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As far as Horton Plaza, my opinion is it should be a complete re-do and turn it inside out to have stores at street level. I don’t see how doing a minimal re-do would be economically viable and solve the problem of tenants fleeing. Part of the problem seems to be it’s so insular it doesn’t get enough foot traffic for the stores. |
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We all know that Horton Plaza needs to be bulldozed and a whole fresh approach taken. (Was never going to be Arena, arena site is behind PetCo not the HP site). No way 600k sq. feet of retail will work in one concentrated place downtown, the entire landscape of retail in US is changing. SD can't support a big mall downtown especially with UTC redone and won't Ball Park Village have retail?
My concern is BOSA just sitting on this land for a long period of time, will he partner with someone else on this since it will probably be a 2 Billion dollar project? This could be some thing like a mini MGM City Centre in Las Vegas so its going to be big money. Will Cisterra bring in a huge mega partner? How high will the City let this project go because it is Gaslamp adjacent? 300 feet, 500 feet? 7th/Market thank god, its about time and hopefully that other 22/24 floor hotel across the street also gets the Green Light. |
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Manchester Pacific Gateway status
Im new to this forum! I find it very interesting how many projects are proposed for SD! Anyways I was reading and Manchester Pacific Gateway will break ground by next month!
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...503-story.html |
Financing secured for Manchester's $1.5B project:
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...503-story.html |
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Yaaaaazzzzzzzz qwweeeen!
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Its confirmed it will be breaking ground on June 1st
http://www.sandiegometro.com/2018/05...rt-may-4-2018/ |
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Finally! Game Changer for SD, this spells the death knell for a "slight redo" of Horton Plaza because now you will have a retail component of Manchester Development, Upgrade Coming to Seaport, and we all forget Ball Park Village will have a decent retail component.
So the west side of DT and east side will have retail no need for a significant presence at the Horton Plaza spot. I'm so excited now!! 7th and Market getting going plus tons of towers and biggest project on the whole west Coast finally breaking ground :cheers: |
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Thanks for the photo, NPWiz. That looks like a nice piece of infill development!
I wonder if the plants shown on all of the balconies are supposed to be owned by individual residents, or if the development is contemplating a climbing ivy. By the way, here's an interesting piece of trivia: The historic house in the photo was moved to this site. It used to be on 11th and Broadway: https://photostore.sandiegohistory.o...10-91-18387-6/ |
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And welcome to the forum! :cheers: |
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Don’t know if anyone posted this before.
Downtown SD Population Grows 10% APRIL 16, 2018 | BY KELSI MAREE BORLAND Downtown San Diego has the fastest growing population in San Diego County, and it is fueling new development and land prices. Downtown San Diego has the biggest population growth in the greater San Diego market. According to research from JLL, the Downtown population has grown 10% since 2010 with a total of nearly 200,000 residents, while the population in Greater San Diego market has grown 7.9% during the same time. The same research shows that South County has the largest population in the market with nearly 800,000 residents. The South County has also seen significant population growth at a pace of 8.2% since 2010. |
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Can someone post an update on those navy buildings near the water downtown? Curious what the demolition progress has been.
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Overall skyline progress
https://i.imgur.com/MKHOxD5.jpg Stephen Varns aka SDDrumguy on Reddit Does kind of put in perspective the permanence of the current planning cycle. The Manchester project will fill up most of the 'gap' between the Pacific Gateway and the Hyatt at or above the level of the Embassy Suites, Pacific Hwy & Broadway will plug much of the gap in between PG and One America Plaza, Two America Plaza covers most of the other side. If the Marina district ever opens to development we might see some changes but the height restrictions means the skyline from the south is set to become largely filled. Quote:
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