west side neighborhood's development, according to reports.

Related Companies is partnering with Amtrak for a $1 billion loan through the federal government's Railroad Rehabilitation and Improvement Financing program, Politico New York first reported. Amtrak's partnership is necessary for Related to acquire money through the program, which requires that a railroad be involved with any project that receives funding, according to the report.

Funds from the load would be used to create a massive platform above the remaining exposed section of the west side rail yards atop which Hudson Yards is being built, Politico reported. Amtrak benefits from the agreement because Related is committing to build a stretch of the agency's planned Gateway Tunnel that will run beneath Hudson yards. Under the terms of the deal, Amtrak would pay Related $385 million for the infrastructure work but get some of that money back if Related secures the low-interest federal loan, Politco reported.


NYguy Mar 10, 2020 8:12 PM

I try to imagine how any of this would have played out had Moses's expressway been built...


https://nyc-urbanism.tumblr.com/

https://66.media.tumblr.com/59e8fdfb...upho1_1280.jpg

Hudson11 Mar 10, 2020 10:51 PM

Screw Robert Moses. That is all :)

Visionist Mar 12, 2020 2:14 PM

Hands off my truck yard, lawn enthusiasts! :superwhip

That's where the Megatall is going!

NYguy Mar 12, 2020 4:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Visionist (Post 8859226)
Hands off my truck yard, lawn enthusiasts! :superwhip

That's where the Megatall is going!

Lol, there's enough open space in Hudson Yards anyway. When the state puts it up for bid, it won't be for a park. I think Related already has eyes on it, look at this older site plan...


https://a4.pbase.com/o9/06/102706/1/...teplan3.1b.JPG

PeterQM Mar 14, 2020 3:24 PM

https://ds4.cityrealty.com/img/5fbef...16f+1004++0+60
https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/marke...on-yards/16002

BXFrank Mar 14, 2020 6:50 PM

Wow those are very tall, hope we get more details soon. Loving it so far

JMKeynes Mar 14, 2020 8:05 PM

Are those current? They look great.

NYguy Mar 15, 2020 1:39 AM

Hard to judge on something like that. Here''s Ross talking about the second phase a few years ago...


Video Link





Video Link

mrnyc Mar 16, 2020 10:03 PM

people had a fit about the parking garage wall-off fiasco, and rightly so, but according to that render/model pic the west side highline is covered over by one or even two apt towers.

hmm.

i guess it would be fine if its as well done as the coach tower.

NYguy Mar 16, 2020 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 8864120)
people had a fit about the parking garage wall-off fiasco, and rightly so, but according to that render/model pic the west side highline is covered over by one or even two apt towers.

hmm.

i guess it would be fine if its as well done as the coach tower.


It's always been like that. But that's the way the High Line winds its way up Manhattan, so I doubt it would be too much of an issue.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOVNMMrWAAEGAZI.jpg




https://d3roppooboxrdw.cloudfront.ne...20160504143059
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAD



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...t_building.jpg
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAD

NYguy Apr 7, 2020 2:25 PM

Looks like a Gehry in the back (office tower) and 2 Calatrava towers in the middle, including the tallest. Still can't judge much on the designs from this depiction.


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-rHqH_JFK_/

https://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram...3f&oe=5EB772BA




https://d1embwjxo27ph2.cloudfront.ne...1_000_N914.jpg


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