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Oh my god those people are so dumb. Theyre saying they wouldn't use Central Park in the winter because a shadow from a skyscraper makes the park 20 degrees cooler? They do realize the shadow is only like 70 feet wide or so and you could just walk a little bit and not be in the shadow right? They act as if a tent is going to be put over Central Park and it will be shrouded in darkness for the rest of time. Why don't they propose to cut down all the trees since those cast shadows too?
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Photolith you can't reason with these people. Many of these residents, often yuppies, are bored of all their money, and so this is their job. TO protest ANYTHING. Thats what they do. They show up at these meetings when people tend to be working. They complain, ask stupid questions, look angry (photos of community meetings confirm this), and so on. What it is is selfishness. They want the city to themselves in their own image. They don't care about the community or the park, but their own selfish interests.
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^ Have you ever been to any community meetings? Vast majority of NIMBY's are not yuppies. They're usually middle age and elderly (and heavily female). Busybodies that have lots of spare time.
Younger people like yuppies are generally too busy with work and social life to attend the NIMBY powwows. They tend to be either supportive or at least indifferent to development. |
I attend them in the Jersey suburb where I live. Fine, instead of yuppie, let's say old people with money. And yes they do all tend to be elderly or at least middle aged. But that's my point, they have nothing better to do. ( I do so for research since I'm in the Environmental Industry but I don't make it an obsession).
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Definitely no deck here...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/01/ny...nues.html?_r=0 Up on the Roof: Top-Floor Attractions Help Maximize Revenues By CHARLES V. BAGLI MAY 31, 2015 http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/...superJumbo.jpg Adam Rose, the developer of 70 Pine Street, (without helmet), leads a tour of the condominium project, where four of the top floors will be open to the public for dining and drinking. http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/...superJumbo.jpg Felix Meinhof, 3, takes in a live image in the “sky portal,” on the opening day of One World Observatory near the top of One World Trade Center in Manhattan on Friday. Quote:
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Regarding Nordtstrom having one, considering the floorplate size a restaurant or observation deck would just be silly for the reasons he stated. It would take too much square footage away on everyfloor for those billionaires. Those things are better in large office buildings methinks. |
I always assumed this tower would never have a public obs deck...
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Besides the engineering involved, it would reduce the exclusivity of the tower. People who pay for this want the environment of being among the creme of the crop in the economic ladder. A site like this, with a deck, would be a tourist traffic jam. It would hurt sales, and like Barnett mentioned, reduce the unit site not to mention drive up costs.
But no worries, we have or will have: 1) ESB 2) Top of Rock 3) WTC1 4) 30 Hudson 5) 1 Vanderbilt 6) Statue of Liberty Podium (Can count as a form of an observation deck) 7) Staten Island Wheel I might be missing some, but for the moment, current and future decks. |
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/BS...de=ES025055572
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6b5081953e.jpg ^ Oh come on, just break the 1,500' mark ffs ... :angry: This feels even worse than 432 PA with its 1,397' ... |
The perimeter wall is only to the top of the last occupied floor I assume. That means the parapet could be above 1,500 feet.
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EDIT: the floor count is now 95, potentially good news. |
The way things are going, I won't be the least bit surprised if the curtain wall/parapet/"apparent roof" height ends up being the full 1550'. After all, The 1530' figure per NY Yimby is as he said, from last year; well before Steinway got the boost to 1428 (I think it was around 1397' at that point).
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It might be the actual roof since the floor count is now 95. Even if not 1,494' is still very tall.
I never expected this building to have an observation deck either so it's not really a big deal, especially since there are already so many in NYC. 1WTC, 30HY, ESB, Vanderbilt etc. might not be quite as high but still high enough for an amazing view. |
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So yes, 1494' + ~50' could bring us back to the old 1,550' figure. :yes: |
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I presume the entrance to the residential lobby will occupy one side of the building and that Nordstrom will require multiple street-level entrances. Further, I presume there will be substantial delivery docks (for both the residential tower and of course the giant department store) occupying an entire side of the base. The thought of adding a public lobby large enough for an observation deck queue makes my head hurt. That's too much going on at street level for a building with such a modest footprint. |
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For you geeks to get drunk on! More in link.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...ed1251a6f6.jpg Recently published via DOB: http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/BS...de=ES439710582 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...2e6823ccfd.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...9b35d222f7.jpg |
So the solid roof is 1494 an the parapet 1522? The Parapet got quite a bit shorter but that's still a great height :cheers:
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Nice find, VG. You're the man.:cheers:
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Great find VG, and nice to have you here! :cheers:
The document says 95 floors! 96-roof: 1493.67 ft / 455,27 m. Top/Parapet: 1521.83 ft / 463,85 m. Gentlemen, we have a new tallest in the U.S.! :cheers: |
Here! Here, lads! :cheers:
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Now time to wait for the height of the mast. Once that can be solved the answer can happen to be told for us. :).
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Filed today, lads.
This city esta en fuego! NYC Department of Buildings Application Details Premises: 217 WEST 57 STREET MANHATTAN Job No: 122421183 BIN: 1080870 Block: 1029 Lot: 19 Document: 01 OF 1 Job Type: A3 - ALTERATION TYPE 3 Document Overview Items Required Virtual Job Folder All Permits Fees Paid Forms Received All Comments Crane Information Plan Examination After Hours Variance Permits This job is not subject to the Department's Development Challenge Process. For any issues, please contact the relevant borough office. ----------------- * PROFESSIONALLY CERTIFIED * --------------------- Last Action: PERMIT ISSUED - ENTIRE JOB/WORK 06/09/2015 (R) Application approved on: 06/09/2015 Pre-Filed: 06/09/2015 Building Type: Other Estimated Total Cost: $0.00 Date Filed: 06/09/2015 Electronically Filed: Yes Fee Structure: STANDARD Review is requested under Building Code: 2014 Job Description Comments 1 Location Information (Filed At) House No(s): 217 Street Name: WEST 57 STREET Borough: Manhattan Block: 1029 Lot: 19 BIN: 1080870 CB No: 105 Work on Floor(s): OSP Apt/Condo No(s): Zip Code: 10019 2 Applicant of Record Information Name: PAUL A PERDEK Business Name: SAFWAY ATLANTIC LLC Business Phone: 201-636-5500 Business Address: 700 COMMERCIAL AVE CARLSTADT NJ 07072 Business Fax: 201-636-5542 E-Mail: PPERDEK@SAFWAYATLANTIC.COM Mobile Telephone: License Number: 086757 Applicant Type: P.E. R.A Sign Hanger R.L.A. Other Directive 14 Applicant Not Provided Previous Applicant of Record Not Applicable 3 Filing Representative Name: BE/JO/MI/VY/RAM ITW/MON/BOOD/LAN/SAM Business Name: A1 EXPEDITING SERVICE CORP Business Phone: 718-366-1820 Business Address: 959 FULTON STREET FARMINGDALE NY 11735 Business Fax: 718-366-1822 E-Mail: A1EXPEDITERS@AOL.COM Mobile Telephone: 917-440-8221 Registration Number: 2478 4 Filing Status Click Here to View 5 Job Types Alteration Type 1 or Alteration Type 1 required to meet New Building requirements (28-101.4.5) Alteration Type 1, OT "No Work" New Building Alteration Type 2 Full Demolition Alteration Type 3 Subdivision: Improved Sign Subdivision: Condo Directive 14 acceptance requested? Yes No 6 Work Types BL - Boiler FA - Fire Alarm FB - Fuel Burning FS - Fuel Storage FP - Fire Suppression MH - Mechanical PL - Plumbing SD - Standpipe SP - Sprinkler EQ - Construction Equipment CC - Curb Cut OT - Other 7 Plans/Construction Documents Submitted Plans Page Count: 0001 8 Additional Information Not Applicable 9 Additional Considerations, Limitations or Restrictions Yes No Yes No Alt. required to meet New Building req's (28-101.4.5) Alteration is a major change to exits Change in number of dwelling units Change in Occupancy / Use Change is inconsistent with current certificate of occupancy Change in number of stories Facade Alteration Infill Zoning Adult Establishment Loft Board Compensated Development (Inclusionary Housing) Quality Housing Low Income Housing (Inclusionary Housing) Site Safety Job / Project Single Room Occupancy (SRO) Multiple Dwelling Included in LMCCC Filing includes Lot Merger / Reapportionment Work Includes: Prefab wood I-joists Structural cold-formed steel Open-web steel joists Landmark Environmental Restrictions (Little E or RD) Unmapped/CCO Street Legalization Other, Specify: Filed to Comply with Local Law Restrictive Declaration / Easement Zoning Exhibit Record (I,II,III,etc) Filed to Address Violation(s) Work includes lighting fixture and/or controls, installation or replacement. [ECC §404 and §505] Work includes modular construction under New York State jurisdiction Work includes modular construction under New York City jurisdiction Structural peer review required per BC §1627 Peer Reviewer License No.(P.E.): Work includes permanent removal of standpipe, sprinkler or fire suppression related systems Work includes partial demolition as defined in AC §28-101.5, or the raising/moving of a building Structural Stability affected by proposed work BSA Calendar No.(s): CPC Calendar No.(s): 10 NYCECC Compliance New York City Energy Conservation Code (Applicant Statement) To the best of my knowledge, belief and professional judgment, this application is in compliance with the NYCECC. Energy analysis is on another job number: Yes No This application is, or is part of, a project that utilizes trade-offs among different major systems This application utilizes trade-offs within a single major system To the best of my knowledge, belief and professional judgment, all work under this application is exempt from the NYCECC in accordance with one of the following: 11 Job Description INSTALLATION OF 218 LINEAR FEET OF HEAVY DUTY SIDEWALK SHED DURING NEW BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, FILED SEPARATELY. SIDEWALK SHED SHALL COMPLY WITH CHAPTER #33 OF THE NYC BUILDING CODE. NO CHANGE IN USE, OCCUPANCY OR EGRESS UNDER THIS APPLICATION. Related BIS Job Numbers: Primary application Job Number: 12 Zoning Characteristics District(s): C5-3 - RESTRICTED CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT Overlay(s): Special District(s): MID - MIDTOWN Map No.: 8c Street legal width (ft.): Street status: Public Private Zoning lot includes the following tax lots: Not Provided 13 Building Characteristics Existing 2014/2008 Code Designations? Occupancy Classification: R-2 - RESIDENTIAL: APARTMENT HOUSES Yes No Construction Classification: I-B: 2 HOUR PROTECTED - NON-COMBUST Yes No Multiple Dwelling Classification: HAEA Building Height (ft.): 1550 Building Stories: 88 Dwelling Units: 233 Mixed use building? Yes No 14 Fill Not Applicable Off-Site On-Site Under 300 cubic yards 15 Construction Equipment Chute Sidewalk Shed Construction Material: WOOD AND STEEL Fence Size: 218 linear ft. BSA/MEA Approval No.: 351-74-SM Supported Scaffold Other 16 Curb Cut Description Not Applicable 17 Tax Lot Characteristics Not Provided 18 Fire Protection Equipment Not Applicable 19 Open Spaces 20 Site Characteristics Yes No Yes No Tidal Wetlands Freshwater Wetlands Coastal Erosion Hazard Area Urban Renewal Fire District Flood Hazard Area Flood Hazard Area Information: Yes No Substantial improvement? Substantially damaged? Floodshields part of proposed work? 21 Demolition Details Not Applicable 22 Asbestos Abatement Compliance The scope of work is exempt from the asbestos requirement as defined in the regulations promulgated by the NYC DEP (15 RCNY 1-23(b)) or is an alteration to a building constructed pursuant to plans submitted for approval on or after April 1,1987, in accordance with §28-106.1. 23 Signs Not Applicable 24 Comments 25 Applicant's Statements and Signatures ( See paper form or check Forms Received ) Yes No For New Building and Alteration 1 applications filed under the 2008 or 2014 NYC Building Code only: does this building qualify for high-rise designation? Directive 14 applications only: I certify that the construction documents submitted and all construction documents related to this application do not require a new or amended Certificate of Occupancy as there is no change in use, exits, or occupancy. 26 Owner's Information Name: SEAN PENDER Relationship to Owner: AGENT Business Name: SAFWAY ATLANTIC LLC Business Phone: 718-628-0500 Business Address: 700 COMMERCIAL AVENUE CARLSTADT NJ 07072 Business Fax: 201-636-5542 E-Mail: PERMITS@SAFWAYATLANTIC.COM Owner Type: PARTNERSHIP Non Profit: Yes No Yes No Owner's Certification Regarding Occupied Housing (Remain Occupied) Owner's Certification Regarding Occupied Housing (Rent Control / Stabilization) Owner DHCR Notification Owner's Certification for Adult Establishment Owner's Certification for Directive 14 (if applicable) |
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This will be exciting to watch. :cheers:
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The mast 2 reach 1,816 feet. 1 foot taller then CN Tower! I don't care if this building is silver, green, blue, black or periwinkle . I want the tallest in the western hemisphere title back to Manhattan.
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I'm actually looking forward to this tower more than any other under construction currently it's going to be really cool to see. :) I saw the news reports that they said it would be taller then 1776 feet but then the developer said they would keep it at 1775 feet out of respect for 1wtc but which is true?
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^ We don't know yet, will have to wait to find out.
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I think they should go for it! 1wtc won't be the tallest forever anyway, & NY always has had a friendly competition beginning with the Chrysler & ESB. Either way this is going to be a really cool tower. Maybe they should shoot for higher than the CN Tower ;)
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I really like the Nordstrom Tower it's going to be fun to compare it to 432 Park. It's roof height will be far taller than 1wtc's roof height. They might as well make the antenna higher than 1wtc's since it's really going to be way taller than 1wtc anyway by all measures that truly count (roof height). ;)
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Its good that NYC is churning out tons of supertalls. This is the roaring 20's all over again.
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Hopefully not followed by another great depression... |
If you want to talk about China or Canada or anywhere else this tower isn't being built, don't. If you want to discuss the Nordstrom tower, carry on as usual.
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