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LUFTHANSA EXTENDS MUNICH – VANCOUVER TO YEAR-ROUND IN NW24
1 min NW24Star Alliance Written By Jim Liu Published at 0200GMT 29MAY24 Lufthansa in last week's schedule update extended Munich – Vancouver service, as this route will once again sees year-round operation, during Northern winter 2024/25 season. From 27OCT24 to 29MAR25, this route is served 3 times weekly, with Airbus A350-900XWB aircraft. Following schedule focuses on the period of 03NOV24 – 07MAR25. LH476 MUC1220 – 1350YVR 359 257 LH477 YVR1855 – 1345+1MUC 359 257 I didn't remember YVR-MUC being being year round before, I always remember it being summer seasonal? The article definitely implies it was before... "this route will once again sees year-round operation". It definitely is possible/likely, Jim is usually very good about things, but it's also insane how much route data he goes through to publish that site, and doing all of the comparisons is even more nuts. He always has previous years/seasons to compare to, that would take so much time to compile. His database must be insanely organized to do what he does, I'd love to score a copy of his vast data files LOL. Anyways, I digressed majorly. Whatever the case, good to see LH keep MUC year-round, it's a nice link to take out of the summer only pile. I noticed something, and just like above, I could be mistaken as I don't have records of past winter scheds. But when I was checking out MUC on the scheds, I started to check out how winter 2024/25 to Europe looked from airports like YVR, YEG, and YYC (YYZ and YUL are in a different league, not worth comparing as they are so vastly different). YYC - WS already announced maintaining daily flights to LHR and CDG from YYC, plus AC daily to LHR, 4Y daily to FRA, and KL daily to AMS. Pretty standard, the big boost being CDG to daily year round YVR - Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think AF used to be daily in winter before (year round)? My mind is kind of blurry with past comparisons, the Covid messed with my memory of some things pre-2020. I know the route started summer seasonal, and sub-daily, I just can't remember if it expanded to daily year round just before Covid? This article mentions the summer service increasing just this year? AIR FRANCE 3Q24 VANCOUVER AIRCRAFT CHANGES 1 min NS24Skyteam Written By Jim Liu Published at 0600GMT 08FEB24 Air France in the third quarter of 2024 plans additional capacity increase on Paris Charles de Gaulle – Vancouver route, as the Skyteam member schedules 369-seater Boeing 777-300ER aircraft on this route, from 02JUL24 to 16SEP24. AF previously planned to operate this service with 324-seater A350-900XWB during this period. Planned frequency increase from 5 to 7 weekly remains unchanged. Maybe it's just increasing compared to Covid-era schedules, maybe pre-2020 it was daily in summer, but I still don't think in winter.. The other funny thing about this is that AF and KL are obviously coordinating this closely. YVR-CDG is actually 5x weekly for a 6-week period between late Sep and most of Oct. But then AF goes back to daily, and KL goes from daily to 4x weekly. I remember KL dropping sub-daily in the winter, but I don't remember AF picking up the extra frequency, I thought they just both went sub-daily in winter? This apparent swap in importance surprised me, KLM and AMS have been huge not just for YVR, but also many Canadian cities esp. YEG and YYC. KL really provided some of the strongest links between western cities and Europe. Paris was nowhere to be found for years on western schedules, and airlines like BA never gave much to the region, esp. YYC/YEG. FRA was decent, but KL to AMS was really the strongest of the foreign tails. So seeing them appear to hand the dominant spot to AF is surprising (from YVR, that is). Even though they're essentially the same airline in many ways, it was always that some places were stronger KL and some stronger AF, and much of that has remained. KL will continue to be daily from YYC-AMS and 5x weekly from YEG-AMS over winter, so just YVR goes down and gets replaced by AF. I've heard KL is struggling with AMS and new restrictions to keep down # of flights. It's hard to believe airports actively trying to shoo away business lol, but that's just proof how huge airports like AMS and CDG are. Canadian airports will not be turning away business for a while I hope, unless there's some nut job policities somewhere here, but I sure hope not! Bring in the business, we are underserved!! Forget Madrid, Amsterdam and Venice, give us more lol! YYC 7x AC to LHR 7x WS to LHR 7x WS to CDG 7x KL to AMS 7x 4Y to FRA YVR 7x BA to LHR 7x AC to LHR 7x AF to CDG 7x LH to FRA 4x KL to AMS 4x FI to KEF 3x LH to MUC YEG 5x KL to AMS YVR and YYC very even on Europe, which has been normal for many years in winter. Just the airline makeup has shifted a bit. |
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OK that is what I thought, I knew frequency changed by season and by year, so this is nice to see them increase to daily in winter. I wonder if the KLM reduction (or maybe they have been under daily for years now in winter, I wish I tracked it) is due to new restrictions at AMS or just passing capacity to AF.
I actually now prefer AC's winter schedule from YVR than their summer one, international and transborder. For international, in the winter we lose FRA (but LH stays at daily), DUB (no replacement, 4x summer), and KIX (no replacement, 6x weekly summer). But we keep or gain: -NRT and ICN frequencies stay at daily -PVG 4x weekly stay -HKG 10x weekly stay -BKK 5x weekly added -DXB 4x weekly added -AKL 4x weekly added -SIN gain 1x more weekly for a total of 5x weekly (4x weekly in summer) -SYD gain 3x more weekly for a total of 10x weekly (7x weekly in summer) -BNE gain 1x more weekly for a total of daily (6x weekly in summer) Not to mention the increase in frequencies or equipment on many transborder and southern destinations (which I think most airports experience in winter), and I like the mix better. Of course domestic is way smaller in winter, but international is a funner variety (esp. to Asia Pacific, having 21x weekly flights to Australia/New Zealand is a nice number, plus 42x weekly to the rest of Asia). We still have AC steady on LHR, I would love more Euro service in winter but it's never been a strong market in the off season, especially when YYZ and YUL can fill most connections. |
PD start YYC-YUL today: https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...40529609874/en
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Stockyards at YKF now open at the Region of Waterloo International Airport (YKF) YKF Airport Information News Releases May 29, 2024 Quote:
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I remember last winter AC originally had just 1 more plane at YVR planned for the winter season. Then one extra plane was reallocated from TATL in late-Nov to increase HKG, then another one by Feb to increase BKK. Then by summer, 2 of the 3 planes were sent back to TATL and YVR kept one (for HKG/SIN after the loss of ZRH). The upcoming winter, YVR will begin the season with 3 extra widebodies. Maybe we'll get more if there's any late season adjustments like last year. Also, last year the 4x weekly PVG began with the pattern YYZ-YVR-PVG-YVR-YYZ. I believe at one point late season, AC gave up the YVR-YYZ part and just leave the plane at YVR doing nothing 3 days a week. Not sure this year if AC going to do the same pattern from YYZ, or they are going to find some other work from YVR the other 3 days if PVG cannot be increase to daily. |
KLM celebrating 75 years of service to Canada this week.
2 out of the 3 pilots operating that inaugural flight to YUL were Canadians. In fact, they had a good number of Canadian pilots back then. Interesting read. https://canadianaviationnews.ca/klm-...-for-75-years/ |
Here's an interesting table of YQB direct flights from 2005 to 2017 but I don't remember if it's from this forum that it was downloaded back then but anyway it brings back good memories from a time we had more flights to Europe.
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^ where is TS YQB-CDG? They’ve been serving that for the longest time no?
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April stats for Canada's busiest:
YYZ - N/A YVR - N/A YUL - 1,679,148 +6.2% YTD: +9.9% YYC - 1,383,573 -0.2% YTD: +4.9% YEG - 601,586 +1.3% YTD: +1.1% YOW - 352,789 +12.6% YTD: +13.6% YWG - N/A |
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Sector / 2019 TTL / 2023 TTL / 2024 TTL / % Chg vs 2023 / % Chg vs 2019 Domestic / 263,569 / 224,438 / 230,821 / +2.8% / (12.4%) Transborder / 40,059 / 23,165 / 24,797 / +7.0% / (38.1%) International / 46,140 / 49,226 / 54,615 / +10.9% / +18.4% Total April / 349,768 / 296,829 / 310,233 / +4.5% / (11.3%) YHZ YTD: Sector / 2019 TTL / 2023 TTL / 2024 TTL / % Chg vs 2023 / % Chg vs 2019 Domestic / 914,063 / 772,542 / 772,228 / (0.0%) / (15.5%) Transborder / 124,751 / 73,313 / 83,846 / +14.4% / (32.8%) International / 139,353 / 151,298 / 181,463 / +19.9% / +30.2% Total YTD / 1,178,167 / 997,153 / 1,037,537 / +4.0% / (11.9%) |
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As far as I can remember, here were the frequency for France at their peak in 2010 or so Corsair YQB-ORY 3X weekly 747 Corsair YQB-NTE 2X weekly A330 Air Transat YQB-CDG 5x weekly A330 A310 Air Transat YQB-BOD 1X weekly A310 Air Transat YQB-MRS 1X weekly A310 By comparison, here's the frequency for Europe in 2024 Air France YQB-CDG 3x weekly 777-300HD Air Transat YQB-CDG 4X weekly A321neo Air Transat YQB-LGW 1X weekly A321neo |
WestJet's YWG-YUL resumes today after a five(ish) year hiatus.
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Something interesting I noticed. Air Canada flying non-stop between Winnipeg and Regina today on an Airbus, flight AC2071, and it's currently advertised for sale on the AC app and showing up as flights in both YWG and YQR airport websites.
I wonder if this is a trial run for gradually re-introducing flights between Western Canadian cities? |
https://media.aircanada.com/2024-06-...twork-Strength
AC announces India expansion including non-stop BOM and new seasonal YYC-DEL (via LHR). |
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