^ Though I think they were a little sloppy in placing the "West Bypass" label in that map; I believe it should be along only the north-south portion, while the entire east-west portion is referred to as the Elgin-O'Hare.
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the north and south legs of the bypass are going to be highways, correct? what will they be known as number-wise?
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Nobody knows. I doubt IDOT will seek interstate designation. They might shift IL 19 onto the new expressway (currently it runs along Irving Park).
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ORD modernization and A380 and 747-8 ready
The new runways at O'Hare are a great move forward. The proposed west roads described in the previous threads are great proposals too. But the terminals at O'Hare are in major need of being updated. Despite the terminal 5 "food court and shopping" facelift, it is crowded and behind the other int'l terminals in the US - it's only going to get worse with the recent new int'l additions to O'Hare. I thought there were plans for terminal 2 to be torn down for a new terminal to servce star alliance in addition to a new int'l terminal 4 for one world.
Also can ORD handle the A380 or 747-8 yet? I'm surprised for an airport that was once the busiest in the world and one of the most famous that there is yet to be A380 or 747-8 service. SFO, LAX, MIA, ATL, IAD, IAH and JFK all have it. |
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I said about a month ago that Emirates was going to start service to ORD in 2013. What prompted me to say that was the fact that they requested gate space starting in 2013. Well that doesn't look like it's going to happen now due to Terminal 5 being maxed out during the prime times. Emirates wasn't able to get a gate at a time they wanted. But hey, the reason for that is so many other airlines have announced new or expanded service.
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Another slight possibility revolves around the partnership talks currently going on between Emirates and American. Emirates could feed an American ORD-DXB flight in exchange for American feeding Emirates DFW, JFK, and LAX flights. That would save AA passengers from having to make two connections from a lot of airports to DXB. I'd say unlikely though. |
Hainan and Int'l Gate Space
Hainan Airlines officially announced ORD service starting in September with 4 flights per week departing at 3:30 pm. I wish them luck amidst 3 nonstops on 4 days a week between Chicago and Beijing. With American seemingly struggling on this route it seems suspect to launch. With all the new int'l carriers coming in this year, and the posted rumors above about Emirates not having favorable slot times, I'm surprised the city isn't looking at plans on increasing int'l gate space. What happened to the plan (forgot the name) that was announced about 12 years ago that included a new terminal 4 for One World and redoing Terminal 2 for Star? It is nice to see ORD's new runways but their terminal space is not keeping up compared to ATL, DTW, SFO or LAX for int'l travel demands.
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For example, if T5 is overflowing, why aren't more Star Alliance departures shifted to T1, where Lufthansa and ANA already enjoy check-in counters? I realize there may be capacity constraints at T1 too (then, just redistribute to T2) and LH and NH have close codeshare arrangements with UA, but still, it would make sense. After all, Lufthansa owns a fistful of other Star Alliance carriers, like Swiss International, so we are not talking about anything particularly more complex than what already exists. -------- Just to drop in an update on a recent topic, Qatar Airways is doing radio commercials about its ORD service beginning April 10, pitching their convenience to accessing Asia, Australia, and other exotic regions. |
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Here is the gate usage at Terminal 5 throughout the day this summer. Bear in mind that some gates only fit narrow body aircraft and some gates are blocked off or size restricted if a neighboring gate is occupied. However, there is still some available space available during peak times. All together it's 60 international destinations to 27 countries. http://i45.tinypic.com/33udi4w.jpg Down to only 2 passenger daily 747 flights. :( |
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But on the bright side, ORD seems to have more int'l carriers than ever. Emirates and Singapore Air are probably the most notable gaps. I know Singapore tried through AMS a while back that didn't succeed and I've read the rumors of Emirates flirting with launching ORD service. |
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Is terminal/gate construction (beyond just getting more/longer jetbridges) needed for the 747-8, or just the A380? What is the status of plans to do these construction projects? |
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The Airbus A350-1000 will be 74.3 meters in length while the 777-300ER is only 73.9 meters in length. |
^ The info I found had the A350-1000 length at 73.88m, smaller than the 777-300 -- but I'm assuming your source is better (airliners.net? boeing.com?).
However I am surprised that all UA 777s are 200s, with no 300s (I haven't paid attention to variant when I've flown on them, though I do keep tabs on the ongoing major interior rebuilds on the 777s) nor any on order. I also didn't realize they put in orders for the A350. These two things seem to suggest they had no plans to take deliveries of new jumbo jets for like over a half-decade or possibly even an entire decade. Maybe that is not surprising given the long recession and the spike in oil prices just before it. But why did they choose A350 instead of 777-300/ER for their 300 to 400 seat jumbo class? Wouldn't it be better to have maintenance commonalities with one giant 777 fleet? Was it the desire to keep 2 instead of just 1 main suppliers? Was it some technology that A350 has over the twenty-year-old 777, including fuel efficiency? Or was it just the physical configurations being offered? Also, were those A350 orders placed by CO, by pre-merger UA, or by post-merger UA? |
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I believe there was an article last year from a reputable source that said United (post-merger) was evaluating the 777-300ER (I'd presume the 2 new models as well) and 747-8. I hope they go for the 747-8 to replace the 744s but I don't think it's going to happen. Replacing the 744s with A350-900s as they say they will doesn't make much sense to me though, since the A350-900 has 100 less seats. |
Is this thread about the O'Hare physical expansion plans/programs, or about airline service and aircraft characteristics?????
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So yes, it is both expansion plans/programs and airline service to help fill the new expansion and drive future growth. |
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